You’re an idiot. |
There is no "illegal" immigration in the south side of America that can be stopped by a wall. Crossing the border without permission and then asking for asylum is a form of Legal immigration. |
You're an idiot if you don't see that. That's why Keith Ellison wore a shirt that said "I don't believe in borders." That's why dems support sanctuary cities for illegals. That's why dems support asylum fraud. That's why dems don't want to build a wall. That's why dems want mass amnesty. That's why dems don't want to deport illegals. That's why dems support every single thing that makes it easier for illegal immigrants to remain here. Idiot. |
There are over ten million illegal immigrants in the country. A tiny fraction may be true asylum seekers. If they wanted to apply for asylum they'd go to a port of entry and apply for it. Instead, they jump the border, stay here for months or years, and then when caught apply for asylum because they know it will drag things out. How naive are you to not understand that the vast majority of illegals are economic migrants??? |
So, the ones who cross the border illegally and disappear into the shadows are what? Uninvited guests? Amazing that the areas in which strong border barriers have been constructed illegal entry has dropped to almost nothing......Why do you suppose that is? |
But I keep hearing that Dems supported wall funding before but now they don't because of Trump. Deportations also went up during the Obama years. Doesn't sound like they want open borders to me. Sanctuary cities - local law enforcements usually want people to not be afraid to report violent crimes. Also, they are not responsible for checking papers. That's like saying ICE should be issuing speeding tickets. Local law enforcement agencies do honor holding requests by ICE if they are given time. |
Where in the US is this amazing place where border walls have dropped illegal entry into almost nothing? |
The GAO taaked the Border Patrol for collecting data and providing metrics by which to measure success of fencing as a tool to help them with their job. Has this happened yet?
https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/682838.pdf I’d like to see data and not emotions. |
How does this lie keep making its way around? Obama simply "redefined" what counted as a deportation by counting those who were turned away at the border as a deportation. Google it. It takes two seconds. This is incredibly well known. |
Because the American Dream is dead and it's too costly for many immigrants from south of the border to make a new life here? Plus, racism. I suspect immigration was down before the fall of Rome as well. |
I take it back, you're not an idiot. You're a F*CKING idiot. Glad we cleared that up. |
Well, gee, I guess since Trump can redefine what a border wall means, Obama can redefine what deportations mean. But no, the deportations were redefined under Bush, not Obama, and it was a good move. It ensured that law enforcement had documentation on who was being caught, whereas previously, illegal immigrants caught at the border were simply released back to Mexico without going through the formal deportations. Prior to this, the official number of deportations weren't counting the "catch and release" back to Mexico numbers. Isn't Trump still using the same deportation definition now? If so, then Obama still deported more than Trump. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deported-more-people/
Even a conservative site states that deportations were higher under Obama than Trump, using the same deportation definition. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ice-deportations-under-trump-are-up-but-nowhere-near-obama-levels |
Trump is the one who doesn't seem to be serious about building a wall. Why did he turn down $25 billion when it was offered?
It's far more useful to have the wall as a wedge issue to keep his low-IQ base in a constant state of agitation. And to deflect from all the administration's shenanigans. |
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Here is one area.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/08/22/homeland-security-secretary-border-walls-work-yuma-sector-proves-it-elaine-duke-column/586853001/ |