The Gun Controlled Nazi's Called Out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

NP. I support both. I carry a gun every day, but I have extensive training. If you want to buy a handgun, some level of training should be required.

What about a mandatory, rigorous and comprehensive mental health screening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

The 20,000 laws on the books most likely address your issues above. As for "universal background checks" one has to balance state rights with the over-reach of the federal government which the founders saw as the biggest impediment at the beginning of this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

The 20,000 laws on the books most likely address your issues above. As for "universal background checks" one has to balance state rights with the over-reach of the federal government which the founders saw as the biggest impediment at the beginning of this country.

So that is a 'no' and a 'no'?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

The 20,000 laws on the books most likely address your issues above. As for "universal background checks" one has to balance state rights with the over-reach of the federal government which the founders saw as the biggest impediment at the beginning of this country.

No, that hasn't already been addressed by law and the problem with leaving it up to states' rights is that the state with the weakest laws will be the weak link. That's why stiff gun control laws in Chicago don't work, because neighboring Indiana has very lax gun laws and you can still buy a gun there from a private seller at a gun show with zero paperwork or background check. States' rights is what causes the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

Nonstarter?
I've used plenty of non-semi-auto guns. If you can't do things like hunt or target shoot with a bolt action then you probably shouldn't own a gun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

NP. I support both. I carry a gun every day, but I have extensive training. If you want to buy a handgun, some level of training should be required.

What about a mandatory, rigorous and comprehensive mental health screening?

Nothing but crickets chirping on this one. As expected. Goes to show that 2A advocates are being completely disingenuous when they try and deflect and say the issue isn't guns but mental health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

Nonstarter?
I've used plenty of non-semi-auto guns. If you can't do things like hunt or target shoot with a bolt action then you probably shouldn't own a gun.

I'm actually a fairly serious amateur competition shooter. I'm not sponsored, but I'm ranked nationally. My sport (Three Gun) doesn't even recognize non-semiauto guns for competition. A semiautomatic handgun, rifle, and shotgun are the basis for the entire event.

You sound quite judgey, telling others what they shouldn't do. Other gun owners aren't advocating that your Purdy over and under or Sako benchrest rifle be taken away, so how'sabout you extend some of that same courtesy to your fellow shooters, huh Elmer Fudd?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kid who perpetrated this crime took his parents gun, which was lawfully bought and most likely went through a background check. The universal check "nuts" fail to realize that their demand for a background check would not prevent this murderer from committing a crime.

1) do you support a universal background check?

2) do you support stiff penalties for people who do not secure their guns properly? Such as in this tragedy.

Still waiting on these.

NP. I support both. I carry a gun every day, but I have extensive training. If you want to buy a handgun, some level of training should be required.

What about a mandatory, rigorous and comprehensive mental health screening?

Nothing but crickets chirping on this one. As expected. Goes to show that 2A advocates are being completely disingenuous when they try and deflect and say the issue isn't guns but mental health.

Let me guess- this is how your "screening" would go:


"You need to prove you're not insane in order to be able to purchase a gun".

Ok cool. What's the screening criteria?

"Well, among other things, anyone who wants to buy a gun, is insane".


So, i can only have a gun if you say I'm not insane... but wanting to own a gun is proof I'm insane?


"Yes! No gun for you!"






That's about how we'd expect your mental health screenings to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

Nonstarter?
I've used plenty of non-semi-auto guns. If you can't do things like hunt or target shoot with a bolt action then you probably shouldn't own a gun.

I'm actually a fairly serious amateur competition shooter. I'm not sponsored, but I'm ranked nationally. My sport (Three Gun) doesn't even recognize non-semiauto guns for competition. A semiautomatic handgun, rifle, and shotgun are the basis for the entire event.

You sound quite judgey, telling others what they shouldn't do. Other gun owners aren't advocating that your Purdy over and under or Sako benchrest rifle be taken away, so how'sabout you extend some of that same courtesy to your fellow shooters, huh Elmer Fudd?

Oh no. You might have to get a slightly different hobby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

Nonstarter?
I've used plenty of non-semi-auto guns. If you can't do things like hunt or target shoot with a bolt action then you probably shouldn't own a gun.

I'm actually a fairly serious amateur competition shooter. I'm not sponsored, but I'm ranked nationally. My sport (Three Gun) doesn't even recognize non-semiauto guns for competition. A semiautomatic handgun, rifle, and shotgun are the basis for the entire event.

You sound quite judgey, telling others what they shouldn't do. Other gun owners aren't advocating that your Purdy over and under or Sako benchrest rifle be taken away, so how'sabout you extend some of that same courtesy to your fellow shooters, huh Elmer Fudd?

LOL, another so-called "sport" invented by the gun industry to sell more guns.

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but gun policy should not be dictated by the “needs” of people who choose to use a mass killing machine for sport.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When all you have is a hammer - everything you see is a nail.

This is pretty much the gun control fanatics. It doesn't matter what the circumstances are when a nut shoots innocent people. It could be a terrorist - a mentally unstable person - a white supremacist - a left wing nut job - it doesn't matter. Their "go to" narrative is gun control. Enact more laws! Ban certain weapons! Limit ammunition!

My question is - aside from confiscating all guns - handguns, rifles, long guns - all of them - what could have been done to prevent these two crazy people from shooting at this school? What additional laws would have helped?
Since they reportedly broke into one of their parent's gun case and stole the guns - what should have been done to prevent this?

1. Ban automatic/semi-automatic weapons - and stop the deflection by gun nuts on exactly what those terms mean. Nobody needs that kind of firepower for hunting or self protection. That might at least help cut down on mass shootings.
2. Require serious background checks. If you want to buy a device whose only purpose is killing, then you should be willing to be thoroughly investigated to determine if you are a danger to other people. I don’t give a damn if it temporarily inconveniences gun owners.
3. Require that gun owners secure their guns, and implement severe penalties for those who don’t. Parents who don’t adequately secure their guns that are then used by their offspring to kill should be charged with murder.
4. Stop the glorification of guns in our culture. Kids in a movie theater should not be able to ‘play with’ fake automatic weapons in an arcade. That is just sick.
5. Not that the gun nuts really care about this, but start addressing the serious mental health issues that we have in this country, especially with young people.

I'm a gun owner. Totally agree with all this.

Another gun owner, ok with everything except item 1.

Semiautomatic guns account for about 75% of all firearms. That's a total nonstarter.

The other stuff? Sure.

Nonstarter?
I've used plenty of non-semi-auto guns. If you can't do things like hunt or target shoot with a bolt action then you probably shouldn't own a gun.

I'm actually a fairly serious amateur competition shooter. I'm not sponsored, but I'm ranked nationally. My sport (Three Gun) doesn't even recognize non-semiauto guns for competition. A semiautomatic handgun, rifle, and shotgun are the basis for the entire event.

You sound quite judgey, telling others what they shouldn't do. Other gun owners aren't advocating that your Purdy over and under or Sako benchrest rifle be taken away, so how'sabout you extend some of that same courtesy to your fellow shooters, huh Elmer Fudd?

LOL! Three Gun. Those are the kinds of dudes you could sell an old wheelbarrow to by painting it black and calling it "tactical."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but gun policy should not be dictated by the “needs” of people who choose to use a mass killing machine for sport.

Sport shooting isn't a need, it's a want. The true need is for kids to not be getting shot. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is dictated by the Constitution and was in there before the 2nd Amendment was added. It should take precedence.