European formulas

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Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

Infant milk allergies are to the proteins, not the sugars. It's very rare to have a lactose intolerant infant.

Soooo...
Skimmed milk, whey powder, whey protein, organic polysaccharides from lactose don’t contain / aren’t milk proteins?

Honestly you need to step away from the computer tonight. It's weird that this upsets you so much, unless you work for, like, Enfamil or something (Big Formula? lol). And in any case you're being oddly aggressive and antagonistic. Seriously go hug your kids or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used Holle. I’m European so I just felt more confortable with a European brand.

But your feel comfortable living in another country?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

Infant milk allergies are to the proteins, not the sugars. It's very rare to have a lactose intolerant infant.

Soooo...
Skimmed milk, whey powder, whey protein, organic polysaccharides from lactose don’t contain / aren’t milk proteins?

Honestly you need to step away from the computer tonight. It's weird that this upsets you so much, unless you work for, like, Enfamil or something (Big Formula? lol). And in any case you're being oddly aggressive and antagonistic. Seriously go hug your kids or something.

DP. The stupidity in this thread is upsetting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

Infant milk allergies are to the proteins, not the sugars. It's very rare to have a lactose intolerant infant.

Soooo...
Skimmed milk, whey powder, whey protein, organic polysaccharides from lactose don’t contain / aren’t milk proteins?

Honestly you need to step away from the computer tonight. It's weird that this upsets you so much, unless you work for, like, Enfamil or something (Big Formula? lol). And in any case you're being oddly aggressive and antagonistic. Seriously go hug your kids or something.

+1

That lady is clearly miserable with her life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

I keep hearing this and this seems to be much more the case for formulas in the US that are supposedly "gentle" or geared for lactose intolerance. The standard yellow box enfamil does not have corn syrup nor sugar as a sweetner. It's lactose. Here are the ingredients: NONFAT MILK, LACTOSE, VEGETABLE OIL (PALM OLEIN, COCONUT, SOY, AND HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OILS), WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, AND LESS THAN 2% of a bunch of things I'm not listing but not corn syrup.

This was the formula I used when I was totally naive that importing formula was even a thing and when our baby was in the NICU after being born they handed this to us to supplement. I remember when I first heard this whole corn syrup and sugar thing I took a look at the ingredients and just sort of shrugged my shoulders. Eventually after many months when DS self weaned, I realized that the formula didn't have a great smell because of the iron/vitamin mixture used. We moved onto similac pure bliss, which again is lactose sweetened (but honestly, I wasn't specifically looking for this). Ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Lactose, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Whey Protein Concentrate, Soy Oil, Coconut Oil, Galactooligosaccharides. Less than 2% of again, a bunch of things I'm not going to list. Anyways, this formula didn't smell.

The cynicism about the FDA on this board is interesting. How do any of you take any medicine? Vaccinations? Eat literally anything? I am fairly curious for those who use this imported formula, what real benefit you think it will give your baby when millions of Americans over many many years have been using American formula. Formula didn't cause the obesity crisis if that's what you're worried about and the user according to the times article is wealthy white women so hey, I think your kid is going to be fine whether you use Enfamil or Holle or Hipp. You have access to healthy food, a safe environment for them to play/exercise in, and thus your kid already has a huge leg up health wise.

What does concern me about importing formula is that you really do not have any way of knowing whether it is legit or not (forgery has gotten really good), you do not know how it was transported either and just because the seal hasn't been broken and the container is intact doesn't mean it has been through inappropriate temperatures and handling conditions. And you will also have to be quite diligent in understanding whether there's been a recall of that tub of formula. God forbid your baby gets sick and the culprit is the formula you illegally imported, I'm not sure what your recourse will be. It is one of those scenarios where the benefit is so unclear and minute to me, I'm not sure why you'd take the risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

I keep hearing this and this seems to be much more the case for formulas in the US that are supposedly "gentle" or geared for lactose intolerance. The standard yellow box enfamil does not have corn syrup nor sugar as a sweetner. It's lactose. Here are the ingredients: NONFAT MILK, LACTOSE, VEGETABLE OIL (PALM OLEIN, COCONUT, SOY, AND HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OILS), WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, AND LESS THAN 2% of a bunch of things I'm not listing but not corn syrup.

