new thread-- actual hs magnet results

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like letters will arrive Monday. Ugh.

Parents - pleeease refrain from calling or texting results to your child during the day. Several years ago one of my kids in 8th grade magnet experienced a horrible school day as kids got results texted during classes. Some kids got bad news and were in tears and sent to counselors, some got good news and were horribly rude to peers, and pretty much the rest were in a high state of anxiety all day. Please give your children the news when they get home.

Good luck to all!

It's good to advocate wisdom, but some people will want to let their kids know if it's good news. It's not fair to tell them that they shouldn't let kids know. It is fair to ask people to use discretion and empathy.

How many eighth graders do you know who are consistently capable of discretion and empathy in the moment they receive exciting news? PP is not saying don’t tell them at all, just that when you tell them, do it at home ffs.

A lot. You don't think these kids are capable of discretion and empathy? My kid is currently at Blair (& accepted all other programs) and was at TPMS, so a lot of acceptances going on. Kids were respectful and sensitive (for the most part). I wouldn't open her mail, but I may have texted that she got a large envelope. You can't tell other parents what to do. Sorry.

From your many posts, it seems that you are not that sensitive. Your girls might be perfectly nice though.

Sure I am. That's why I raised them to be thoughtful and kind. I only posted a few times and wouldn't have followed up if you weren't so vociferous about telling others what to do. Nothing I've said is insensitive. What is insensitive is to tell other parents what they can or can't tell their own kids. FWIW, I only posted to say let people make their own choices and to say I hope they will choose wisely. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet! Yikes!

Wow. You are really annoying as you are on all of these threads.

[Anonymous]

Please stop the distracting squabble ...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: I think the test scores are part of the whole picture, together with recommendations, essays, standardized test scores like MAP-M and MAP-R, grades, and whatever else, not the be-all and end-all.

DC was accepted to RMIB with:
V 54 (87%)
Q 40 (42%)
NV 42 (62%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

CoGAT global was:

V 54/64 (99% for both age and grade)
Q 40/52 (89% age and 90% grade)
NV 42/60 (97% both age and grade)
Composite age: 97%
Composite grade: 98%

But that's the data we have and can compare. We can't compare the rest of the information the committee looked at. And honestly at some point it's just like college or university these days -- it's just a crapshoot. They could probably swap out this kid who got in for that kid who didn't multiple times and make up an equally smart and successful class.

That's relatively weak
Is RM your home school?

No it isn't. Home school is a W school, and DC is coming from a magnet middle with CES before that. I don't have to justify my DC's acceptance to you, and you haven't seen the whole package of DC's application, which I'm not going to share any more details of. But the committee did, and for whatever reasons they chose DC to receive an offer.

DC's case is just one data point -- but I think it underscores the unreliability of assuming that test scores and only test scores are determinative in admissions. (Same holds true for colleges and universities, BTW -- they aren't just looking for perfect 1600s on the SAT but at the whole student.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I think the test scores are part of the whole picture, together with recommendations, essays, standardized test scores like MAP-M and MAP-R, grades, and whatever else, not the be-all and end-all.

DC was accepted to RMIB with:
V 54 (87%)
Q 40 (42%)
NV 42 (62%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

CoGAT global was:

V 54/64 (99% for both age and grade)
Q 40/52 (89% age and 90% grade)
NV 42/60 (97% both age and grade)
Composite age: 97%
Composite grade: 98%

But that's the data we have and can compare. We can't compare the rest of the information the committee looked at. And honestly at some point it's just like college or university these days -- it's just a crapshoot. They could probably swap out this kid who got in for that kid who didn't multiple times and make up an equally smart and successful class.

Wow! Your child's verbal raw score was only 1 point different than my child's (54 vs. 53) but that was a 17 % difference (87% vs 70%)!

And yes, of course all of the other factors you listed play a role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I think the test scores are part of the whole picture, together with recommendations, essays, standardized test scores like MAP-M and MAP-R, grades, and whatever else, not the be-all and end-all.

DC was accepted to RMIB with:
V 54 (87%)
Q 40 (42%)
NV 42 (62%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

CoGAT global was:

V 54/64 (99% for both age and grade)
Q 40/52 (89% age and 90% grade)
NV 42/60 (97% both age and grade)
Composite age: 97%
Composite grade: 98%

But that's the data we have and can compare. We can't compare the rest of the information the committee looked at. And honestly at some point it's just like college or university these days -- it's just a crapshoot. They could probably swap out this kid who got in for that kid who didn't multiple times and make up an equally smart and successful class.

That's relatively weak
Is RM your home school?

No it isn't. Home school is a W school, and DC is coming from a magnet middle with CES before that. I don't have to justify my DC's acceptance to you, and you haven't seen the whole package of DC's application, which I'm not going to share any more details of. But the committee did, and for whatever reasons they chose DC to receive an offer.

DC's case is just one data point -- but I think it underscores the unreliability of assuming that test scores and only test scores are determinative in admissions. (Same holds true for colleges and universities, BTW -- they aren't just looking for perfect 1600s on the SAT but at the whole student.)

