Heard about hazing incident at DC United U15 Boys DA Team

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

Not true--there have been references to at least one DCU player moving there and the age group was not mentioned. If you read the thread you can see the folks who post there have trouble with responding specifically on team and age groups.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

Not true--there have been references to at least one DCU player moving there and the age group was not mentioned. If you read the thread you can see the folks who post there have trouble with responding specifically on team and age groups.

I only saw VDA players mentioned. Maybe you misread it.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

Not true--there have been references to at least one DCU player moving there and the age group was not mentioned. If you read the thread you can see the folks who post there have trouble with responding specifically on team and age groups.

None of that has anything to do with this thread. It's weird that you even brought it up.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

It sounds horrible. I am truly sorry for the victims. What do you mean "no criminal charges only because it was so far away"? Do you mean because it happened too long ago? That is too bad. You know, if it is as bad as you make it sound, I really think it is irresponsible and inappropriate to just put the kids on another team.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

Not true--there have been references to at least one DCU player moving there and the age group was not mentioned. If you read the thread you can see the folks who post there have trouble with responding specifically on team and age groups.

I would be shocked if Escola accepted players that were terminated by another club because of hazing. I am only aware of 2 players moving between Escola and DCU. One 03 player moved to Escola from DCU in 2017, which was long before these players got cut. One 2001 player moved from Escola to DCU in 2018. Perhaps there was someone else that moved from DCU, but it was probably someone in a younger age group.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

Agreed. They were making a big deal in the FCB Escola thread that several DA players have recently moved there. Perhaps that’s where they have gone?

No DCU 04 players have moved to the FCB Escola.

No one even made that claim.

Not true--there have been references to at least one DCU player moving there and the age group was not mentioned. If you read the thread you can see the folks who post there have trouble with responding specifically on team and age groups.

None of that has anything to do with this thread. It's weird that you even brought it up.

Why is it weird? It’s just an observation from the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

It sounds horrible. I am truly sorry for the victims. What do you mean "no criminal charges only because it was so far away"? Do you mean because it happened too long ago? That is too bad. You know, if it is as bad as you make it sound, I really think it is irresponsible and inappropriate to just put the kids on another team.

I agree. If it was to the level of criminal activity parents should know their children will have them as new teammates—at the very least to protect themselves.

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If it was that bad, VYSA would have put a block on their cards and they wouldn’t be able to play anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it was that bad, VYSA would have put a block on their cards and they wouldn’t be able to play anywhere.

and US Youth Soccer and the rest....

Of course, but don’t let facts like that get in the way of a good story.

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Anonymous wrote:This did happen. 4 players were removed. No hazing, just horrific bullying. No coaches were aware and all was handled internally. Believe or not, it did happen. I think they handled this properly without media trying to make it a bigger deal than it already is. All parents seem to be satisfied with decision.

Fellow DCU parent here. I agree with all of that. I don't think the club was at fault at all, and when they found out they handled it appropriately, with the focus on ensuring the safety of the players moving forward.

What age group was affected?

Well all 4 players are at Arlington now! hahaha.

I hope this isn't true. What kind of a punishment or lesson is that?

I don't understand why a kid wouldn't get a second chance. Just because the kid screwed up at DCU, that should not mean the kid is out of soccer forever. When high schools expel kids, they get them a spot at another high school in the district. I'd rather have these kids with a second chance so they can get it right than hanging at the 7-11 and getting into worse issues.

I don't know what happened so this is all speculative. I would agree if there were some kind of suspension. Maybe the miss a season or at least part of one. Something to impress on them that there are consequences to their actions. Moving from one DA club seamlessly to the next does not seem like much of a punishment.

You're right you can only speculate what's fair since you don't know what happened. It was bad. Really bad. No criminal charges only because it was so far away.

I just keep thinking about the victims. I can't even begin to imagine how those kids managed to take the field and try to play after what they went through. They kept it secret for months, not even telling their parents.
This is the kind of trauma that will stay with them the rest of their lives. The kids that did this to them should not be allowed anywhere near them, never mind on the same soccer field.

Were they raped? Physically beaten? This post is very dramatic if it were along the lines of name-calling/ribbing. I think anyone with a kid on one of these DA teams or about to join should know for security/safety.

