Colleges that do NOT push individual pronouns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's really amusing to see how administrators handle room assignments for nonbinary and transgender teens when going on overnight trips.

Examples?

This came up at my DC's school. Administrators made students room with students of the same biological sex. They didn't want any pregnancies happening. Students could pay extra for fewer roommates if they wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So homophobic is now a synonym for non-liberal. Got it.

So liberal is now a synonym for divorced from reality. Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you who have children currently in college, could you tell me which colleges and universities have NOT latched onto everyone announcing their personal pronouns? I don't mind using a novel pronoun for someone who is truly intersex, but I acknowledge most of the world as binary.

Thank you.

Bob Jones University
Liberty
Brigham Young -Provo, Hawaii and Idaho
Southern Virginia University
Notre Dame
Thomas More
Benedictine College
Fairfield University
Regent University

Are a few

You can remove Fairfield from the list.

[Anonymous]

How is providing a prompt for people to fill out pronouns IF THEY WANT TO “pushing” anything?

I work at UMD, and no one is ever REQUIRED to provide this info. There was one conference where the registration wouldn’t move forward without it; I called; the form was corrected to move forward either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you who have children currently in college, could you tell me which colleges and universities have NOT latched onto everyone announcing their personal pronouns? I don't mind using a novel pronoun for someone who is truly intersex, but I acknowledge most of the world as binary.

Thank you.

Bob Jones University
Liberty
Brigham Young -Provo, Hawaii and Idaho
Southern Virginia University
Notre Dame
Thomas More
Benedictine College
Fairfield University
Regent University

Are a few

Scratch Norte Dame if you mean the big football school in Indiana. They respect gender pronouns there.

So at ND, every student at orientation is asked what pronouns they prefer? Are all professors required to ask students what pronouns they prefer? That seems unlikely to me, but maybe I am wrong. That is different than respecting an individual request to be called by a certain pronouns.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm not sure you deserve all the bashing you're getting. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone to "declare" their pronouns, although I have zero issue with addressing people respectfully in the way that they prefer. I don't know that any of this stuff is as prevalent as some of the media or activist community makes it seem. I have a colleague who is very outspoken on these issues and has insisted that "all young people" introduce themselves with their pronouns. But that's not my experience - I have taught classes at a local university and regularly interact with college students and recent grads. I think I've had one student, total, mention their pronouns to me. I've asked my oldest kid, who's in HS in a very liberal area, whether this is a thing and the frequency there seems very low as well.

[Anonymous]

OP -- we visited a couple colleges this summer. Before one tour at a SLAC, the tour guides gave their pronouns during introductions. At a different school, however, no preferred pronouns were announced. I noticed this and it probably gives some insight into the culture of the school. So I would pay attention to this sort of thing when visiting schools if this issue is important to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's really amusing to see how administrators handle room assignments for nonbinary and transgender teens when going on overnight trips.

Examples?

This came up at my DC's school. Administrators made students room with students of the same biological sex. They didn't want any pregnancies happening. Students could pay extra for fewer roommates if they wanted.

Clearly they fail to understand some fundamental things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm not sure you deserve all the bashing you're getting. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone to "declare" their pronouns, although I have zero issue with addressing people respectfully in the way that they prefer. I don't know that any of this stuff is as prevalent as some of the media or activist community makes it seem. I have a colleague who is very outspoken on these issues and has insisted that "all young people" introduce themselves with their pronouns. But that's not my experience - I have taught classes at a local university and regularly interact with college students and recent grads. I think I've had one student, total, mention their pronouns to me. I've asked my oldest kid, who's in HS in a very liberal area, whether this is a thing and the frequency there seems very low as well.

No one is being forced. It is an option. Option being optional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm not sure you deserve all the bashing you're getting. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone to "declare" their pronouns, although I have zero issue with addressing people respectfully in the way that they prefer. I don't know that any of this stuff is as prevalent as some of the media or activist community makes it seem. I have a colleague who is very outspoken on these issues and has insisted that "all young people" introduce themselves with their pronouns. But that's not my experience - I have taught classes at a local university and regularly interact with college students and recent grads. I think I've had one student, total, mention their pronouns to me. I've asked my oldest kid, who's in HS in a very liberal area, whether this is a thing and the frequency there seems very low as well.

No one is being forced. It is an option. Option being optional.

