Washington Spirit VA ID sessions this Sunday

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

06 McLean is even more of a disaster than 06 Spirit-recently lost to the only team they previously had previously beat, the Wilmington Hammerheads, 0-4. So, make sure you study up on which age group you are talking about at these clubs. BRYC 06 fine but too many in the player pool and you don't have a regularly assigned team.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

06 McLean is even more of a disaster than 06 Spirit-recently lost to the only team they previously had previously beat, the Wilmington Hammerheads, 0-4. So, make sure you study up on which age group you are talking about at these clubs. BRYC 06 fine but too many in the player pool and you don't have a regularly assigned team.

McLean and Bryc are better options.

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Anonymous wrote:We attended ID sessions for 2006 program and were told they would have this amazing talent pool but didn't, and then had to fill the team with a bunch of 2007 players. Why should we assume that will be any different with the 2007 group this year? Part of communication is being honest with people that are about to pay 10k to play with mediocrity.

[/b]There is one 07 on the 06 team.

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Untrue-there are currently 2 07's (one PT) and one 08 (who is very good).

It is very true that the current 06 team definitely needs an influx of talent and at this point it is unclear if that will materialize. It has not so far at ID sessions.

Ok, that doesn't sound like they "had to fill the team with a bunch of 2007 players" is particularly accurate. To me a bunch is more like 4-6?

All of this discussion by rumor is funny for DA. Go to the source. Here is an example recent game report:

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=5899185&teamId=8242788

Roster shows 5 2007 players, though one left the team and one plays up regularly.

Also note the score, which shows this team can compete, given the right set of circumstances.

I want to see the 06 team succeed, but what set of circumstances have those been? One game against Penn Fusion? They regular lose by 7, 8, 9, sometimes double digit goals. I think it's a pilot program with a team that Spirit started very late recruiting, so I'm not pinging fingers. At the same time, I don't think we should pretend like the current group of players - by some reason or another - isn't struggling. It is. They did lose a goalie, but they had large goal differentials before that.

So that team needs a dramatic reorganization, talent pool adjustment, age ready players or something. It's a shame Tom didn't pick up that team. It certainly needs his attention.

That team needs 3-4 talented 2006s which would make it more even with the competition in the division. It’s hard to compete when the clown car subs for the other team are almost as good as the starters yet your team has hardly a bench. Even putting the one playup out of the group back with the 2006s would help substantially. The team played fairly well at CASL as well, even with the current roster as it is. So let’s not pretend that there aren’t any solid players on the team. They need a few more.

This post is fair and accurate. I could see and influx of 3-4 talented players really helping. That's about 30% of the regular number of players who play today, as noted by another poster. It would be interesting to see how the team would change with that simple addition.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

I'm assuming sarcasm here? McLean and BRYC 2006 teams are a mess too

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Anonymous wrote:We attended ID sessions for 2006 program and were told they would have this amazing talent pool but didn't, and then had to fill the team with a bunch of 2007 players. Why should we assume that will be any different with the 2007 group this year? Part of communication is being honest with people that are about to pay 10k to play with mediocrity.

[/b]There is one 07 on the 06 team.

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Untrue-there are currently 2 07's (one PT) and one 08 (who is very good).

It is very true that the current 06 team definitely needs an influx of talent and at this point it is unclear if that will materialize. It has not so far at ID sessions.

Ok, that doesn't sound like they "had to fill the team with a bunch of 2007 players" is particularly accurate. To me a bunch is more like 4-6?

All of this discussion by rumor is funny for DA. Go to the source. Here is an example recent game report:

http://www.ussoccerda.com/sam/standings/ss/view_game_report.php?eventId=5899185&teamId=8242788

Roster shows 5 2007 players, though one left the team and one plays up regularly.

Also note the score, which shows this team can compete, given the right set of circumstances.

I want to see the 06 team succeed, but what set of circumstances have those been? One game against Penn Fusion? They regular lose by 7, 8, 9, sometimes double digit goals. I think it's a pilot program with a team that Spirit started very late recruiting, so I'm not pinging fingers. At the same time, I don't think we should pretend like the current group of players - by some reason or another - isn't struggling. It is. They did lose a goalie, but they had large goal differentials before that.

So that team needs a dramatic reorganization, talent pool adjustment, age ready players or something. It's a shame Tom didn't pick up that team. It certainly needs his attention.

