Virginia Democrats Now Plan to Issue Driver’s Licenses to Illegal Immigrants

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Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


This website barely functions on mobile. Should I post a pic of Jeff Bezos as an example of what the representative white male achieves in their life?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


This website barely functions on mobile. Should I post a pic of Jeff Bezos as an example of what the representative white male achieves in their life?

You can start a separate thread about white male achievers if you like. But don't bring that crap here cause we ain't talking about white males - talking about Hispanic immigrants.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


1 illegal immigrant creates a chain that caters to illegals.

1 out of 11 million illegals isn't a great justification.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


1 illegal immigrant creates a chain that caters to illegals.

1 out of 11 million illegals isn't a great justification.

1 is better than none. You got a shitty attitude what's your deal?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


This website barely functions on mobile. Should I post a pic of Jeff Bezos as an example of what the representative white male achieves in their life?

You can start a separate thread about white male achievers if you like. But don't bring that crap here cause we ain't talking about white males - talking about Hispanic immigrants.


I don’t actually want to talk about white male achievers, genius. I want to point out the absurdity of your example
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

Carlos Castro, president and CEO of Todos Supermarket


The year 1990 was a busy one for Castro. He not only founded Todos, a supermarket chain catering to Latino shoppers in the Washington, DC, area, he also became a U.S citizen, 11 years after he first entered the country. He initially fled El Salvador in 1979 and entered illegally but was later deported. The next year, he was back, working a series of odd jobs and eventually bringing over his wife and children.

Todos (Spanish for “everybody”) is a small chain, but it’s a multimillion-dollar business — and a well-respected one. The Virginia Chamber of Commerce named it one of its Fantastic 50 businesses for three consecutive years starting in 2005, and in 2007 it claimed business-of-the-year honors from the Virginia Merchant and Retailers Association.


This website barely functions on mobile. Should I post a pic of Jeff Bezos as an example of what the representative white male achieves in their life?

You can start a separate thread about white male achievers if you like. But don't bring that crap here cause we ain't talking about white males - talking about Hispanic immigrants.


I don’t actually want to talk about white male achievers, genius. I want to point out the absurdity of your example

What's absurd about a former illegal who came here and has a better portfolio and has garnered more accolades than 99% of the bitter anonymous critics on DCUM?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

DP.. get off your high horse. I can speak two languages, too, but it's incredibly selfish and naive to think that just because one person was able to achieve x with no help that others can do the same with no help.

More than likely that fruit or vegetable you ate (if you eat any, that is) was picked by an illegal immigrant. I'm not *for* illegal immigration, but I see those folks as people and not just a drain on society and realize that they do some back breaking work.

That's a lot of hate for people who pick your produce for you and your family.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

DP.. get off your high horse. I can speak two languages, too, but it's incredibly selfish and naive to think that just because one person was able to achieve x with no help that others can do the same with no help.

More than likely that fruit or vegetable you ate (if you eat any, that is) was picked by an illegal immigrant. I'm not *for* illegal immigration, but I see those folks as people and not just a drain on society and realize that they do some back breaking work.

That's a lot of hate for people who pick your produce for you and your family.


DP

I HATE this BS argument.

Picking fruit and vegetables is a tough job. These workers need to be paid more.

Why do you want to encourage people to come here illegally and risk their lives just so you can have cheap lettuce?? You are selfish and greedy.

Pay the workers more, hire legal workers (immigrants or not), offer workers benefits and you can pay 20 cents more for your apples. Win-win.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

DP.. get off your high horse. I can speak two languages, too, but it's incredibly selfish and naive to think that just because one person was able to achieve x with no help that others can do the same with no help.

More than likely that fruit or vegetable you ate (if you eat any, that is) was picked by an illegal immigrant. I'm not *for* illegal immigration, but I see those folks as people and not just a drain on society and realize that they do some back breaking work.

That's a lot of hate for people who pick your produce for you and your family.


I don't support exploiting people which is what we do when it comes to picking produce. Illegal immigration exploits people and puts them in a condition where they can't complain about it either.

Americans love for cheap labour needs to end. Same for exploitative H1B practices.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

DP.. get off your high horse. I can speak two languages, too, but it's incredibly selfish and naive to think that just because one person was able to achieve x with no help that others can do the same with no help.

More than likely that fruit or vegetable you ate (if you eat any, that is) was picked by an illegal immigrant. I'm not *for* illegal immigration, but I see those folks as people and not just a drain on society and realize that they do some back breaking work.

