Family members in Guatemala ask me for money

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Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Be content in your generosity without having to control others.

The only one trying to control others is your attempt to curb the free speech on this forum. Sorry that my generosity of spirit makes you feel so defensive.

+1 It's funny how some people feel personally offended when other people are more giving. People live their lives in different ways.

It’s funny how some people can’t give freely without calling attention to other’s lack of generosity.

Pointing out that others live generously isn't shaming others. If you feel you're being shamed for not giving enough, perhaps it's you who feel uncomfortable with your own actions.

Read the bolded. Pp was clearly trying to shame.

Read the first bolded above. Where PP was insulting the poster who pointed out that not everyone has the same set of family values.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:dont. as PP said you will become an ATM for the entire extended family. I remember your thread from pre-trip, how your mom wants to spend lavishly while there and whether to ask mom’s siblings for money to make the trip happen, especially one better-off uncle. Seems mooching off each other is not atypical behavior in the extended family.

link?

OP can give the link of she wants to.

[Anonymous]

When I lived in Ecuador, US $2k was more than the annual income for most lower middle class people. I earned $500/mo and was deemed very wealthy. So your relatives probably think you are more than comfortable. I don’t know Guatemala well, but you may be able to find out if there is a specific need they have that might be something you can do once and make clear it is just this once at great sacrifice to you. After I returned to the States, an Ecuadorian friend asked me to help her get her business off the ground. She couldn’t understand why I was rich there, but poor here. In the end, I sent her $25 and asked that she pay it forward.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, find out what they are in need of, in terms of material goods, and you can try and collect items and ship them. Does your extended family hint that they hope to travel to the U.S. and name you as their landing pad?

I thought El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras were dangerous, violent, crime riddled countries. Wouldn’t sending a goodie package get confiscated by the local gang or corrupt police?

Not sure just how sarcastic you are being but the answer is no. While these countries are high crime areas there are plenty of safe places and things don't just get confiscated. Plenty of people live in peace.

what are you talking about? I thought 99% of the country is taking one of their kids to currently caravanning over through Central America and all of Mexico to throw the dice at winning refugee status asylum in USA?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry typos, I meant now that they have my WhatsApp it’s another person they can ask besides my mom.

Why are your cousins asking your mom for money?

Because my mom always would send money to my grandparents. They then passed away and mom kept sending money to help out my aunt and uncle. My cousins always ask her for money for shoes, clothes, phones etc. When we went last year my mom sent TWO HUGE BOXES full of clothes, kitchen things etc and they just keep asking for money all the time. My mom doesn’t e en have health insurance or anything for her future. So keeps investing in my cousins who are just lazy.

sorry to hear that. seems shortsighted but very third world.

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Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Be content in your generosity without having to control others.

The only one trying to control others is your attempt to curb the free speech on this forum. Sorry that my generosity of spirit makes you feel so defensive.

+1 It's funny how some people feel personally offended when other people are more giving. People live their lives in different ways.

It’s funny how some people can’t give freely without calling attention to other’s lack of generosity.

Funny. All our Asian, Indian and Latinx friend characterize it more like GUILTED in to sending money. Like, how dare you desert us, but oh thank goodness you did since $500 USD can buy so much for us here in the homeland, keep it coming. Or else you will be thrown away from our family! muhahahaha.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I lived in Ecuador, US $2k was more than the annual income for most lower middle class people. I earned $500/mo and was deemed very wealthy. So your relatives probably think you are more than comfortable. I don’t know Guatemala well, but you may be able to find out if there is a specific need they have that might be something you can do once and make clear it is just this once at great sacrifice to you. After I returned to the States, an Ecuadorian friend asked me to help her get her business off the ground. She couldn’t understand why I was rich there, but poor here. In the end, I sent her $25 and asked that she pay it forward.

concepts that are mind boggling in emerging markets:
Cost of Living
Health or car insurance
Preventative care
School for 13 years
Not using the ER room for whatever you want
Paying income taxes
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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Sanctimonious and superior? Smugness is not a good look.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Sanctimonious and superior? Smugness is not a good look.

Better sanctimonious and superior than selfish and uncaring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Be content in your generosity without having to control others.

The only one trying to control others is your attempt to curb the free speech on this forum. Sorry that my generosity of spirit makes you feel so defensive.

+1 It's funny how some people feel personally offended when other people are more giving. People live their lives in different ways.

It’s funny how some people can’t give freely without calling attention to other’s lack of generosity.

Pointing out that others live generously isn't shaming others. If you feel you're being shamed for not giving enough, perhaps it's you who feel uncomfortable with your own actions.

Read the bolded. Pp was clearly trying to shame.

Read the first bolded above. Where PP was insulting the poster who pointed out that not everyone has the same set of family values.

You mean the poster who called out the sanctimonious one? S/he was asking for it with that smug tone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Be content in your generosity without having to control others.

The only one trying to control others is your attempt to curb the free speech on this forum. Sorry that my generosity of spirit makes you feel so defensive.

+1 It's funny how some people feel personally offended when other people are more giving. People live their lives in different ways.

It’s funny how some people can’t give freely without calling attention to other’s lack of generosity.

Funny. All our Asian, Indian and Latinx friend characterize it more like GUILTED in to sending money. Like, how dare you desert us, but oh thank goodness you did since $500 USD can buy so much for us here in the homeland, keep it coming. Or else you will be thrown away from our family! muhahahaha.

Well that's your circle of friends. My Asian (and Indians are part of Asia) and Latinx friends support their family because they love them and that's the way they were brought up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Sanctimonious and superior? Smugness is not a good look.

Better sanctimonious and superior than selfish and uncaring.

Whatever. I value my bank account and pace of mind. You can run around doing all the good you want and feeling that you're better than everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Sanctimonious and superior? Smugness is not a good look.

Better sanctimonious and superior than selfish and uncaring.

+1 Paying someone's gas bill so they can get to work is not a hard ask for most people in America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Sanctimonious and superior? Smugness is not a good look.

Better sanctimonious and superior than selfish and uncaring.

Whatever. I value my bank account and pace of mind. You can run around doing all the good you want and feeling that you're better than everyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Block them on Whatsapp, unless you want to become an ATM.

That's exactly what Jesus preached.

Is Jesus going to come pay OP's bills when she needs it?

Is this a question of not being able to pay bills or not having sufficient discretionary income?

Doesn't matter. OP is not obliged to give if she doesn't want to.

No one is obliged to give, but some of us live by a different moral code to care for family and those in need.

You do you and drop the sanctimony.

Yes, I will do me and be a better person than you.

Be content in your generosity without having to control others.

The only one trying to control others is your attempt to curb the free speech on this forum. Sorry that my generosity of spirit makes you feel so defensive.

+1 It's funny how some people feel personally offended when other people are more giving. People live their lives in different ways.

It’s funny how some people can’t give freely without calling attention to other’s lack of generosity.

Funny. All our Asian, Indian and Latinx friend characterize it more like GUILTED in to sending money. Like, how dare you desert us, but oh thank goodness you did since $500 USD can buy so much for us here in the homeland, keep it coming. Or else you will be thrown away from our family! muhahahaha.

Well that's your circle of friends. My Asian (and Indians are part of Asia) and Latinx friends support their family because they love them and that's the way they were brought up.

So they were brought up to always have their hand out asking for help?