This was the formula I used when I was totally naive that importing formula was even a thing and when our baby was in the NICU after being born they handed this to us to supplement. I remember when I first heard this whole corn syrup and sugar thing I took a look at the ingredients and just sort of shrugged my shoulders. Eventually after many months when DS self weaned, I realized that the formula didn't have a great smell because of the iron/vitamin mixture used. We moved onto similac pure bliss, which again is lactose sweetened (but honestly, I wasn't specifically looking for this). Ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Lactose, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Whey Protein Concentrate, Soy Oil, Coconut Oil, Galactooligosaccharides. Less than 2% of again, a bunch of things I'm not going to list. Anyways, this formula didn't smell.

The cynicism about the FDA on this board is interesting. How do any of you take any medicine? Vaccinations? Eat literally anything? I am fairly curious for those who use this imported formula, what real benefit you think it will give your baby when millions of Americans over many many years have been using American formula. Formula didn't cause the obesity crisis if that's what you're worried about and the user according to the times article is wealthy white women so hey, I think your kid is going to be fine whether you use Enfamil or Holle or Hipp. You have access to healthy food, a safe environment for them to play/exercise in, and thus your kid already has a huge leg up health wise.

What does concern me about importing formula is that you really do not have any way of knowing whether it is legit or not (forgery has gotten really good), you do not know how it was transported either and just because the seal hasn't been broken and the container is intact doesn't mean it has been through inappropriate temperatures and handling conditions. And you will also have to be quite diligent in understanding whether there's been a recall of that tub of formula. God forbid your baby gets sick and the culprit is the formula you illegally imported, I'm not sure what your recourse will be. It is one of those scenarios where the benefit is so unclear and minute to me, I'm not sure why you'd take the risk.

You again. Get a life. Step away from the computer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

I keep hearing this and this seems to be much more the case for formulas in the US that are supposedly "gentle" or geared for lactose intolerance. The standard yellow box enfamil does not have corn syrup nor sugar as a sweetner. It's lactose. Here are the ingredients: NONFAT MILK, LACTOSE, VEGETABLE OIL (PALM OLEIN, COCONUT, SOY, AND HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OILS), WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, AND LESS THAN 2% of a bunch of things I'm not listing but not corn syrup.

This was the formula I used when I was totally naive that importing formula was even a thing and when our baby was in the NICU after being born they handed this to us to supplement. I remember when I first heard this whole corn syrup and sugar thing I took a look at the ingredients and just sort of shrugged my shoulders. Eventually after many months when DS self weaned, I realized that the formula didn't have a great smell because of the iron/vitamin mixture used. We moved onto similac pure bliss, which again is lactose sweetened (but honestly, I wasn't specifically looking for this). Ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Lactose, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Whey Protein Concentrate, Soy Oil, Coconut Oil, Galactooligosaccharides. Less than 2% of again, a bunch of things I'm not going to list. Anyways, this formula didn't smell.

The cynicism about the FDA on this board is interesting. How do any of you take any medicine? Vaccinations? Eat literally anything? I am fairly curious for those who use this imported formula, what real benefit you think it will give your baby when millions of Americans over many many years have been using American formula. Formula didn't cause the obesity crisis if that's what you're worried about and the user according to the times article is wealthy white women so hey, I think your kid is going to be fine whether you use Enfamil or Holle or Hipp. You have access to healthy food, a safe environment for them to play/exercise in, and thus your kid already has a huge leg up health wise.

What does concern me about importing formula is that you really do not have any way of knowing whether it is legit or not (forgery has gotten really good), you do not know how it was transported either and just because the seal hasn't been broken and the container is intact doesn't mean it has been through inappropriate temperatures and handling conditions. And you will also have to be quite diligent in understanding whether there's been a recall of that tub of formula. God forbid your baby gets sick and the culprit is the formula you illegally imported, I'm not sure what your recourse will be. It is one of those scenarios where the benefit is so unclear and minute to me, I'm not sure why you'd take the risk.

