Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are both jerks. He should have asked her politely to move her seat up a bit - it was hitting his knees. She could have taken the hint and moved her seat up a little to give him more room.

It's not that hard.

He never asked her to not recline her seat
Therefore he was in the wrong
You cannot always expect people to know what you are thinking, feeling. Language and polite language has been invented for a reason

He objected pretty much as soon as she did it though - it's not clear if he said something first and she ignored him or what happened. It's not like she was unaware that he was being bothered by it. She could have lifted the seat up a little as a compromise. They were both jerks.

But he didn't say anything
He was not authorized to start banging on her seat
He could have spoken politely about it instead

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.

YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.

She should buy a seat instead of have a lap baby (which she is entitled to have), so the guy can recline his seat without consideration (which he is entitled to do)?

What a hypocrite you are!

That is correct. That is what she should do.

His right does not Trump her right. Pretty revealing how the a**hole man wins in your scenario.

When you choose a lap baby, you know that you will be cramped and inconvenienced the entire flight. I have flown with and without babies, both lap and with their own seat.

So the reclining man’s comfort and convenience is more important than the woman’s comfort and convenience, when they are both doing what they are allowed to do?

Hypocrite.

Yes, because she made a choice that everyone knows will be cramped, because everyone knows that people will probably recline. It is really quite foolish to have a lap baby on an international flight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.

YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.

She should buy a seat instead of have a lap baby (which she is entitled to have), so the guy can recline his seat without consideration (which he is entitled to do)?

What a hypocrite you are!

That is correct. That is what she should do.

His right does not Trump her right. Pretty revealing how the a**hole man wins in your scenario.

When you choose a lap baby, you know that you will be cramped and inconvenienced the entire flight. I have flown with and without babies, both lap and with their own seat.

So the reclining man’s comfort and convenience is more important than the woman’s comfort and convenience, when they are both doing what they are allowed to do?

Hypocrite.

Yes, because she made a choice that everyone knows will be cramped, because everyone knows that people will probably recline. It is really quite foolish to have a lap baby on an international flight.

It is hysterical watching you turn yourself into knots trying to justify the unjustifiable. Man over mom every time, right, PP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We flew sometimes at government expense for overseas flights, and the military at least doesn't buy a seat for your child who is under two. I had a lap baby who needed to be breastfed and the person in front of me reclined their seat fully. There was LITERALLY nowhere for the baby to go. I remember at one point thinking that maybe I could hold her over my head. Design flaw? Or massively inconsiderate? You decide. This was before 911 and I spent most of the flight standing in the aisle with my baby so Mr. Entitled could have his little nap.

YOu should have purchased a seat for your child, as I have done many times on international flights.

She should buy a seat instead of have a lap baby (which she is entitled to have), so the guy can recline his seat without consideration (which he is entitled to do)?

What a hypocrite you are!

That is correct. That is what she should do.

His right does not Trump her right. Pretty revealing how the a**hole man wins in your scenario.

When you choose a lap baby, you know that you will be cramped and inconvenienced the entire flight. I have flown with and without babies, both lap and with their own seat.

So the reclining man’s comfort and convenience is more important than the woman’s comfort and convenience, when they are both doing what they are allowed to do?

Hypocrite.

Yes, because she made a choice that everyone knows will be cramped, because everyone knows that people will probably recline. It is really quite foolish to have a lap baby on an international flight.

It is hysterical watching you turn yourself into knots trying to justify the unjustifiable. Man over mom every time, right, PP?

This whole argument is largely irrelevant, because the original premise that a baby cannot breastfeed when a seat is reclined is incorrect. The baby would have to be the size of an adult man to not fit in between a breast and the seat in front of you - an entire TRAY with food on it can fit in between. The child would have to be the size of an adult man to not fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both jerks. He should have asked her politely to move her seat up a bit - it was hitting his knees. She could have taken the hint and moved her seat up a little to give him more room.

It's not that hard.

