Impeachment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The third Article of Impeachment against Richard Nixon charged him with failing "without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives."

- Bill Kristol

The Never Trumper, Bill Kristol has spoken!

This is the same guy who played a key role in promoting Sarah Palin as VP nominee for McCain!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The third Article of Impeachment against Richard Nixon charged him with failing "without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives."

- Bill Kristol

The Never Trumper, Bill Kristol has spoken!

This is the same guy who played a key role in promoting Sarah Palin as VP nominee for McCain!

Ah yes, attack those who disagree with Trump. What about this guy who worked for the Trump transition team and is a law professor at the Scalia school who also thinks Trump should be impeached?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The third Article of Impeachment against Richard Nixon charged him with failing "without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives."

- Bill Kristol

The Never Trumper, Bill Kristol has spoken!

This is the same guy who played a key role in promoting Sarah Palin as VP nominee for McCain!

Ah yes, attack those who disagree with Trump. What about this guy who worked for the Trump transition team and is a law professor at the Scalia school who also thinks Trump should be impeached?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/

LOL. They attacked George Conway as a Never Trumper too. He's married to Kellyanne and voted for Trump. And he also thinks Trump's behavior is worthy of impeachment.

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/theres-a-bigger-prize-than-impeachment.html?fallback=0&recId=1KINTKZO0yi0DlBxVyeERrS6VjP&locked=0&geoContinent=NA&geoRegion=DC&recAlloc=top_conversion&geoCountry=US&blockId=most-popular&imp_id=381400069&action=click&module=Most%20Popular&pgtype=Homepage

Impeaching Bill Clinton was wholly a political decision; the substance mattered little in 1998. Two decades later, Democrats face almost the exact opposite dynamics.

For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.

Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.

What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.

Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.

We’re not quite there yet — but keeping President Trump in office is the best way to cement Trumpism’s hold on the Republican Party.

Republicans themselves know it, and that simple fact is a huge problem for them: By and large they don’t like him, and they know he’s a long-term problem for the party — but in the short term they know they can’t get re-elected without his voters. For Democrats, it’s the dream scenario — as long as he completes his term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The third Article of Impeachment against Richard Nixon charged him with failing "without lawful cause or excuse to produce papers and things as directed by duly authorized subpoenas issued by the Committee on the Judiciary of the House of Representatives."

- Bill Kristol

The Never Trumper, Bill Kristol has spoken!

This is the same guy who played a key role in promoting Sarah Palin as VP nominee for McCain!

Ah yes, attack those who disagree with Trump. What about this guy who worked for the Trump transition team and is a law professor at the Scalia school who also thinks Trump should be impeached?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/gop-staffer-advocates-trumps-impeachment/587785/

He has more credibility for sure compared to Kristol - who is a joke. Kristol is a neocon who was one of the chief advocates for invading Iraq.

Who are we going to cite next as being opposed to Trump or calling for his impeachment? Kasich? Boot?

FWIW, I did not vote for Trump and I think he is a despicable person but impeachment is futile unless it is a bipartisan effort in Congress. The way to deal with Trump is to defeat him in 2020 and not to indulge in idiotic measures that will not go anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/theres-a-bigger-prize-than-impeachment.html?fallback=0&recId=1KINTKZO0yi0DlBxVyeERrS6VjP&locked=0&geoContinent=NA&geoRegion=DC&recAlloc=top_conversion&geoCountry=US&blockId=most-popular&imp_id=381400069&action=click&module=Most%20Popular&pgtype=Homepage

Impeaching Bill Clinton was wholly a political decision; the substance mattered little in 1998. Two decades later, Democrats face almost the exact opposite dynamics.

For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.

Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.

What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.

Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.

We’re not quite there yet — but keeping President Trump in office is the best way to cement Trumpism’s hold on the Republican Party.

Republicans themselves know it, and that simple fact is a huge problem for them: By and large they don’t like him, and they know he’s a long-term problem for the party — but in the short term they know they can’t get re-elected without his voters. For Democrats, it’s the dream scenario — as long as he completes his term.

All these Democrats who think it's such a clever political strategy to NOT impeach Trump are the same people who never in a million years thought Trump would be elected. In other words, they haven't a clue.

Lockhart says: "Democrats risk the kind of overreach that doomed the Republicans 20 years ago." Oh, you mean the overreach that got George W. Bush elected?

Lockhart also says: "President Trump should be impeached because he is unfit for the presidency. He represents a clear and present danger to our national security." So you're willing to just let the next almost two years go by with a President who may our greatest danger to national security?

Trump no longer has anyone around him who will curb his worst, authoritarian impulses. He and his administration have decided to completely ignore Congress' power of oversight - how soon before he ignores the courts too?

And do really think that, even if he does lose the election in 2020, he will leave the White House?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/22/opinion/theres-a-bigger-prize-than-impeachment.html?fallback=0&recId=1KINTKZO0yi0DlBxVyeERrS6VjP&locked=0&geoContinent=NA&geoRegion=DC&recAlloc=top_conversion&geoCountry=US&blockId=most-popular&imp_id=381400069&action=click&module=Most%20Popular&pgtype=Homepage

Impeaching Bill Clinton was wholly a political decision; the substance mattered little in 1998. Two decades later, Democrats face almost the exact opposite dynamics.

For Democrats, leaving Donald Trump in office is not only good politics — it is the best chance for fundamental realignment of American politics in more than a generation. Mr. Trump is three years into destroying what we know as the Republican Party. Another two years just might finish it off. Trumpism has become Republicanism, and that spells electoral doom for the party.

