Virginia Tech offering incoming freshman $1000 not to come

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Thank you PP for answering about com sci and even game design. DS is interested in both of those, so it is good to know what the expectations are while he can still fulfill them.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this deal is only being offered to engineering, bio and university studies majors.

What is “university studies”?

It's the "undeclared" major

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this deal is only being offered to engineering, bio and university studies majors.

What is “university studies”?

Usually it means a "customized" major where you combine several study areas for your Univ Studies degree. Things like Biology + Psych + phisiology b/c you want to go into Physical Therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this deal is only being offered to engineering, bio and university studies majors.

What is “university studies”?

Usually it means a "customized" major where you combine several study areas for your Univ Studies degree. Things like Biology + Psych + phisiology b/c you want to go into Physical Therapy.

No, you’re undeclared.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

And, not true either. There is a lottery to live in the dorms after freshman year. Also, some LLC's require a two year commitment. (I will acknowledge that most do move off campus after first year which is not atypical of many larger public universities.)

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

Not at VT..dorms are for freshman only.

Oh, wow, that's crazy. When did the dorms become freshman only?

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And, not true either. There is a lottery to live in the dorms after freshman year. Also, some LLC's require a two year commitment. (I will acknowledge that most do move off campus after first year which is not atypical of many larger public universities.)

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Anonymous wrote:And, not true either. There is a lottery to live in the dorms after freshman year. Also, some LLC's require a two year commitment. (I will acknowledge that most do move off campus after first year which is not atypical of many larger public universities.)

Even back in the day it was fashionable to move off campus after freshman or sophomore year. I stayed all 4 years in the dorms because it was more affordable. Most of the kids who lived off campus had cars at school. I didn't.

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Anonymous wrote:And, not true either. There is a lottery to live in the dorms after freshman year. Also, some LLC's require a two year commitment. (I will acknowledge that most do move off campus after first year which is not atypical of many larger public universities.)

Even back in the day it was fashionable to move off campus after freshman or sophomore year. I stayed all 4 years in the dorms because it was more affordable. Most of the kids who lived off campus had cars at school. I didn't.

We all moved off campus after freshmen year. The apartment complexes are full of students, so it's still very dorm like, just with way fewer rules .

God I love Blacksburg. I'd love to be going back even if it meant sharing my tiny dorm room with TWO weirdos instead of just 1. It was such a fantastic time in my life.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, for computer engineering, computer science, and game design, you need as much calculus, coding and computer math classes you can muster.

NP here. Follow-up question. What are "computer math" classes?

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Anonymous wrote:And, not true either. There is a lottery to live in the dorms after freshman year. Also, some LLC's require a two year commitment. (I will acknowledge that most do move off campus after first year which is not atypical of many larger public universities.)

Even back in the day it was fashionable to move off campus after freshman or sophomore year. I stayed all 4 years in the dorms because it was more affordable. Most of the kids who lived off campus had cars at school. I didn't.

We all moved off campus after freshmen year. The apartment complexes are full of students, so it's still very dorm like, just with way fewer rules .

God I love Blacksburg. I'd love to be going back even if it meant sharing my tiny dorm room with TWO weirdos instead of just 1. It was such a fantastic time in my life.

It really was a ton of fun. I feel sort of bummed for the kids who won't be able to experience their entire first year at Tech, though. It sounds as though the Engineering program has gotten insanely competitive. Lots of super smart kids competing for a finite number of spots. I'm sure they will all be successful no matter what they wind up doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, for computer engineering, computer science, and game design, you need as much calculus, coding and computer math classes you can muster.

NP here. Follow-up question. What are "computer math" classes?

I'm the PP whose asked the question about needing calculus in JUNIOR year if you are interested in comp sci.

To answer your question about "computer math" classes, I assume that means computer classes that are part of the HS math department, not the technical education department. In FCPS, these are separate computer tracks. AP Comp Sci A and B and Comp Sci Principles are all part of the math department options. Then there are computer classes offered by technical education/academy classes that involve computer technician skills, CISCO, and network administrator classes. (seems like they would be useful too, but I'm not a computer geek, so I don't really know).

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

Retention rates for community college are pretty lousy all around. I'd worried that if my child hung around for the house for a year taking community college classes, he'd be more likely to fail out than if he was a traditional freshman. Too many distractions, not enough of an academic setting. Hanging around with your high school buddies, playing video games. Recipe for disaster.

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Let's screw over the students we are suppose to be supporting via this tax-payer subsidized university....
VT is encouraging IN_STATE students to defer attendance yet welcomes nearly 4,000 international students (total across the years) with open arms.

How about the university gets its priorities in order and defers the admission of the international students?

Shame on you VT -

Anyone else see misplaced priorities?

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, for computer engineering, computer science, and game design, you need as much calculus, coding and computer math classes you can muster.

NP here. Follow-up question. What are "computer math" classes?

IDK what PP is talking about but when I majored in math the when I took higher level math classes you could only solve the problems with a computer.. you had to program the computer to solve the problem.