PP here, I'm not sure that's entirely true. My colleague wanted to make pronoun declarations mandatory for email signatures & other official business as a way of signaling inclusiveness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you who have children currently in college, could you tell me which colleges and universities have NOT latched onto everyone announcing their personal pronouns? I don't mind using a novel pronoun for someone who is truly intersex, but I acknowledge most of the world as binary.

Thank you.

Bob Jones University
Liberty
Brigham Young -Provo, Hawaii and Idaho
Southern Virginia University
Notre Dame
Thomas More
Benedictine College
Fairfield University
Regent University

Are a few

Scratch Norte Dame if you mean the big football school in Indiana. They respect gender pronouns there.

So at ND, every student at orientation is asked what pronouns they prefer? Are all professors required to ask students what pronouns they prefer? That seems unlikely to me, but maybe I am wrong. That is different than respecting an individual request to be called by a certain pronouns.

No, it’s not a global, required thing hardly anywhere. But if you sign up for a group, living-learning program, or conference there, you may be asked. Not required to answer, but ASKED if you WANT to share that info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the single stupidest criterion I’ve heard for picking colleges. Get a real problem.

It's not stupid. I don't want my child indoctrinated into thinking that picking your own pronouns is normal. Again, if a person is truly intersex, I understand that this person will have special circumstances.

I agree with you but I think all these Ivory Tower nutjobs do it. I was at first shocked to see all the emails from my kids' colleges have pronouns in the faculty signatures! It's just so cringey

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm not sure you deserve all the bashing you're getting. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone to "declare" their pronouns, although I have zero issue with addressing people respectfully in the way that they prefer. I don't know that any of this stuff is as prevalent as some of the media or activist community makes it seem. I have a colleague who is very outspoken on these issues and has insisted that "all young people" introduce themselves with their pronouns. But that's not my experience - I have taught classes at a local university and regularly interact with college students and recent grads. I think I've had one student, total, mention their pronouns to me. I've asked my oldest kid, who's in HS in a very liberal area, whether this is a thing and the frequency there seems very low as well.

No one is being forced. It is an option. Option being optional.

It is NOT optional. Two of my childen attend what this forum considers elite colleges. Both orientations had forced to-do lists which included specifying your pronouns and signing a pledge to only use others' chosen pronouns. You can get in SERIOUS trouble if you even inadvertently call someone the wrong pronoun!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the single stupidest criterion I’ve heard for picking colleges. Get a real problem.

It's not stupid. I don't want my child indoctrinated into thinking that picking your own pronouns is normal. Again, if a person is truly intersex, I understand that this person will have special circumstances.

I agree with you but I think all these Ivory Tower nutjobs do it. I was at first shocked to see all the emails from my kids' colleges have pronouns in the faculty signatures! It's just so cringey

You saw something cringey? Are you OK?!?!!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm not sure you deserve all the bashing you're getting. I'm not a fan of forcing everyone to "declare" their pronouns, although I have zero issue with addressing people respectfully in the way that they prefer. I don't know that any of this stuff is as prevalent as some of the media or activist community makes it seem. I have a colleague who is very outspoken on these issues and has insisted that "all young people" introduce themselves with their pronouns. But that's not my experience - I have taught classes at a local university and regularly interact with college students and recent grads. I think I've had one student, total, mention their pronouns to me. I've asked my oldest kid, who's in HS in a very liberal area, whether this is a thing and the frequency there seems very low as well.

No one is being forced. It is an option. Option being optional.

It is NOT optional. Two of my childen attend what this forum considers elite colleges. Both orientations had forced to-do lists which included specifying your pronouns and signing a pledge to only use others' chosen pronouns. You can get in SERIOUS trouble if you even inadvertently call someone the wrong pronoun!

I agree with this poster. I attended a SLAC and graduated in 2016. In the final two years, pronouns really picked up steam and at various classes, conferences, & extracurricular activities it was expected that when you say your name, you ask say your pronoun. In fact because they didn’t want to “other” the genderqueer and trans community members, it was considered offensive if you passed or made any comment to the unimportance of yours or others’ pronouns. The hardest part though was that some in the gender queer community changed their preferred pronouns at different points (not just one and done). Then you were expected to know what exactly they went by at the time when they could from as an example she to they to they/he to they to they/she to they.