Mr. Trump has abandoned most of the core principles that have defined Republicans for the past century. Free trade abandoned for protectionism. Challenging our adversaries and promoting democracy replaced by coddling Russia and cozying up to dictators near and far. Fiscal conservatism replaced by reckless spending and exploding deficits.

What’s left of the party is a rigid adherence to tax cuts, a social agenda that repels most younger Americans and rampant xenophobia and race-based politics that regularly interfere with the basic functioning of the federal government.

Republicans today are the party of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson — a coalition that, in the face of every demographic trend in America, will mean the long-term realignment of the federal government behind the Democrats.

We’re not quite there yet — but keeping President Trump in office is the best way to cement Trumpism’s hold on the Republican Party.

Republicans themselves know it, and that simple fact is a huge problem for them: By and large they don’t like him, and they know he’s a long-term problem for the party — but in the short term they know they can’t get re-elected without his voters. For Democrats, it’s the dream scenario — as long as he completes his term.

This is so true! But I’m not so sure about the last line. Why just if he completes his term?

When people say that impeachment is political suicide for dems they are comparing it to the Clinton impeachment. That was different. It was a consensual affair. It was a marriage issue, not an American issue. Yes, he lied about it, but that’s pretty minor compared to a day in the life of Trump. The fact that it was such a huge issue at the time should indicate just how far we’ve sunk as a nation. At this point, it’s pretty much impossible to claim that Trump is not a crook who is harming our democracy. If democrats don’t act in this, they will be seen as weak and not doing their job. That would be more politically harmful.

[Anonymous]

Unpresidented. Dragging the Supreme Court down with him.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440358-trump-says-he-would-challenge-impeachment-in-supreme-court

President Trump on Wednesday said that he would attempt to challenge impeachment in the Supreme Court if Democrats carried out such proceedings, though it's unclear the high court would hear such a case.

"The Mueller Report, despite being written by Angry Democrats and Trump Haters, and with unlimited money behind it ($35,000,000), didn’t lay a glove on me. I DID NOTHING WRONG," Trump tweeted.

"If the partisan Dems ever tried to Impeach, I would first head to the U.S. Supreme Court. Not only are there no 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors,' there are no Crimes by me at all," he continued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unpresidented. Dragging the Supreme Court down with him.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440358-trump-says-he-would-challenge-impeachment-in-supreme-court

President Trump on Wednesday said that he would attempt to challenge impeachment in the Supreme Court if Democrats carried out such proceedings, though it's unclear the high court would hear such a case.

"The Mueller Report, despite being written by Angry Democrats and Trump Haters, and with unlimited money behind it ($35,000,000), didn’t lay a glove on me. I DID NOTHING WRONG," Trump tweeted.

"If the partisan Dems ever tried to Impeach, I would first head to the U.S. Supreme Court. Not only are there no 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors,' there are no Crimes by me at all," he continued.

Another one of the numerous instances whereby Trump exposes his absolute ignorance of how our government works and the impeachment process. One legal expert referred to the President's latest comments as "pure idiocy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpresidented. Dragging the Supreme Court down with him.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440358-trump-says-he-would-challenge-impeachment-in-supreme-court

President Trump on Wednesday said that he would attempt to challenge impeachment in the Supreme Court if Democrats carried out such proceedings, though it's unclear the high court would hear such a case.

"The Mueller Report, despite being written by Angry Democrats and Trump Haters, and with unlimited money behind it ($35,000,000), didn’t lay a glove on me. I DID NOTHING WRONG," Trump tweeted.

"If the partisan Dems ever tried to Impeach, I would first head to the U.S. Supreme Court. Not only are there no 'High Crimes and Misdemeanors,' there are no Crimes by me at all," he continued.

Another one of the numerous instances whereby Trump exposes his absolute ignorance of how our government works and the impeachment process. One legal expert referred to the President's latest comments as "pure idiocy."

+1

Trump could “head to the U.S. Supreme Court,” but there’s literally nothing justices could do for him, even if they wanted to. The judiciary has no authority to help or hinder the impeachment proceedings.

The president doesn’t know that, and while that’s embarrassing, he nevertheless seems eager to let everyone know just how confused he is.

In the process, Trump is also offering a peek into his perspective on problem-solving. When he finds himself in a jam, the president seems to instinctively look for a fixer: Trump has spent his tenure assuming that everyone from his attorney general to his congressional allies to his White House counsel can simply make his problems go away for him.

As of this morning, the president seems to think the Supreme Court can even rescue him from the threat of impeachment.

It cannot.

[Anonymous]

But...but... Gorsuch and Kavanaugh HAVE to stop it! They OWE me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But...but... Gorsuch and Kavanaugh HAVE to stop it! They OWE me!

It worked with Bill Barr.

[Anonymous]

They aren’t going to impeach him. Nor should they. He should lose the next election then be carted off to prison with his loser children.

[Anonymous]

LOL. You are all insane. After the Mueller report, there is less of a case than ever for impeachment. How have you all wound yourselves up like this? Every time I read one of these threads I wonder how on Earth there are people walking around with thoughts like these in their heads. Are any of you employed, or do you mostly stay in assisted living facilities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LOL. You are all insane. After the Mueller report, there is less of a case than ever for impeachment. How have you all wound yourselves up like this? Every time I read one of these threads I wonder how on Earth there are people walking around with thoughts like these in their heads. Are any of you employed, or do you mostly stay in assisted living facilities?

And here you are waving away the idiocy of your president saying he would "go to the Supreme Court" if the House decided to start impeachment hearings. To do WHAT, exactly? Why don't you explain your dear leader's stupidity so we can all understand what he and you think will happen by him "going to the Supreme Court"?