European formulas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

I’m guessing you haven’t done much science, in terms of, chemistry or physiology? Because you can call the same things different things, but they’re the same thing once your body digests them.

I'm guessing you're a know it all. Because you're hung up on this PP. Again get a life. No one cares.

obviously, you care.

[Anonymous]

https://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/07/what-does-organic-mean-for-baby-formula/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

HIPP ingredients:

Organic Skimmed Milk, Organic Whey Powder (partially demineralised), Organic Vegetable Oils (Organic Palm Oil*, Organic Rapeseed Oil, Organic Sunflower Oil), Organic Lactose, Fibre (Galacto-Oligosaccharides from Lactose), Whey Protein, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Chloride, LCP1 Oils (Fish Oil, Vegetable Oil from Mortierella Alpina), L-Phenylalanine, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Sulphate, Calcium Orthophosphate, Vitamin Mix [Vitamin C, Vitamin A, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Vitamin B6, Pantothenic Acid, Niacin, Vitamin E, Folic Acid, Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Biotin, Vitamin B12], L-Tryptophan, Iron Sulphate, Zinc Sulphate, Stabiliser (Lactic Acid), Inositol, Copper Sulphate, Potassium Iodate, Manganese Sulphate, Sodium Selenate, *From Sustainable Organic production, 1 Long-chain Polyunsaturates

Similac Organic ingredients:

Organic Nonfat Milk, Organic Maltodextrin, Organic Sugar, Organic High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Organic Soy Oil, Organic Coconut Oil. Less than 2% of: C. Cohnii Oil, M. Alpina Oil, Beta-Carotene, Lutein, Lycopene, Fructooligosaccharides, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Ascorbic Acid, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ferrous Sulfate, Salt, Choline Chloride, Choline Bitartrate, Taurine, m-Inositol, Magnesium Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, d-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Sulfate, Thiamine Chloride Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Cyanocobalamin, Potassium Iodide, Potassium Hydroxide, and Nucleotides (Cytidine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5’-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5’-Monophosphate).

Which ones do you object to in the Similac Organic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

HIPP ingredients:

Organic Skimmed Milk, Organic Whey Powder (partially demineralised), Organic Vegetable Oils (Organic Palm Oil*, Organic Rapeseed Oil, Organic Sunflower Oil), Organic Lactose, Fibre (Galacto-Oligosaccharides from Lactose), Whey Protein, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Chloride, LCP1 Oils (Fish Oil, Vegetable Oil from Mortierella Alpina), L-Phenylalanine, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Sulphate, Calcium Orthophosphate, Vitamin Mix [Vitamin C, Vitamin A, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Vitamin B6, Pantothenic Acid, Niacin, Vitamin E, Folic Acid, Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Biotin, Vitamin B12], L-Tryptophan, Iron Sulphate, Zinc Sulphate, Stabiliser (Lactic Acid), Inositol, Copper Sulphate, Potassium Iodate, Manganese Sulphate, Sodium Selenate, *From Sustainable Organic production, 1 Long-chain Polyunsaturates

Similac Organic ingredients:

Organic Nonfat Milk, Organic Maltodextrin, Organic Sugar, Organic High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Organic Soy Oil, Organic Coconut Oil. Less than 2% of: C. Cohnii Oil, M. Alpina Oil, Beta-Carotene, Lutein, Lycopene, Fructooligosaccharides, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Ascorbic Acid, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ferrous Sulfate, Salt, Choline Chloride, Choline Bitartrate, Taurine, m-Inositol, Magnesium Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, d-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Sulfate, Thiamine Chloride Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Cyanocobalamin, Potassium Iodide, Potassium Hydroxide, and Nucleotides (Cytidine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5’-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5’-Monophosphate).

Which ones do you object to in the Similac Organic?

Pp again get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

Which regulations? Be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

HIPP ingredients:

Organic Skimmed Milk, Organic Whey Powder (partially demineralised), Organic Vegetable Oils (Organic Palm Oil*, Organic Rapeseed Oil, Organic Sunflower Oil), Organic Lactose, Fibre (Galacto-Oligosaccharides from Lactose), Whey Protein, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Chloride, LCP1 Oils (Fish Oil, Vegetable Oil from Mortierella Alpina), L-Phenylalanine, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Sulphate, Calcium Orthophosphate, Vitamin Mix [Vitamin C, Vitamin A, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Vitamin B6, Pantothenic Acid, Niacin, Vitamin E, Folic Acid, Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Biotin, Vitamin B12], L-Tryptophan, Iron Sulphate, Zinc Sulphate, Stabiliser (Lactic Acid), Inositol, Copper Sulphate, Potassium Iodate, Manganese Sulphate, Sodium Selenate, *From Sustainable Organic production, 1 Long-chain Polyunsaturates

Similac Organic ingredients:

Organic Nonfat Milk, Organic Maltodextrin, Organic Sugar, Organic High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Organic Soy Oil, Organic Coconut Oil. Less than 2% of: C. Cohnii Oil, M. Alpina Oil, Beta-Carotene, Lutein, Lycopene, Fructooligosaccharides, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Ascorbic Acid, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ferrous Sulfate, Salt, Choline Chloride, Choline Bitartrate, Taurine, m-Inositol, Magnesium Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, d-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Sulfate, Thiamine Chloride Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Cyanocobalamin, Potassium Iodide, Potassium Hydroxide, and Nucleotides (Cytidine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5’-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5’-Monophosphate).