You again. Get a life. Step away from the computer.

Dude, you’re the one harassing people online ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The formula threads on DCUM today have a little bit of everything! Europe is better because reasons; no GMOs; you're just jealous; you're just guilty; your house stinks; you treat your kid like a dog; your formula smells like shit; do some research; I don't have to explain myself; you're being mean asking me to defend my position; FEMINISM IS ABOUT CHOICE. All that's missing is a HIPP user saying something about toxins and/or fluoride.

Yep. I love the EUROPEAN FORMULA IS VASTLY SUPERIOR posters who really can’t say why, then tell others to STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER AND GET A LIFE when faced with a simple question. This thread has been amusing me since yesterday. Keep it up ladies!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

I keep hearing this and this seems to be much more the case for formulas in the US that are supposedly "gentle" or geared for lactose intolerance. The standard yellow box enfamil does not have corn syrup nor sugar as a sweetner. It's lactose. Here are the ingredients: NONFAT MILK, LACTOSE, VEGETABLE OIL (PALM OLEIN, COCONUT, SOY, AND HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OILS), WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, AND LESS THAN 2% of a bunch of things I'm not listing but not corn syrup.

This was the formula I used when I was totally naive that importing formula was even a thing and when our baby was in the NICU after being born they handed this to us to supplement. I remember when I first heard this whole corn syrup and sugar thing I took a look at the ingredients and just sort of shrugged my shoulders. Eventually after many months when DS self weaned, I realized that the formula didn't have a great smell because of the iron/vitamin mixture used. We moved onto similac pure bliss, which again is lactose sweetened (but honestly, I wasn't specifically looking for this). Ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Lactose, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Whey Protein Concentrate, Soy Oil, Coconut Oil, Galactooligosaccharides. Less than 2% of again, a bunch of things I'm not going to list. Anyways, this formula didn't smell.

The cynicism about the FDA on this board is interesting. How do any of you take any medicine? Vaccinations? Eat literally anything? I am fairly curious for those who use this imported formula, what real benefit you think it will give your baby when millions of Americans over many many years have been using American formula. Formula didn't cause the obesity crisis if that's what you're worried about and the user according to the times article is wealthy white women so hey, I think your kid is going to be fine whether you use Enfamil or Holle or Hipp. You have access to healthy food, a safe environment for them to play/exercise in, and thus your kid already has a huge leg up health wise.

What does concern me about importing formula is that you really do not have any way of knowing whether it is legit or not (forgery has gotten really good), you do not know how it was transported either and just because the seal hasn't been broken and the container is intact doesn't mean it has been through inappropriate temperatures and handling conditions. And you will also have to be quite diligent in understanding whether there's been a recall of that tub of formula. God forbid your baby gets sick and the culprit is the formula you illegally imported, I'm not sure what your recourse will be. It is one of those scenarios where the benefit is so unclear and minute to me, I'm not sure why you'd take the risk.

You again. Get a life. Step away from the computer.

Actually, I'm the PP. Honest to God, this was the first time I posted on this thread. There's not one person having these thoughts. I just really am curious what people think the actual advantage is given the unknowns related to the importation process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

I keep hearing this and this seems to be much more the case for formulas in the US that are supposedly "gentle" or geared for lactose intolerance. The standard yellow box enfamil does not have corn syrup nor sugar as a sweetner. It's lactose. Here are the ingredients: NONFAT MILK, LACTOSE, VEGETABLE OIL (PALM OLEIN, COCONUT, SOY, AND HIGH OLEIC SUNFLOWER OILS), WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, AND LESS THAN 2% of a bunch of things I'm not listing but not corn syrup.

