How does MCPS determine race/ethnicity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Iran and the middle eastern countries are part of the Asian continent. How do they even classify themselves as white?

And to the pp who asked if Indian people are white. No, we are not. We are brown. The few light skinned Indians you may have seen are just that - a few. Most of us are brown skinned.

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Those of us from the warmer south (it is either hot or warm throughout the year) generally tend to have darker skin tone than those from the north, but generally speaking it is pretty difficult to mistake even someone from the North for a caucasian! May be the PP ran into an Anglo-indian - folks who have Indian and British ancestry!

[Anonymous]

Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is their an advantage to choosing a particular race?

School gets special treatment if a high number of blacks and/or hispanics. The Equitability Accountability study has 5 certain areas of focus, and the only groups (I won't use "minority" since Hispanic students outnumber all groups including whites at MCPS) to get special treatment even if non-FARMS are black and hispanic.

Citation please, with specifics about the "special treatment".

There’s no special treatment. PP is trolling.

Then why do they track this data?
There is a massive advantage to checking the Black box for college admissions, so maybe it's smart to check the same box when your kid is in high school.

Because they're following federal requirements.

...in order to qualify for federal programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

This is old news. My Pan-Asian Muslim niece and nephews are also considered white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

This is old news. My Pan-Asian Muslim niece and nephews are also considered white.

I'm not sure why they ignore multi-racial. According to Census data, MoCo overall is 3.4% multi-racial and I'm guessing it's higher among people of school age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

This is old news. My Pan-Asian Muslim niece and nephews are also considered white.

I'm not sure why they ignore multi-racial. According to Census data, MoCo overall is 3.4% multi-racial and I'm guessing it's higher among people of school age.

I'm not sure either. I can guess but, that doesn't get us anywhere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is their an advantage to choosing a particular race?

School gets special treatment if a high number of blacks and/or hispanics. The Equitability Accountability study has 5 certain areas of focus, and the only groups (I won't use "minority" since Hispanic students outnumber all groups including whites at MCPS) to get special treatment even if non-FARMS are black and hispanic.

Citation please, with specifics about the "special treatment".

There’s no special treatment. PP is trolling.

Then why do they track this data?
There is a massive advantage to checking the Black box for college admissions, so maybe it's smart to check the same box when your kid is in high school.

Because they're following federal requirements.

...in order to qualify for federal programs.

No, in order to comply with federal requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

Yah, it's a new development in MCPS. White and Asians are considered one group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

That’s hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

So what are they doing for whites and Asians Non-Farms so they are being appropriately challenged?
Where’s the special long term study in serving those needs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

Yah, it's a new development in MCPS. White and Asians are considered one group.

DCUM has been talking about "URMS" for years, with no evident qualms. But evidently GNURMS (groups that are not underrepresented minorities) is a step too far - an outrage! Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

That’s hilarious.

If you read the page, it explains the groups:
"The Equity Accountability Model moves beyond the typical state and federal aggregate reporting to performance reporting for specific focus groups of students who have not experienced the same level of access, opportunity or success as other students.
While all students’ progress is monitored, an Equity Accountability score for each school is assigned to five focus groups."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

That’s hilarious.

Equity Accountability, more like equitizing outcomes, is going to lose a lot of teachers to other school districts.
The teachers union must be all over this trying to get the study and consequent tracking of scores to lobbby for more and more local funded (not fed funded) money and resources and not put teachers accountable.

But as we all know, public school cannot parent the parentless. So. after the extremely low hanging fruit is brought up, nothing will happen. The MCPS Masters of the Universe complex, with its $2-3B sloshing around each year, continues. And continues to fail all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups - NONE OF WHICh INCLUDE Non URMs or non FARMS
1. Black, not low-income (URM black)
2. Hispanic, not low-income. (URM Hispanic)
3. Whites/Asians/Other, low-income (FARMS)
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income (FARMS)

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

No. It says pretty clearly there are fIVE focus groups, and on the left side of page 1 of 2 that “non black, non Hispanic, non farm students” are the control group and nothing will be done to study their progress, growth or lackthereof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is the information directly from MCPS:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/evidence-of-learning-framework/equity-accountability-model.aspx

These are their five focus groups:
1. Black, not low-income
2. Hispanic, not low-income
3. Whites/Asians/Other, not low-income
4. Blacks, low-income (FARMS)
5. Hispanic, low-income

So they are indeed grouping Whites and Asians together, and only focus on them if they are low-income.

If you are White/Asian then low income doesn't matter? Either I am reading it wrong or this 5 brackets seems weird to me.