And you sound like one of those people who make their entire lives about their kids, who has no independent identity, and subordinates her desires to the needs of "the family." I don't think it's selfish to vacation with a spouse, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it is. But I would still rather be "selfish" in that way than live the life you're describing. You do what works for you, though. |
Can you recommend your travel group for solo travel? |
I think you may mean that those families that have the grandparents/nannies/family members who will watch the kids do both, which I agree with. I don't think there are many families whose only vacations in a single year are without their kids! |
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Remember your honeymoon?
Sex and sleeping whenever, eating leisurely meals without cutting up anyone else’s food, bedtime late or early S you want it. Long showers. Quiet when you want it, uninterrupted adult conversation when you want it. Reconnecting with yourself as an individual, and your spouse as your spouse. Some of us get that total sacrifice of yourself as a person and the two of you as a couple is not needed to be a good parent. |
| Because at this stage of life, vacationing with little kids is basically exactly the same as being at home with little kids, except you are in a strange place where their routine is disrupted and sleep goes to total sh*t. Maybe it’s different for parents with easy going kids, but mine do not adjust well. It is more exhausting than enjoyable. Maybe that’ll change when they are older but right now I come hole feeling like I need a vacation from my vacation. |
| To help facilitate your sanity and marriage. Do it! |
Newaflash, they act like that because you rarely take them anywhere. We started vacations when our kids were 3 months olds. They learned it from a young age. |
We do lots of stuff alone. We dont need to leave our kids for a week to do things. |
Nope. My kids are 20 and 18 now . We have a very strong marriage. Napa is not a necessity and is selfish. I would save that for when the kids are grown. Do you know delayed gratification? Do you always put yourself first? You can manage without Napa. |
Some people do it to escape kids. They have poor coping. |
| I love our trips together as a family and also love our vacations together without the kids. We are lucky to be able to do both and to have grandparents who value the bonding time with the kids without us parents around. But if you don’t want to or can’t do that OP, that’s on you. And I couldn’t care less. |
My spouse and I coped very well with dealing on facts/situations/schooling/medical care/family interactions with our kids. I do think more private time between we adults would have been wiser. There is a big difference between child(ren) relationships and parents and wife/husband relationships. The OP raises a very inciteful question. |
I see, so parents should only do things apart from their kids with it is necessary? Never just because they want to? Anything that is just a "want" should be delayed? Also, please explain the selfish to me. DO you think kids need to be with their all the time? Do you think a child is harmed by staying with someone else - a grandparent, friends, another relative - for a week? Seriously, what is the basis for the thought that this is selfish. It seems like the entire basis for this is that the children are somehow harmed by the parents taking a vacation by themselves. But, no one can describe what that harm is. Can you? |
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Do you have kids, OP?
Kids are a wonderful blessing, but also require a tremendous amount of work and attention. Sometimes I just want to say drink and nap and sleep in and have leisurely meals with my husband. Not happening with my kids around! |
| We don't just do adults only anniversary trips. We've also done a mother-daughter trip to Paris, my husband has gone away with just the boys to a waterpark, I'm planning a mother-son long getaway with my oldest to the desert. Judge away! Sometimes we vacation as a whole family and sometimes we don't. It's all bonding and its all fun. |