European formulas

[Anonymous]

I used HIPP and don’t regret it. The American formula smells like shit. European standards are much higher. I used American brand with first kid.

[Anonymous]

The formula threads on DCUM today have a little bit of everything! Europe is better because reasons; no GMOs; you're just jealous; you're just guilty; your house stinks; you treat your kid like a dog; your formula smells like shit; do some research; I don't have to explain myself; you're being mean asking me to defend my position; FEMINISM IS ABOUT CHOICE. All that's missing is a HIPP user saying something about toxins and/or fluoride.

[Anonymous]

Not only do I import HIPP but I also import all my baby's vaccinations as well and make sure I only get paracetamol for his fever from England
You cannot trust the FDA...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

Infant milk allergies are to the proteins, not the sugars. It's very rare to have a lactose intolerant infant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Starting 2020 Holle will be available in the US. So people claiming shady distribution no longer have that mud to sling. I am sure at that point there will still be insults such as more expensive formula doesn’t mean better. If others want to spend money on organic formula what beef do you have with it?

I'll still think it's a waste of money (especially if you think that there's something magic in the specific sugar molecule used) but it's much better than ordering it off the internet from Germany.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sweeteners.
sources of some of these “same” components.
bans on GMO and pesticide use.
more stringent standards on what can be called organic.

There is a difference significant enough to pay extra in my view. Our food supply in the US is inferior thanks to FDA, grandfathering of some older harmful substances when new regulations are adopted and most of all corporations who are allowed to participate in the political process and have religious feelings.

The magical invisible hand of markets results in corn syrup in a newborns’ formula. No thanks.

Thank you, PP. exactly my reasons for using HIPP.

OP or PP who said there is not difference in ingredients. Did you even compare yourself? I just ran the list and a couple of pretty bad ingredients stood out immediately in enfamil, and didn't run through the whole list yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sweeteners.
sources of some of these “same” components.
bans on GMO and pesticide use.
more stringent standards on what can be called organic.

There is a difference significant enough to pay extra in my view. Our food supply in the US is inferior thanks to FDA, grandfathering of some older harmful substances when new regulations are adopted and most of all corporations who are allowed to participate in the political process and have religious feelings.

The magical invisible hand of markets results in corn syrup in a newborns’ formula. No thanks.

Thank you, PP. exactly my reasons for using HIPP.

OP or PP who said there is not difference in ingredients. Did you even compare yourself? I just ran the list and a couple of pretty bad ingredients stood out immediately in enfamil, and didn't run through the whole list yet.

please, enlighten us with the "couple of pretty bad ingredients" in enfamil, and why they are better in HIPP? And no, just saying "corn syrup is badd!!!" is not sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

Please review the Holle ingredients list. Honestly, this thread makes me weep for America.

[Anonymous]

Holle smells way better. American formulas smell gross . Also Holle offers goat milk which is unavailable in the US. European food standards are higher. But mostly it's the smell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

Please review the Holle ingredients list. Honestly, this thread makes me weep for America.

Sugar in Holle comes from lactose. Corn syrop is banned in EU for formula use.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sweeteners.
sources of some of these “same” components.
bans on GMO and pesticide use.
more stringent standards on what can be called organic.

There is a difference significant enough to pay extra in my view. Our food supply in the US is inferior thanks to FDA, grandfathering of some older harmful substances when new regulations are adopted and most of all corporations who are allowed to participate in the political process and have religious feelings.

The magical invisible hand of markets results in corn syrup in a newborns’ formula. No thanks.

Thank you, PP. exactly my reasons for using HIPP.

OP or PP who said there is not difference in ingredients. Did you even compare yourself? I just ran the list and a couple of pretty bad ingredients stood out immediately in enfamil, and didn't run through the whole list yet.

Which ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ LOL. Are you being serious?

yes. lactose is what makes breast milk sweet. Hipp and Holle have lactose as a sweetener. US formulas use sugar and corn syrup.

Please review the Holle ingredients list. Honestly, this thread makes me weep for America.

Sugar in Holle comes from lactose. Corn syrop is banned in EU for formula use.

LOL. It has maltodextrin in it. You all are just too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

Infant milk allergies are to the proteins, not the sugars. It's very rare to have a lactose intolerant infant.

Soooo...
Skimmed milk, whey powder, whey protein, organic polysaccharides from lactose don’t contain / aren’t milk proteins?

[Anonymous]

I used Holle. I’m European so I just felt more confortable with a European brand.