How does MCPS determine race/ethnicity?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is their an advantage to choosing a particular race?

School gets special treatment if a high number of blacks and/or hispanics. The Equitability Accountability study has 5 certain areas of focus, and the only groups (I won't use "minority" since Hispanic students outnumber all groups including whites at MCPS) to get special treatment even if non-FARMS are black and hispanic.

Citation please, with specifics about the "special treatment".

There’s no special treatment. PP is trolling.

Then why do they track this data?
There is a massive advantage to checking the Black box for college admissions, so maybe it's smart to check the same box when your kid is in high school.

Which gets you annual fed funds so you can further mismanage your budget

Because they're following federal requirements.

...in order to qualify for federal programs.

No, in order to comply with federal requirements.

[Anonymous]

In order to receive fed funds and further mismanage your annual budgets doing pet projects

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

So what are they doing for whites and Asians Non-Farms so they are being appropriately challenged?
Where’s the special long term study in serving those needs?

Nobody cares about those students! This is MCPS. Those non-Farms kids will take care of themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In order to receive fed funds and further mismanage your annual budgets doing pet projects

+100

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Iran and the middle eastern countries are part of the Asian continent. How do they even classify themselves as white?

And to the pp who asked if Indian people are white. No, we are not. We are brown. The few light skinned Indians you may have seen are just that - a few. Most of us are brown skinned.

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Those of us from the warmer south (it is either hot or warm throughout the year) generally tend to have darker skin tone than those from the north, but generally speaking it is pretty difficult to mistake even someone from the North for a caucasian! May be the PP ran into an Anglo-indian - folks who have Indian and British ancestry!

Well, now you’re in the US.

And MCPS categorizes you in the White and Asian category, so as far as MCPS is concerned, your kid is White.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

If you are White/Asian then low income doesn't matter? Either I am reading it wrong or this 5 brackets seems weird to me.

It is weird. And insane. And ridiculous. And a ginormous waste of money, when our schools are understaffed and overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

If you are White/Asian then low income doesn't matter? Either I am reading it wrong or this 5 brackets seems weird to me.

# three is wrong it should be Other FARMS

On page 2 of the handout pdf it uses NonFARMs, NonURMs as a separate 6th group set aside to calculate each focus groups “discount to the white/Asians (aka achievement gap in math or ela Test).

[Anonymous]

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/learning-journey/MCPS-EOL-EquityAccountabilityModel-ENG(1).pdf

Kicking off a nice long expensive study on the achievement gap, in order to redistribute even more money to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Iran and the middle eastern countries are part of the Asian continent. How do they even classify themselves as white?

And to the pp who asked if Indian people are white. No, we are not. We are brown. The few light skinned Indians you may have seen are just that - a few. Most of us are brown skinned.

+1

Those of us from the warmer south (it is either hot or warm throughout the year) generally tend to have darker skin tone than those from the north, but generally speaking it is pretty difficult to mistake even someone from the North for a caucasian! May be the PP ran into an Anglo-indian - folks who have Indian and British ancestry!

Well, now you’re in the US.

And MCPS categorizes you in the White and Asian category, so as far as MCPS is concerned, your kid is White.

MCPS does not categorize students with a heritage in India as white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

If you are White/Asian then low income doesn't matter? Either I am reading it wrong or this 5 brackets seems weird to me.

# three is wrong it should be Other FARMS

On page 2 of the handout pdf it uses NonFARMs, NonURMs as a separate 6th group set aside to calculate each focus groups “discount to the white/Asians (aka achievement gap in math or ela Test).

I wrote the 1-5 and I made a typo on #3. #3 is low-income, instead of _not_ low-income.

[Anonymous]

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/Equity-Accountability-Model-Achievement.html

Here, back test your ES, MS, HS test results from 2018z

I ran a few huge ESs (ashburton, wood acres) and HSs through (.
I don’t think MCPS is going to like the patterns that emerge. Unless they turn around and sue PARCC or MAP for racism.

And of course, what they aren’t doing is putting down the # of students per focus group or group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/Equity-Accountability-Model-Achievement.html

Here, back test your ES, MS, HS test results from 2018z

I ran a few huge ESs (ashburton, wood acres) and HSs through (.
I don’t think MCPS is going to like the patterns that emerge. Unless they turn around and sue PARCC or MAP for racism.

And of course, what they aren’t doing is putting down the # of students per focus group or group.

What is this score? xx% of FOCUS student met.

Met what? A proficiency bar? Met the scores of the whites and Asians? Total accurate?

The scoring system “score” is not linear or in quartiles or quintiles. It’s a top 10% bucket, then next 20%, then next 20%, then next 15%, and then bottom 35%.
But % of what? A fixed score or relative discount to something else. Can’t tell since non farm non URMs have the same scoring.

[Anonymous]

The model does report White/Asian/Other non-FARMs at the top, and then compares that to the 5 FOCUS sub-groups which are AA non-FARMs, Hispanic non-FARMs, AA FARMs, Hispanic FARMs, and White/Asian/Other FARMs.

The number "score" is based on the percentage of students in that group that met EOL objectives. EOL is "Evidence of Learning" and a meets EOL objectives if they pass in 2/3 categories. The categories are: evaluation by classroom teacher (grades); evaluation by district measures (county-wide end of quarter tests); and evaluation by outside measures (standardized tests).

A student can "pass" the EOL evaluation by meeting standards in the classroom and on district-wide measures even if they fail the standardized test.

At least this is my understanding of how MCPS has set this up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The model does report White/Asian/Other non-FARMs at the top, and then compares that to the 5 FOCUS sub-groups which are AA non-FARMs, Hispanic non-FARMs, AA FARMs, Hispanic FARMs, and White/Asian/Other FARMs.

The number "score" is based on the percentage of students in that group that met EOL objectives. EOL is "Evidence of Learning" and a meets EOL objectives if they pass in 2/3 categories. The categories are: evaluation by classroom teacher (grades); evaluation by district measures (county-wide end of quarter tests); and evaluation by outside measures (standardized tests).

A student can "pass" the EOL evaluation by meeting standards in the classroom and on district-wide measures even if they fail the standardized test.

At least this is my understanding of how MCPS has set this up.

So MCPS now tries to press the schools to grade students based on different standards for different focus groups? I don't think there is anything can be done with the standardized tests. Maybe this is why MCPS only requires 2 out of the 3 measures for the Equity Accountability score. Is this even legal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The model does report White/Asian/Other non-FARMs at the top, and then compares that to the 5 FOCUS sub-groups which are AA non-FARMs, Hispanic non-FARMs, AA FARMs, Hispanic FARMs, and White/Asian/Other FARMs.

The number "score" is based on the percentage of students in that group that met EOL objectives. EOL is "Evidence of Learning" and a meets EOL objectives if they pass in 2/3 categories. The categories are: evaluation by classroom teacher (grades); evaluation by district measures (county-wide end of quarter tests); and evaluation by outside measures (standardized tests).

A student can "pass" the EOL evaluation by meeting standards in the classroom and on district-wide measures even if they fail the standardized test.

At least this is my understanding of how MCPS has set this up.

So MCPS now tries to press the schools to grade students based on different standards for different focus groups? I don't think there is anything can be done with the standardized tests. Maybe this is why MCPS only requires 2 out of the 3 measures for the Equity Accountability score. Is this even legal?

Not true.