That's a lot of hate for people who pick your produce for you and your family.


I don't support exploiting people which is what we do when it comes to picking produce. Illegal immigration exploits people and puts them in a condition where they can't complain about it either.

Americans love for cheap labour needs to end. Same for exploitative H1B practices.


+1 million

Crappy wages, no benefits, no safety regulations for these workers. Why would you support a system that allows employers to exploit their workers in this way? Don't you think the people who do the hard work of picking your produce deserve a living wage? They deserve stability, and to have a safe working environment.

Quit supporting illegal immigration. You can advocate for more legal immigration, or higher wages for these low level jobs. But, encouraging illegal immigration just so that you can get cheap labor is immoral and disgusting.
Anonymous
"I see illegal immigrants as people."

Well, I see other criminals as people too, but that doesn't give them the right to commit crimes without consequence. It is simple. If you want to be in this country, then do so legally and obey the laws. That's why we have them. If you're willing to do that then great, the more the merrier. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

Second topic. Enforcement. Border camps, walls, etc. are mostly a waste of time and effort and can be inhumane. Reduce CBP and claw back that money. Pass a federal law upon the states and localities not allowing public services to ILLEGAL immigrants. Violating that law will result in loss of all federal funding from Feds to States. Pass a federal law (fraud and illegal hiring practices) on all business in U.S. to not knowingly and systematically hire illegal workers. Deploy business auditors from IRS or Dept. of Commerce (using money from reduced CBP) to randomly audit businesses of all sizes looking for I9 verifications of all staff (employed or contractors). Businesses in violation will lose license and be assessed a significant fine (one that will likely put the company out of business). None of this is violent or physically harms any children or adults. It simply works at the economics and services side of the motivation to come here illegally in the first place.

Finally, streamline the legal immigration process, particularly for those that can prove citizenship from central american countries and those that can demonstrate a high demand / low supply trade, skill, or expertise.
Anonymous
Sounds great until they get into a car accident with you and then don’t have insurance and worry about the cops coming so they drive off.
Not to mention, more of them taking jobs that belong to citizens and LEGAL immigrants.

Great idea, morons!
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Anonymous wrote:The immigrant issue really transcends the classic boundaries of the social and economic. Many people will say, "I'm socially leftwing but economically rightwing," but these folks are a major, major drain on our economy. My kids' school has a few hispanics in each class. Their parents never show up to events, I've personally observed hired translators standing in the hallway waiting for no-show parents for HOURS for a parent-teacher conference, they need separate ESOL classes, they're on subsidized lunch and probably head start too, and then the kids misbehave and disrupt classes. It's a social and economic cancer

They are not drain on society. They are the legs on which this economy. Those kids will outperform yours one day. Watch it. While you are worried about ESOL classes, these kids grow up learning 2 languages. I learned Spanish after arriving in US because it's clearly the 2nd language here. Not a big deal. Why can't you? It's not a hard language. And if you can, why not help them translate.
I don't show up for the school events. School is for kids and not for parents. You should go to school for you and not hang around your kids' school.




My children speak two languages fluently and they didn't need tax dollars to achieve that. I speak three languages. Hispanic illegal immigrants will NEVER pay enough into the system to justify the exorbitant amount of tax dollars wasted on their underperformance.

DP.. get off your high horse. I can speak two languages, too, but it's incredibly selfish and naive to think that just because one person was able to achieve x with no help that others can do the same with no help.

More than likely that fruit or vegetable you ate (if you eat any, that is) was picked by an illegal immigrant. I'm not *for* illegal immigration, but I see those folks as people and not just a drain on society and realize that they do some back breaking work.

That's a lot of hate for people who pick your produce for you and your family.


I don't support exploiting people which is what we do when it comes to picking produce. Illegal immigration exploits people and puts them in a condition where they can't complain about it either.

Americans love for cheap labour needs to end. Same for exploitative H1B practices.


+1 million

Crappy wages, no benefits, no safety regulations for these workers. Why would you support a system that allows employers to exploit their workers in this way? Don't you think the people who do the hard work of picking your produce deserve a living wage? They deserve stability, and to have a safe working environment.

Quit supporting illegal immigration. You can advocate for more legal immigration, or higher wages for these low level jobs. But, encouraging illegal immigration just so that you can get cheap labor is immoral and disgusting.


I am on the left and I agree with this. I can’t just go to another country and get benefits citizens get without doing it legally, so why should they? Yes, they’re human too, but they need to follow the rules.
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