He never asked her to not recline her seat
Therefore he was in the wrong
You cannot always expect people to know what you are thinking, feeling. Language and polite language has been invented for a reason

He objected pretty much as soon as she did it though - it's not clear if he said something first and she ignored him or what happened. It's not like she was unaware that he was being bothered by it. She could have lifted the seat up a little as a compromise. They were both jerks.

But he didn't say anything
He was not authorized to start banging on her seat
He could have spoken politely about it instead

We didn't see what happened when she first reclined the seat. We DO see that she says nothing and ignores him completely when he starts tapping on her chair. Since we don't what happened when she actually reclined her seat, we don't know if he said something or not.

We do see that she says nothing to him, though. "Excuse me, sir. Your knocking on my seat, would you please stop?" Why? Because she knows that she has bothered him and is in a show down with him. She is as wrong, if not more wrong, than he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a kid was kicking the seat for the entire flight, the flight attendant would have said the kid was misbehaving and out of control. Why is an adult allowed to misbehave?

+1. And agree with a pp, he was kicking because there was an older woman sitting in the seat in front of him. He wouldn’t have kicked a 250 lb 6 ft+ man. It was assault and she is right to sue him and the airline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Team guy. Recliners are the same type of people who bring their "emotional support animals" or pets with them on airplanes.

Team guy. You’re the one who hogs the arm rests right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m short . I recline my seat for long flights. I do not think it is rude. People recline their seats, thaw the armrest (especially males). I blame the airlines. DCUM is not the etiquette guide.

The airline made me do it!



Pathetic.

I fully agree with the PP. The seats recline. If the airline isn't providing enough space to recline without infringing on the next passenger, they need to fix it and stop framing it as an etiquette problem. It's a design problem because they are cramming us in like sardines to maximize profits.

Everyone needs to seriously stop blaming the airlines. Just check out the income statement and balance sheet of almost any US airline. They are not raking in the money! Nobody wants to enter this crappy business. THe reality is that the business has expanded so much that now poor people are a huge part of the customer base. People don't want to pay more than $200 for a domestic plane ticket. And sorry, that doesn't pay the bills. The seats have been getting more cramped because of this. If you don't like it, fly business. When people start paying more money for bigger seats, the supply of seats on planes will shift to bigger seats. It's like saying why are their no flip phones anymore. Because nobody bought them! "It's an evil scheme!" lol

What does the CEO make? I blame the airlines

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Team guy. Recliners are the same type of people who bring their "emotional support animals" or pets with them on airplanes.

Team guy. You’re the one who hogs the arm rests right?

+10000

There are two types of people in the world.

1) People who are considerate of others, and understand that their actions impact others
2) People who only think of themselves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m short . I recline my seat for long flights. I do not think it is rude. People recline their seats, thaw the armrest (especially males). I blame the airlines. DCUM is not the etiquette guide.

The airline made me do it!



Pathetic.

I fully agree with the PP. The seats recline. If the airline isn't providing enough space to recline without infringing on the next passenger, they need to fix it and stop framing it as an etiquette problem. It's a design problem because they are cramming us in like sardines to maximize profits.

Everyone needs to seriously stop blaming the airlines. Just check out the income statement and balance sheet of almost any US airline. They are not raking in the money! Nobody wants to enter this crappy business. THe reality is that the business has expanded so much that now poor people are a huge part of the customer base. People don't want to pay more than $200 for a domestic plane ticket. And sorry, that doesn't pay the bills. The seats have been getting more cramped because of this. If you don't like it, fly business. When people start paying more money for bigger seats, the supply of seats on planes will shift to bigger seats. It's like saying why are their no flip phones anymore. Because nobody bought them! "It's an evil scheme!" lol

What does the CEO make? I blame the airlines

The CEO could make zero dollars and it would not change a single economic fact that is relevant to small seats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both jerks. He should have asked her politely to move her seat up a bit - it was hitting his knees. She could have taken the hint and moved her seat up a little to give him more room.

It's not that hard.

