ACT scores drop nationwide for everyone - except asian-americans
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Anonymous
So how come Asian American student scores didn't drop, too then? They also do go to mostly public schools. Very few go to private schools. |
Anonymous
Because Latino immigrants and anchor babies never identify as white? 
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Anonymous
I haven't read the other comments yet. I support the thinking behind the Common Core effort, but I think a lot of the drop is probably due to the way the Common Core project has been implemented. The Common Core standards are too vague and flowery. Schools are supposed to try to get small children to have a deep understanding of what they read, and to have a deep understanding of how to solve problems in math. In an effort to make our children deep thinkers, the schools skimp on things like teaching kids about multiplication tables, the parts of speech, and commas. The result is kids who don't know the basics, aren't deep thinkers, and talk a lot about rubrics. I think that Asian kids are doing better, overall, because their parents are more likely to send them to tutoring programs that use traditional methods to teach math. |
Anonymous
no.. they don't actually. Why on earth would they? You have to joking to think this is the reason that white ACTs scores went down, or am I missing the sarcasm here. |
Anonymous
| I can't believe no one recognizes that there are tons of asian kids dominating in the sports scene as well. Every asian kid I know who does a sport, does it really well |
Anonymous
mine doesn't.  But then he's got unathletic parents. Does really well in school, though.
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Anonymous
Then it would be interesting to see how much the states where it is mandatory dropped vs the states where it is not mandatory, as well as their demographic percentages. |
Anonymous
Actually the "deeper thinking" curricula are informed by Asian curricula. We just do a crappy job teaching them here and don't spend as much time in class on math. The "traditional" dozens of similar problems on a worksheet is a traditional American approach that doesn't work well either. |
Anonymous
The US doesn't value education as much as some of these Asian cultures do or even some of the European countries. Our culture doesn't respect teachers. Look at the teachers pay or some of the comments on this forum alone about teachers. I'm not saying I want the Chinese style of teaching but the lack of discipline in many of our schools and school funding are all part of the problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spending_on_education_(%25_of_GDP) http://data.uis.unesco.org/?queryid=181 And it's not just a matter of those poor illiterate Hispanics bringing down the scores. Look at areas with low Hispanic/immigration population. Their test scores aren't that great either. MA and NJ usually has the highest test scores, and they spend a lot on education. Yes, so does DC and NY but part of the issue in those areas are high concentration of poverty and higher col. http://www.governing.com/gov-data/education-data/state-education-spending-per-pupil-data.html |
Anonymous
+1. I think it all boils down to the fact that culturally, Asians give a sh** about education far more than other races. They see education as a way forward and surprise, they’re right. If you look hard at other cultural and racial groups in this country you see a lot of indifference towards education and amongst some there seems to even be a dismissive attitude. Jews are the only other group that places strong emphasis on education. |
Anonymous
As an Asian. Awww! |
Anonymous
The first six “bad” scores are in the statistics. I guess what the Asian thinks bad is not so bad after all. |
Anonymous
Counterpoint. At my rural high school, from which I graduated in 1990, I was the only one in my class to take both the ACT and the SAT. I took each exactly once. Most kids didn't take either even once because the majority of kids from my HS class did not go on to college. There was one kid who took the SAT twice. |
Anonymous
Absolutely. That increases diversity and that's the only thing that allows for success. I shake my head at people who worry that China will supplant the US. How can they possibly do that if they're not diverse? |
Anonymous
My dd took the ACT twice. Once cold and once after studying for months and her score went up 5 points. Her last test was last April. I am still getting emails directly from ACT every week about their test prep course and “did you know that just one more point can lead to new scholarship options” etc. It was most definitely not designed to be taken once with no prep. It’s not an IQ test. |