That team needs 3-4 talented 2006s which would make it more even with the competition in the division. It’s hard to compete when the clown car subs for the other team are almost as good as the starters yet your team has hardly a bench. Even putting the one playup out of the group back with the 2006s would help substantially. The team played fairly well at CASL as well, even with the current roster as it is. So let’s not pretend that there aren’t any solid players on the team. They need a few more.

This post is fair and accurate. I could see and influx of 3-4 talented players really helping. That's about 30% of the regular number of players who play today, as noted by another poster. It would be interesting to see how the team would change with that simple addition.

What positions are needed most for the 3-4 players?

[Anonymous]

U14: 2-11-3 (heavily recruited team from Mclean)
U15: 1-14-4 (same results for 2 years running)
U16/U17: 1-15 -2
U18/19: 9-9

Goal differential between U15-U19: -76

What's the plan?

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I don’t understand the comment about recruiting from mclean. yes it’s a fact, but they are in each others backyards. A new club in that area is bound to pick up some of the players who live 10 mins away. Didn’t mclean have 3 teams at that age group? c’mon, you dont think many of those girls felt overlooked and underserved? add that to the knowledge that mclean heavily recruits through the older age groups?

At least be reasonable. but a fact is a fact.

[Anonymous]

Those records... wow

[Anonymous]

Records don’t matter. Training, competing against quality competition, and getting your kids in front of scouts does. Lots of college commits at Spirit, despite the records.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Records don’t matter. Training, competing against quality competition, and getting your kids in front of scouts does. Lots of college commits at Spirit, despite the records.

I'm at Spirit, and I say records matter. All those commits came from the U19s of last year's fall, who had a great record, the U17s of last year that made the play offs and the U19s this year, who had a great d this fall.

Records matter. Spirit has to correct this trend. Correct the rosters, play players where they should be played, and start winning some games.

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Anonymous wrote:Records don’t matter. Training, competing against quality competition, and getting your kids in front of scouts does. Lots of college commits at Spirit, despite the records.

I'm at Spirit, and I say records matter. All those commits came from the U19s of last year's fall, who had a great record, the U17s of last year that made the play offs and the U19s this year, who had a great d this fall.

Records matter. Spirit has to correct this trend. Correct the rosters, play players where they should be played, and start winning some games.

There's room for disagreement. You aren't the only one at Spirit on this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

06 McLean is even more of a disaster than 06 Spirit-recently lost to the only team they previously had previously beat, the Wilmington Hammerheads, 0-4. So, make sure you study up on which age group you are talking about at these clubs. BRYC 06 fine but too many in the player pool and you don't have a regularly assigned team.

06 McLean lost one of their better players to Spirit at the mid year break. McLean 06 is a complete disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

06 McLean is even more of a disaster than 06 Spirit-recently lost to the only team they previously had previously beat, the Wilmington Hammerheads, 0-4. So, make sure you study up on which age group you are talking about at these clubs. BRYC 06 fine but too many in the player pool and you don't have a regularly assigned team.

06 McLean lost one of their better players to Spirit at the mid year break. McLean 06 is a complete disaster.

Almost all of the mclean teams struggle at some point at younger ages. At least they have a record of improvement year over year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Records don’t matter. Training, competing against quality competition, and getting your kids in front of scouts does. Lots of college commits at Spirit, despite the records.

I'm at Spirit, and I say records matter. All those commits came from the U19s of last year's fall, who had a great record, the U17s of last year that made the play offs and the U19s this year, who had a great d this fall.

Records matter. Spirit has to correct this trend. Correct the rosters, play players where they should be played, and start winning some games.

There's room for disagreement. You aren't the only one at Spirit on this forum.

For sure. You can disagree. I don't want everyone to think all of us Spirit parents are equally enamored with the record, or tell ourselves that it doesn't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to BRYC or McLean and save the headache. They have proven themselves worthy

06 McLean is even more of a disaster than 06 Spirit-recently lost to the only team they previously had previously beat, the Wilmington Hammerheads, 0-4. So, make sure you study up on which age group you are talking about at these clubs. BRYC 06 fine but too many in the player pool and you don't have a regularly assigned team.

06 McLean lost one of their better players to Spirit at the mid year break. McLean 06 is a complete disaster.

Almost all of the mclean teams struggle at some point at younger ages. At least they have a record of improvement year over year.

Improvement comes at older ages when they’ve recruited players who’ve been developed at other clubs.