This was the formula I used when I was totally naive that importing formula was even a thing and when our baby was in the NICU after being born they handed this to us to supplement. I remember when I first heard this whole corn syrup and sugar thing I took a look at the ingredients and just sort of shrugged my shoulders. Eventually after many months when DS self weaned, I realized that the formula didn't have a great smell because of the iron/vitamin mixture used. We moved onto similac pure bliss, which again is lactose sweetened (but honestly, I wasn't specifically looking for this). Ingredients: Nonfat Milk, Lactose, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Whey Protein Concentrate, Soy Oil, Coconut Oil, Galactooligosaccharides. Less than 2% of again, a bunch of things I'm not going to list. Anyways, this formula didn't smell.

The cynicism about the FDA on this board is interesting. How do any of you take any medicine? Vaccinations? Eat literally anything? I am fairly curious for those who use this imported formula, what real benefit you think it will give your baby when millions of Americans over many many years have been using American formula. Formula didn't cause the obesity crisis if that's what you're worried about and the user according to the times article is wealthy white women so hey, I think your kid is going to be fine whether you use Enfamil or Holle or Hipp. You have access to healthy food, a safe environment for them to play/exercise in, and thus your kid already has a huge leg up health wise.

What does concern me about importing formula is that you really do not have any way of knowing whether it is legit or not (forgery has gotten really good), you do not know how it was transported either and just because the seal hasn't been broken and the container is intact doesn't mean it has been through inappropriate temperatures and handling conditions. And you will also have to be quite diligent in understanding whether there's been a recall of that tub of formula. God forbid your baby gets sick and the culprit is the formula you illegally imported, I'm not sure what your recourse will be. It is one of those scenarios where the benefit is so unclear and minute to me, I'm not sure why you'd take the risk.

You again. Get a life. Step away from the computer.

Actually, I'm the PP. Honest to God, this was the first time I posted on this thread. There's not one person having these thoughts. I just really am curious what people think the actual advantage is given the unknowns related to the importation process.

There is no actual advantage. This thread is just filled with people demonstrating the Sunk Cost fallacy with a little Dunning Kruger effect thrown in for good measure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The formula threads on DCUM today have a little bit of everything! Europe is better because reasons; no GMOs; you're just jealous; you're just guilty; your house stinks; you treat your kid like a dog; your formula smells like shit; do some research; I don't have to explain myself; you're being mean asking me to defend my position; FEMINISM IS ABOUT CHOICE. All that's missing is a HIPP user saying something about toxins and/or fluoride.

Yep. I love the EUROPEAN FORMULA IS VASTLY SUPERIOR posters who really can’t say why, then tell others to STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER AND GET A LIFE when faced with a simple question. This thread has been amusing me since yesterday. Keep it up ladies!

HAH! Me too...amusing

[Anonymous]

Just to be extra judgy- I didn't trust formula and that's why I'm breastfeeding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to be extra judgy- I didn't trust formula and that's why I'm breastfeeding.

Lol aside because I think you posted this to be funny. I really do think the rich white women who breastfeeding (because this is the group that is most likely to do long term breastfeeding) didn't work out for are the ones turning to importing formula from Europe because for some reason they think it is better, though unregulated, and they are trying to soothe the immense guilt of breastfeeding not working out. I never turned to imported formula, but I did feel so supremely guilty when breastfeeding didn't work out for me after literally trying everything to increase my supply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to be extra judgy- I didn't trust formula and that's why I'm breastfeeding.

Lol aside because I think you posted this to be funny. I really do think the rich white women who breastfeeding (because this is the group that is most likely to do long term breastfeeding) didn't work out for are the ones turning to importing formula from Europe because for some reason they think it is better, though unregulated, and they are trying to soothe the immense guilt of breastfeeding not working out. I never turned to imported formula, but I did feel so supremely guilty when breastfeeding didn't work out for me after literally trying everything to increase my supply.

At this point you are clearly trolling. Or just bitter you cant afford better regulated European formula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to be extra judgy- I didn't trust formula and that's why I'm breastfeeding.

Meh. You should have done your research. There’s no benefit to breastfeeding, unless you’re marking European milk.