Women irritate me (vent)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Dp

Ask this op. Are u the type of woman who you would hate? I have had women been mean and exclusive for no reason but pettiness but women and men have different types of friends. Not all women are like the people you meet so thats why women are getting defensive. Perhaps you are going into a relationship with a negative viewpoint so you find what you are looking for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cool women don’t want to be friends with all you “men make better friends” ladies.

We can spot you and you do the sisterhood a disservice!

Absolutely. If OP and PPs think women are catty and calculating, it’s because like attracts like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

Is your son socially stunted enough to go on a website forum composed mostly of other guys and post a "vent" about how much they "irritate" him, and he mostly prefers to hang out with girls instead of them?

And then ask why that makes them defensive?

Because that wouldn't be being a drama loving shit-stirrer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

What's misogynistic is OP stereotyping women as insufferable, needy with unrealistic expectations, not independent, unable to be alone. Women, like men, are individuals. If OP constantly attracting the same type of individual for female friendship, that says more about her than anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

Uh huh. The title of this thread is “Women irritate me (vent)”.

[Anonymous]

After reading this thread, I can see why women irritate Op.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I can see why seeking out people to tell them they irritate you might make them irritated, too. Poking people with metaphoric sticks seems to do that, how strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a woman, but for the most part I hate hanging out with other women. The majority of women I encounter are insufferable. They are needy, have unrealistic expectations of you, and have no yet perfected how to be independent. They also have not learned how to enjoy time alone with themselves. I know this is not ALL women, but it is a lot of women. It's maddening. Men are so much simpler. I envy the way their friendships work at times.

Yes, we really shouldn't let the simple dears worry their simple heads about the complexities of policy, finance, business, etc. It's too much for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

Is your son socially stunted enough to go on a website forum composed mostly of other guys and post a "vent" about how much they "irritate" him, and he mostly prefers to hang out with girls instead of them?

And then ask why that makes them defensive?

Because that wouldn't be being a drama loving shit-stirrer.

Bolded the whole post because it's absolutely brilliant!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone so defensive? What is it about women who prefer male friends that gets your blood boiling? No, you can't spot us since you have a stereotype of the type of woman who can be friends with guys.

Haha the "sisterhood" really? Many women claim to be all about building women up yet often tear each other down. DCUM is a good example.

Why would we not be defensive about one woman writing off ALL other women as being inferior to herself and men? Heaven forbid she actually have daughters one day with this kind of internalized misogyny. Which, by the way, is what we are calling out- bit again, if you’re not secure enough to accept criticism from women who want you to be a woman who does better, you’ll just distill it to us being haters and claim we arent building you up. Nope, I’m sure not building up a woman who believes all women are the problem in this world. We get enough sh*t from men. Don’t need it from this side too.

The OP didn't directly say women are inferior nor did anyone else say inferior or critical. It's a preference for male friends but doesn't exclude woman as friends. Your description of female friendship is a bit warped. Friendship, whether male or female isn't based on "criticism". Support is maybe what you meant. I generally don't criticize any of my friends. Why would I? Most people just want to be heard and acknowledged. If they ask for advice, I choose the most sensitive way to offer.

Misogyny is one of those words that's so over stated on DCUM and in general. Personally, I don't hate women at all. As another poster said, I like diversity and that includes men, women, any ethnicity or identity that aligns in a mutual friendship. I'm lucky that I have great, lifelong, male friends and often, I have more fun when they're around. So it is my preference. Yes, I am married and have a family, nieces etc. Here's the kicker...my teen son has more friends that are girls. He has guy friends too, just less. It's his preference.

Is your son socially stunted enough to go on a website forum composed mostly of other guys and post a "vent" about how much they "irritate" him, and he mostly prefers to hang out with girls instead of them?

And then ask why that makes them defensive?

Because that wouldn't be being a drama loving shit-stirrer.

I am not the OP and didn't start this topic. The son you're referring to is mine. And no where in my post that you quoted above states, "women irritate me". In your own words from your previous post that I responded to, "are you secure enough to accept criticism from a woman who wants you to do better?" Let's see if you practice what your preach...your responses are defensive and seem insecure. I don't think that you are inferior, I don't hate you and if we knew each other, maybe we would be friends. I am contributing to a thread, just like you. The OP included subtle clarifications such as, "not all women but a lot of women". That's her experience, sadly. You only heard "ALL" women. I care about you pp, and "I want you to do better." This is meant to hopefully make you laugh, not antagonize. I'll apologize in advance for the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cool women don’t want to be friends with all you “men make better friends” ladies.

We can spot you and you do the sisterhood a disservice!

Absolutely. If OP and PPs think women are catty and calculating, it’s because like attracts like.

+1

I am fully aware there are some women who are catty, competitive, and calculating. I am fully aware that there are some women who are insecure and feel the need to pull others down to build themselves up, or constantly seek external validation. I am fully aware that there are some women who are needy, or shallow, or bitchy. Because women are people. There are plenty of men who are shallow, or competitive, or critical, or insensitive, or mean, or insecure, etc., too. And I don't go around saying women are irritating and there aren't any women to be friends with. There are plenty of women that I like, and would like to be friends with or am friends with. Maybe it's because I wasn't "cool" growing up, so I was never part of the cliques, and I don't find myself attracted to them as an adult, either. I just ignore the BS and focus on the people who are friendly and nice and fun and genuine. Because they exist. But walking around with a big chip on your shoulder about how awful women are isn't going to endear you to the women who don't fit your stereotypes. Emotionally healthy people are going to pick up on that attitude and give you a wide berth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a woman, but for the most part I hate hanging out with other women. The majority of women I encounter are insufferable. They are needy, have unrealistic expectations of you, and have no yet perfected how to be independent. They also have not learned how to enjoy time alone with themselves. I know this is not ALL women, but it is a lot of women. It's maddening. Men are so much simpler. I envy the way their friendships work at times.

Insufferable . . . . lol. Pot, meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cool women don’t want to be friends with all you “men make better friends” ladies.

We can spot you and you do the sisterhood a disservice!

Absolutely. If OP and PPs think women are catty and calculating, it’s because like attracts like.

+1

I am fully aware there are some women who are catty, competitive, and calculating. I am fully aware that there are some women who are insecure and feel the need to pull others down to build themselves up, or constantly seek external validation. I am fully aware that there are some women who are needy, or shallow, or bitchy. Because women are people. There are plenty of men who are shallow, or competitive, or critical, or insensitive, or mean, or insecure, etc., too. And I don't go around saying women are irritating and there aren't any women to be friends with. There are plenty of women that I like, and would like to be friends with or am friends with. Maybe it's because I wasn't "cool" growing up, so I was never part of the cliques, and I don't find myself attracted to them as an adult, either. I just ignore the BS and focus on the people who are friendly and nice and fun and genuine. Because they exist. But walking around with a big chip on your shoulder about how awful women are isn't going to endear you to the women who don't fit your stereotypes. Emotionally healthy people are going to pick up on that attitude and give you a wide berth.

+1 yup

[Anonymous]

Don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t know any women like this.