ACT scores drop nationwide for everyone - except asian-americans

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

You're obviously an imbecile.....these tests are designed to be taken multiple times. The testing companies are for profit and multiple sittings are encouraged to generate incremental profit. Think harder next time if possible.

Not going to work. PP is not Asian and will only think once.

[Anonymous]

They probably don't single out ashkenazi jews but i'd imagine their scores went up as well.

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Anonymous wrote:They probably don't single out ashkenazi jews but i'd imagine their scores went up as well.

lol.. you pop up every time.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

You're obviously an imbecile.....these tests are designed to be taken multiple times. The testing companies are for profit and multiple sittings are encouraged to generate incremental profit. Think harder next time if possible.

Not going to work. PP is not Asian and will only think once.

[Anonymous]

Asians don't use the common core math system for learning. They use Singapore math and other systems and learn ahead a few years so they do much better overall.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm going to blame common core math, and the fact that my culture values putting extra money into sports vs. putting extra money into Kumn.

KumOn

Everyone knows that only the weak and desperate would go to Kumon. We, the real tiger parents, create our own enrichment! That way, we can funnel the money to violin lessons.

Why the violin, btw? Why do so many little kids take violin lessons?

I think so many play violin because instruments help brain development and the violin is one of those handful of instruments a decently well behaved kid can start in preschool and actually play it.

They do not have the strength to play a cello, or the dexterity to play a guitar, or the lung strength to play a saxaphone at that age.

So violin it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

Do you have any data because I’m the only person I know from my rural HS that took it twice

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

Do you have any data because I’m the only person I know from my rural HS that took it twice

Yes.

Real life experience.

I took it 3 times.

Spring of junior year, early fall of senior year, winter senior year, 1989.

The really smart kids took the SAT too. One of them got an academy appointment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

Do you have any data because I’m the only person I know from my rural HS that took it twice

Nobody at our high school took it twice and most didn't take the PSAT either.

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Anonymous wrote:They probably don't single out ashkenazi jews but i'd imagine their scores went up as well.

Ashkenazi Jews love Chinese food. I think there's a connection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

Do you have any data because I’m the only person I know from my rural HS that took it twice

Nobody at our high school took it twice and most didn't take the PSAT either.

Do you have data for that? Can you link it?

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Anonymous wrote:And this reflects new growth vs. fixed mindset beliefs, which does in fact reward hard work that leads to growth.

Agree but I do think multiple attempts on these tests is a waste of precious time that kids could spend doing more interesting and productive things. I don't begrudge people who prep and get a better score. I just think it's not a good use of one's life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they would cull out the kids that test prep and run the numbers.

Are you suggesting kids should not prepare for the ACT or SAT now?

C'mon. I know one kid who took the SAT 7 times until they got the score the parents deemed acceptable.

And your point is?? If a runner runs the same course 100s of times to improve 0.1 sec, is that a bad thing? Oh, btw, for the sake of argument, let’s say the runner is not an Asian.

Again, if you work this hard to reduce your running time and you're Asian, it can only mean your Tiger Parent is forcing you to be successful. However, if you you're not Asian, I believe this is called Perseverance and is consider a good trait.

Um, no. Bad analogy. These tests were designed to be taken once. When most people take it once, and a segment of test takers turns it into a conditioning sport, it warps the results and renders the test far less useful for admissions officers.

What are you talking about??

Most people take the SATs and ACTs more than once. Very very few take them only once.

Even at my backwards, redneck, trailer park, no one leaves the state high school in the 80s, people would take the ACT at least twice, sometimes more.

Do you have any data because I’m the only person I know from my rural HS that took it twice

Yes.

Real life experience.

I took it 3 times.

Spring of junior year, early fall of senior year, winter senior year, 1989.

The really smart kids took the SAT too. One of them got an academy appointment.

Do you even empirical proof

[Anonymous]

Your “very very few people” is almost half of people.

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