He never asked her to not recline her seat
Therefore he was in the wrong
You cannot always expect people to know what you are thinking, feeling. Language and polite language has been invented for a reason

He objected pretty much as soon as she did it though - it's not clear if he said something first and she ignored him or what happened. It's not like she was unaware that he was being bothered by it. She could have lifted the seat up a little as a compromise. They were both jerks.

But he didn't say anything
He was not authorized to start banging on her seat
He could have spoken politely about it instead

We didn't see what happened when she first reclined the seat. We DO see that she says nothing and ignores him completely when he starts tapping on her chair. Since we don't what happened when she actually reclined her seat, we don't know if he said something or not.

We do see that she says nothing to him, though. "Excuse me, sir. Your knocking on my seat, would you please stop?" Why? Because she knows that she has bothered him and is in a show down with him. She is as wrong, if not more wrong, than he is.

Violence is never right. Banging on chairs is not right
He could have spoken out instead of banging on her chair

In the video he is relentlessly banging on the chair that someone is sitting on.
End of story

Whether or not she should not hay reclined her seat is not relevant

[Anonymous]

what he did didn’t seem that bad to me. It was made out to be like he was physically shaking the seat back and forth with his hands. The recliner person seems like a jerk to me, as she has her seat FULLY reclined. I mean, who really does that? A little bit, yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are both jerks. He should have asked her politely to move her seat up a bit - it was hitting his knees. She could have taken the hint and moved her seat up a little to give him more room.

It's not that hard.

He never asked her to not recline her seat
Therefore he was in the wrong
You cannot always expect people to know what you are thinking, feeling. Language and polite language has been invented for a reason

He objected pretty much as soon as she did it though - it's not clear if he said something first and she ignored him or what happened. It's not like she was unaware that he was being bothered by it. She could have lifted the seat up a little as a compromise. They were both jerks.

But he didn't say anything
He was not authorized to start banging on her seat
He could have spoken politely about it instead

We didn't see what happened when she first reclined the seat. We DO see that she says nothing and ignores him completely when he starts tapping on her chair. Since we don't what happened when she actually reclined her seat, we don't know if he said something or not.

We do see that she says nothing to him, though. "Excuse me, sir. Your knocking on my seat, would you please stop?" Why? Because she knows that she has bothered him and is in a show down with him. She is as wrong, if not more wrong, than he is.

Violence is never right. Banging on chairs is not right
He could have spoken out instead of banging on her chair

In the video he is relentlessly banging on the chair that someone is sitting on.
End of story

Whether or not she should not hay reclined her seat is not relevant

Eh, he's pretending to be rocking out to the song on his earbuds and tapping the seat to the rhythm of the beat. She's pretending to be "relaxing" while the guy behind her stews. They are both losers.

[Anonymous]

Poster upthread — he was TAPPING in the seat, not banging on it. Passive-aggressive, yes. Violent? No.


Seat recliner seems like a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m short . I recline my seat for long flights. I do not think it is rude. People recline their seats, thaw the armrest (especially males). I blame the airlines. DCUM is not the etiquette guide.

The airline made me do it!



Pathetic.

I fully agree with the PP. The seats recline. If the airline isn't providing enough space to recline without infringing on the next passenger, they need to fix it and stop framing it as an etiquette problem. It's a design problem because they are cramming us in like sardines to maximize profits.

Everyone needs to seriously stop blaming the airlines. Just check out the income statement and balance sheet of almost any US airline. They are not raking in the money! Nobody wants to enter this crappy business. THe reality is that the business has expanded so much that now poor people are a huge part of the customer base. People don't want to pay more than $200 for a domestic plane ticket. And sorry, that doesn't pay the bills. The seats have been getting more cramped because of this. If you don't like it, fly business. When people start paying more money for bigger seats, the supply of seats on planes will shift to bigger seats. It's like saying why are their no flip phones anymore. Because nobody bought them! "It's an evil scheme!" lol

What does the CEO make? I blame the airlines

The CEO could make zero dollars and it would not change a single economic fact that is relevant to small seats

You said they are not taking in the money. I call bullshi$ and say pull up the CEOs salary/bonus/perks.