Virginia Tech offering incoming freshman $1000 not to come

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

Huh? VTech is better at engineering than UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

Huh? VTech is better at engineering than UVA.

Please stop

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

We were explicitly told by the admissions office at VT four years ago that they want to see calculus finished by end of junior year with an A for engineering admits. If you don't have that, they advised against applying EA, because they would put a hold on the application until they could see the calculus grade (this was before VT offered ED). The competition has only gotten worse. At the engineering open house we were shown the stats. You clearly needed a minimum 4.0 to get in.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t VA Tech hire some fancy consulting firm to help inform their admissions strategy and yield this year?

Perhaps that company is paying for this program.

Yes, the new admissions director hired an outside company to work on acceptance algorithms. The outside consulting firm got it wrong. What you are seeing happen (and this is occuring at all the in-state schools) is that parents are waking up to the fact that they cannot pay $75K-$80K a year for four or five years so the in-state schools are seeing greater acceptance percentiles than ever before. Every Virginia university that I have toured is on a building boom.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t VA Tech hire some fancy consulting firm to help inform their admissions strategy and yield this year?

Perhaps that company is paying for this program.

Yes, the new admissions director hired an outside company to work on acceptance algorithms. The outside consulting firm got it wrong. What you are seeing happen (and this is occuring at all the in-state schools) is that parents are waking up to the fact that they cannot pay $75K-$80K a year for four or five years so the in-state schools are seeing greater acceptance percentiles than ever before. Every Virginia university that I have toured is on a building boom.

Actually, they hired that company last year. This is their second year working with them, per the news articles.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

We were explicitly told by the admissions office at VT four years ago that they want to see calculus finished by end of junior year with an A for engineering admits. If you don't have that, they advised against applying EA, because they would put a hold on the application until they could see the calculus grade (this was before VT offered ED). The competition has only gotten worse. At the engineering open house we were shown the stats. You clearly needed a minimum 4.0 to get in.

Can you or anyone else comment on whether it is imperative to have calculus in Junior year if your child would be a computer science major? I assume computer engineers would need the calculus in junior year (based on what PP stated). But what about com sci?

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Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

Yes. But that's like having the beach trip that you've been planning for and eagerly awaiting postponed until next summer. Sorry, the owner double booked the beach house. Oops! Lolz.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

Not at VT..dorms are for freshman only.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those are creative and appealing offers- saves a significant amount of a 4 year degree.

$1000/year is a significant savings? Tuition is $23,000.

The community college credit would save quite a bit of money.

so does just going to community college... they should offer special housing. The point is to make friends and connections.

They would attend community college for a year, get transfer credit for the classes AND they would get credit in the amount spent on the community college off of their sophomore year tuition at Tech.

That is a good deal.

For parents. Not for the kids who want the freshman experience

No, it's a good financial deal for the students who won't be burdened by excessive loans or will have money left over for grad school or another degree. The traditional "freshman experience" at Tech is no longer guaranteed. But a larger number of students will at least get a taste of what it means to be a Hokie.

However, most kids aren't applying to a 4 year school to decide to go to community college for a year, when all of their friends on IG are posting their move-in days. I am not saying the deal isn't good. I am saying parents will want this and the kids will not.

I 110% agree with you. A big part of the college experience is living in the dorms - I totally get that. I know that I would be disappointed if I had worked hard throughout HS, got accepted into a great in state school, chose that school to attend and then was told "Eh, we don't really want you here. Can you live with your parents and go to community college for awhile?"

Financially it is a good deal and it's only for a year. But, yeah, that would be a let down to me, too. I get it.

Dude, you can live in the dorms as a sophomore, too, who's stopping you? You'll still get your 'experience' you seem to be so hung up on, only a year later!

Not at VT..dorms are for freshman only.

Oh, wow, that's crazy. When did the dorms become freshman only?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like this deal is only being offered to engineering, bio and university studies majors.

What is “university studies”?

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Anonymous wrote:From the head of Virginia Tech’s Aerospace Engineering Department on Twitter:

“While some schools struggle with enrollment, we have the opposite problem at Virginia Tech.Target freshman enrollment in Engineering was 2060, but 2700 have accepted for Fall 2019 with 350 wanting Aerospace Engineering.”

As other schools get a lot harder to get into (UMCP, UVA) any okay students that want engineering will go to VT. That is why it is more of a weed-out school. You can't expect kids without calculus to get into engineering school and for some reason VT accepts them.

We were explicitly told by the admissions office at VT four years ago that they want to see calculus finished by end of junior year with an A for engineering admits. If you don't have that, they advised against applying EA, because they would put a hold on the application until they could see the calculus grade (this was before VT offered ED). The competition has only gotten worse. At the engineering open house we were shown the stats. You clearly needed a minimum 4.0 to get in.

Can you or anyone else comment on whether it is imperative to have calculus in Junior year if your child would be a computer science major? I assume computer engineers would need the calculus in junior year (based on what PP stated). But what about com sci?

Yes, for computer engineering, computer science, and game design, you need as much calculus, coding and computer math classes you can muster.