It sounds horrible. I am truly sorry for the victims. What do you mean "no criminal charges only because it was so far away"? Do you mean because it happened too long ago? That is too bad. You know, if it is as bad as you make it sound, I really think it is irresponsible and inappropriate to just put the kids on another team.

My understanding is it only happened on overnight trips out of town. So far away as in far away, not long ago.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was that bad, VYSA would have put a block on their cards and they wouldn’t be able to play anywhere.

and US Youth Soccer and the rest....

Of course, but don’t let facts like that get in the way of a good story.

OMG, just stop. You sound like an idiot. US Youth Soccer and its members (including VYSA, MYSA) have nothing to do with the DA. DA players are not carded by UYSA orgs.

This is all over the DA by now. Even those of us who aren't with DCU know other parents who are, and this has been confirmed by multiple sources. Ask anyone with a kid in the DA and they'll tell you the same thing. Apparently an email went out to the whole club when they found out. This is not a secret. And these are big name players they've kicked out. All 4 are starters, 2 have had YNT callups. But no one thinks the club had any other option but to kick them out. The abuse I've heard described is horrible. Not just verbal or "ribbing". You have to be beyond clueless to think that DC would kick players out of the club for something like that. What I've heard is 4 players ganging up on 1, pinning them down, and doing the sort of things that would land an adult in prison. Anyone who needs any more detail than that is just plain sick. Seriously sick.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was that bad, VYSA would have put a block on their cards and they wouldn’t be able to play anywhere.

and US Youth Soccer and the rest....

Of course, but don’t let facts like that get in the way of a good story.

OMG, just stop. You sound like an idiot. US Youth Soccer and its members (including VYSA, MYSA) have nothing to do with the DA. DA players are not carded by UYSA orgs.

This is all over the DA by now. Even those of us who aren't with DCU know other parents who are, and this has been confirmed by multiple sources. Ask anyone with a kid in the DA and they'll tell you the same thing. Apparently an email went out to the whole club when they found out. This is not a secret. And these are big name players they've kicked out. All 4 are starters, 2 have had YNT callups. But no one thinks the club had any other option but to kick them out. The abuse I've heard described is horrible. Not just verbal or "ribbing". You have to be beyond clueless to think that DC would kick players out of the club for something like that. What I've heard is 4 players ganging up on 1, pinning them down, and doing the sort of things that would land an adult in prison. Anyone who needs any more detail than that is just plain sick. Seriously sick.

Sorry, I've never been to prison. What are you referencing? If what you said is true, that's a crime and for that not to hit the wire is odd given that this is a professional club. The same crap happened this year in a high school in Loudoun and Dematha. Getting kicked out is the punishment? How about spend time in that place your referenced.....Prison.

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Didn’t you get the memo? This is all a big coverup. DCU and US soccer decided to keep this hush hush and release them as punishment instead of going to the authorities and warning the relevant associations. Because, well graft and corruption. And they are evil. I mean look at the Berhalter hire. He probably came to the solution personally.

Crazy Americans. Naive as crap, too.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was that bad, VYSA would have put a block on their cards and they wouldn’t be able to play anywhere.

and US Youth Soccer and the rest....

Of course, but don’t let facts like that get in the way of a good story.

OMG, just stop. You sound like an idiot. US Youth Soccer and its members (including VYSA, MYSA) have nothing to do with the DA. DA players are not carded by UYSA orgs.

This is all over the DA by now. Even those of us who aren't with DCU know other parents who are, and this has been confirmed by multiple sources. Ask anyone with a kid in the DA and they'll tell you the same thing. Apparently an email went out to the whole club when they found out. This is not a secret. And these are big name players they've kicked out. All 4 are starters, 2 have had YNT callups. But no one thinks the club had any other option but to kick them out. The abuse I've heard described is horrible. Not just verbal or "ribbing". You have to be beyond clueless to think that DC would kick players out of the club for something like that. What I've heard is 4 players ganging up on 1, pinning them down, and doing the sort of things that would land an adult in prison. Anyone who needs any more detail than that is just plain sick. Seriously sick.

Oh my god, how horrible. If another Club takes this kids--the parents have a right to know. It makes me question putting my kid in DA if they are on a team in the area.