Which ones do you object to in the Similac Organic?

Pp again get a life.

ok, so I see you have no answers!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had a coworker who was super proud of the fact she used HiPP instead of a grocery store brand.

I never had the heart to tell her that every grocery store and drug store (not pharmacy) in Germany sold HiPP.

Formula is pretty tightly regulated, as it’s a milk replacement, whether in the EU or North America, or whatever. Ingredient labelling is different, and that’s kind of the key issue.

It has different ingredients. It’s not about grocery stores. EU has stricter regulations.

HIPP ingredients:

Organic Skimmed Milk, Organic Whey Powder (partially demineralised), Organic Vegetable Oils (Organic Palm Oil*, Organic Rapeseed Oil, Organic Sunflower Oil), Organic Lactose, Fibre (Galacto-Oligosaccharides from Lactose), Whey Protein, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Chloride, LCP1 Oils (Fish Oil, Vegetable Oil from Mortierella Alpina), L-Phenylalanine, Sodium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Magnesium Sulphate, Calcium Orthophosphate, Vitamin Mix [Vitamin C, Vitamin A, Thiamin (Vitamin B1), Vitamin B6, Pantothenic Acid, Niacin, Vitamin E, Folic Acid, Vitamin K, Vitamin D, Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Biotin, Vitamin B12], L-Tryptophan, Iron Sulphate, Zinc Sulphate, Stabiliser (Lactic Acid), Inositol, Copper Sulphate, Potassium Iodate, Manganese Sulphate, Sodium Selenate, *From Sustainable Organic production, 1 Long-chain Polyunsaturates

Similac Organic ingredients:

Organic Nonfat Milk, Organic Maltodextrin, Organic Sugar, Organic High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Organic Soy Oil, Organic Coconut Oil. Less than 2% of: C. Cohnii Oil, M. Alpina Oil, Beta-Carotene, Lutein, Lycopene, Fructooligosaccharides, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Ascorbic Acid, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Ferrous Sulfate, Salt, Choline Chloride, Choline Bitartrate, Taurine, m-Inositol, Magnesium Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, Mixed Tocopherols, d-Alpha-Tocopheryl Acetate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, L-Carnitine, Vitamin A Palmitate, Cupric Sulfate, Thiamine Chloride Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Manganese Sulfate, Phylloquinone, Biotin, Sodium Selenate, Vitamin D3, Cyanocobalamin, Potassium Iodide, Potassium Hydroxide, and Nucleotides (Cytidine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5’-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5’-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5’-Monophosphate).

Which ones do you object to in the Similac Organic?

Pp again get a life.

ok, so I see you have no answers!

Starting with sugar.
But seriously, you do you.

[Anonymous]

^ LOL. Are you being serious?

[Anonymous]

I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

[Anonymous]

After reading this whole thread I have one takeaway - can we all cut it out with calling other women/moms stupid and dumb? Everyone is trying to do the best for their kid. Every mom grapples with tough decisions. No one is perfect.

I hate that forums like this, that are meant to be a place to ask advice and find a semblance of a community, become places for us to spit criticisms at each other.

[Anonymous]

I just came back to this thread again and I’m shocked this was such a hot button issue. I already fed two kids non-organic non-European formula, but was just genuinely curious if there was a concern about the shipping. Thanks to those of you who answered with helpful info.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the article and what others have said. I ended up using Baby's Only as I felt it was the best brand I could purchase in the US. From a non-scientific standpoint, I noticed a big difference between other formulas I tried (Gerber, Enfamil, Similac) and Baby's Only, Holle and HIPP. The latter brands just actually smelled like milk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

[Anonymous]

Starting 2020 Holle will be available in the US. So people claiming shady distribution no longer have that mud to sling. I am sure at that point there will still be insults such as more expensive formula doesn’t mean better. If others want to spend money on organic formula what beef do you have with it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used Hipp formula with my second baby for about 3.5 months until I had to switch her to a hypoallergenic formula due to a milk protein allergy. I was very happy with it and chose the formula for a couple reasons. First, it contains pre and probiotics which I am a huge fan on. Second, it uses lactose as it’s sweetener instead of corn syrup and corn syrup solids which a lot of US brands use. Lastly, it does not stain clothing and bibs the way Enfamil and Similac do in my opinion. I wish we could have stayed on it, and I guess we could have tried their HA version, but I just needed to do what’s best for my baby and from what I understand Hipp HA and Comfort don’t have milk proteins that are as broken down as the US HA formulas.

My older daughter was on both Enfamil and Similac and is super healthy and smart so I doubt using a European formula would have made any difference there.

I always ordered from reputable distributors and never had any issues, so I was not worried about tampering or contamination (everything was always sealed and arrived in good condition).

So to each their own. Try it if you want. Happy to answer other questions.

This fascinating to me.

If she had a milk allergy, it’s also interesting you liked lactose as a sweetener.

Also, Point to the pre and pro biotics on the ingredient list.

DP. The fructooligosaccharides in the Enfamil are probiotics.