Please do not fight
I can tell you great secret. Every year all programs take kids who score extremely high for the focus of the school.
54 on reading is quite high, and apparently was high enough - plus the package.
My kid who is terrible with verbal and always was got invited into two programs last year with extremely high math score (after technical magnet in MS). All other scores were fine but not stellar and did not matter.
This was exactly the same when that kid was invited for MS (I know that now criteria changed there with cohort mess)
Kid with extremely high score in the focus of the school gets better chances than well rounded kid with all great score but none stellar.
Basically one extremely high score always pull a kid with other average or below average scores. That was always the case.

[Anonymous]

Can I just say how refreshing it is to see how transparent MCPS is being about the HS Magnet test results. Kudos

[Anonymous]

Accepted to Blair STEM (waiting to hear from Wheaton)

Verbal 52 (97)
Quant 50 (99)
Non-verb 44 (99)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I think the test scores are part of the whole picture, together with recommendations, essays, standardized test scores like MAP-M and MAP-R, grades, and whatever else, not the be-all and end-all.

DC was accepted to RMIB with:
V 54 (87%)
Q 40 (42%)
NV 42 (62%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

CoGAT global was:

V 54/64 (99% for both age and grade)
Q 40/52 (89% age and 90% grade)
NV 42/60 (97% both age and grade)
Composite age: 97%
Composite grade: 98%

But that's the data we have and can compare. We can't compare the rest of the information the committee looked at. And honestly at some point it's just like college or university these days -- it's just a crapshoot. They could probably swap out this kid who got in for that kid who didn't multiple times and make up an equally smart and successful class.

Completely agree with this sane observation. My DC was waitlisted at RMIB with slightly higher scores in all three categories, but for the identical 4 on the essay. That's fine; we are down-county and weren't likely to travel there anyhow, and he got into another program that he's excited about, but it's likely that the committee saw something special in the above kid. Wishing your DC all the best at RM!

[Anonymous]

Anecdotally, I know two students with the same composite %ile score --- one got into RMIB, and the other didn't. Both students are stellar students in school -- high MAP and PARCC scores, straight As.

The only difference that I am aware of between the two students is that one student is more well rounded (sports, music, etc..) while the other student only does one type of activity. Per my DC who is friends with both stated that the one who got in is a much better writer. So, the cogat scores are really just one metric. And if you look at the median scores of accepted students, it's actually not that high. So clearly, they are looking at other factors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I think the test scores are part of the whole picture, together with recommendations, essays, standardized test scores like MAP-M and MAP-R, grades, and whatever else, not the be-all and end-all.

DC was accepted to RMIB with:
V 54 (87%)
Q 40 (42%)
NV 42 (62%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

CoGAT global was:

V 54/64 (99% for both age and grade)
Q 40/52 (89% age and 90% grade)
NV 42/60 (97% both age and grade)
Composite age: 97%
Composite grade: 98%

But that's the data we have and can compare. We can't compare the rest of the information the committee looked at. And honestly at some point it's just like college or university these days -- it's just a crapshoot. They could probably swap out this kid who got in for that kid who didn't multiple times and make up an equally smart and successful class.

That's relatively weak
Is RM your home school?

No it isn't. Home school is a W school, and DC is coming from a magnet middle with CES before that. I don't have to justify my DC's acceptance to you, and you haven't seen the whole package of DC's application, which I'm not going to share any more details of. But the committee did, and for whatever reasons they chose DC to receive an offer.

DC's case is just one data point -- but I think it underscores the unreliability of assuming that test scores and only test scores are determinative in admissions. (Same holds true for colleges and universities, BTW -- they aren't just looking for perfect 1600s on the SAT but at the whole student.)

Didn't mean to offend, just very curious about the wide range of accepted score.
DC is in the waiting pool in a program and we know two kids with similar score, one got accepted and another rejected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can I just say how refreshing it is to see how transparent MCPS is being about the HS Magnet test results. Kudos

Yes it is. Letter also came from the HS directly so I assume they are still doing their own selections. Something tells me might not stay this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I just say how refreshing it is to see how transparent MCPS is being about the HS Magnet test results. Kudos

Yes it is. Letter also came from the HS directly so I assume they are still doing their own selections. Something tells me might not stay this way.

That would be unfortunate. I think parents have more trust in a process that is transparent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I just say how refreshing it is to see how transparent MCPS is being about the HS Magnet test results. Kudos

Yes it is. Letter also came from the HS directly so I assume they are still doing their own selections. Something tells me might not stay this way.

The selection committee is still the High School Staff, plus central office (as it has been). The difference this year is that all the application information went through central office and was fully de-identified when it came to committee (no names, school ID, or gender) according to someone I know who is on a committee.

[Anonymous]

DC accepted to Poolesville SMACS with....
V 49 (62%)
Q 50 (90%)
NV 53 (98%)
Essay 4/6 (median was 4)

SMACS median scores - 49(V)/50(Q)/48 (NV)

CoGAT global was:

V 49/64 (93% for both age and 94% grade)
Q 50/52 (99% age and 90% grade)
NV 53/60 (99% both age and grade)
Composite age: 99%
Composite grade: 99%

[Anonymous]

Corrected post above for CoGAT

V 49/64 (93% for age and 94% grade)
Q 50/52 (99% both age and grade)
NV 53/60 (99% both age and grade)
Composite age: 99%
Composite grade: 99%