Shooting near Drew elementary

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the shooting wasn't at the school and had nothing to do with the school. What were these other three incidents of shootings near the school during the school day?

Unfortunately kids were outside and it was directly across the street.

Across the street from the rear of the parcel, with a baseball diamond, the community center, the sprayground, and a roadway in between the incident and any kids outside. It did not involve the school, stop trying to make it like it did.

And I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that it's the fourth shooting in two years. I'm sure you didn't just pull that from your ass to try to slander the school.

PP again, I have to amend that because they've updated the location of the shooting in the article. There was actually the school building itself, the baseball diamond, a parking lot, a couple of houses and a couple of commercial buildings between where the kids were playing and where the shooting happened.

THATs a relief! It was in front of the preschool, not the elementary school. I live in the neighborhood and this is unacceptable, day or nights, half a block a way or on the grounds themselves.

Let me guess, you’re in a unit that could end up zoned for Drew this fall and you’re nervous about what those demographics might look like now that Montessori is moving out so you’re kicking up a fuss about Drew being a dangerous place in the hopes you’ll motivate your neighborhood to get your unit zoned elsewhere. Posting on Nextdoor would be a more effective way to reach them directly but then you’d have to put your name on it.

Nope. I live in Nauck proper and have for years. You're hearing a local speak some truth. I didn't slander the school. I pointed out that it ain't great when the surrounding neighborhood averages one shooting a year near the school. Sorry if offends you in an abstract way but I actually live here and care about it.

So you’re saying this isn’t actually about the school and thus doesn’t belong in VA Public Schools?

Im saying a shooting in broad daylight during school hours that results in the lockdown of a school absolutely belongs in this forum. It scares the sh1t out of parents whose kids are going to get rezoned there, as well as who go there right now. Your blase attitude tells me you have no stake in today's events, it's just an opportunity to argue.

So it is about not wanting your unit zoned to Drew this fall. Classy.

Jeez, what part of "Nauck proper" did you miss? I'm zoned for Drew now and always will be. Just stop responding, you're embarrassing yourself. I rescind my earlier query about where you live. I don't want to assume that your school's surrounding neighborhood doesn't see an equal amount of violent crime.

Sounds like you should move, your kid is in far more danger while they sleep than at the school given the statistics.

Thanks for putting a finer point on my initial post: this shooting will lead a lot of current and potential Drew families to say, "it's time to move. It's not safe here." As I said, not a good look for the new Drew. Not the schools fault but the neighborhood violence is not a separate issue, unfortunately.

Wow, this really is a new racist low in the Arlington boundary wars.

Yeah, not wanting your kid to catch a stray bullet is totally racist.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's irritating when someone tells me gunshots that result in a school lockdown in my own neighborhood are nothing to worry about, and, its racist to do so. I understand the impulse to protect Drew and downplay negative news, but it's not easy to do when you actually live here.

What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

No one from Oakridge is getting zoned to Drew except for maybe the Berkeley so your explanation is BS.

Way to deflect from the question. You all are full of shit with your concern trolling about this shooting.

And you are a comfortable north Arlington liberal who engages in internet SJW antics for amusement.

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the shooting wasn't at the school and had nothing to do with the school. What were these other three incidents of shootings near the school during the school day?

Unfortunately kids were outside and it was directly across the street.

Across the street from the rear of the parcel, with a baseball diamond, the community center, the sprayground, and a roadway in between the incident and any kids outside. It did not involve the school, stop trying to make it like it did.

And I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that it's the fourth shooting in two years. I'm sure you didn't just pull that from your ass to try to slander the school.

PP again, I have to amend that because they've updated the location of the shooting in the article. There was actually the school building itself, the baseball diamond, a parking lot, a couple of houses and a couple of commercial buildings between where the kids were playing and where the shooting happened.

THATs a relief! It was in front of the preschool, not the elementary school. I live in the neighborhood and this is unacceptable, day or nights, half a block a way or on the grounds themselves.

Let me guess, you’re in a unit that could end up zoned for Drew this fall and you’re nervous about what those demographics might look like now that Montessori is moving out so you’re kicking up a fuss about Drew being a dangerous place in the hopes you’ll motivate your neighborhood to get your unit zoned elsewhere. Posting on Nextdoor would be a more effective way to reach them directly but then you’d have to put your name on it.

Nope. I live in Nauck proper and have for years. You're hearing a local speak some truth. I didn't slander the school. I pointed out that it ain't great when the surrounding neighborhood averages one shooting a year near the school. Sorry if offends you in an abstract way but I actually live here and care about it.

So you’re saying this isn’t actually about the school and thus doesn’t belong in VA Public Schools?

Im saying a shooting in broad daylight during school hours that results in the lockdown of a school absolutely belongs in this forum. It scares the sh1t out of parents whose kids are going to get rezoned there, as well as who go there right now. Your blase attitude tells me you have no stake in today's events, it's just an opportunity to argue.

So it is about not wanting your unit zoned to Drew this fall. Classy.

Jeez, what part of "Nauck proper" did you miss? I'm zoned for Drew now and always will be. Just stop responding, you're embarrassing yourself. I rescind my earlier query about where you live. I don't want to assume that your school's surrounding neighborhood doesn't see an equal amount of violent crime.

Sounds like you should move, your kid is in far more danger while they sleep than at the school given the statistics.

Thanks for putting a finer point on my initial post: this shooting will lead a lot of current and potential Drew families to say, "it's time to move. It's not safe here." As I said, not a good look for the new Drew. Not the schools fault but the neighborhood violence is not a separate issue, unfortunately.

Wow, this really is a new racist low in the Arlington boundary wars.

Yeah, not wanting your kid to catch a stray bullet is totally racist.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's irritating when someone tells me gunshots that result in a school lockdown in my own neighborhood are nothing to worry about, and, its racist to do so. I understand the impulse to protect Drew and downplay negative news, but it's not easy to do when you actually live here.

What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

No one from Oakridge is getting zoned to Drew except for maybe the Berkeley so your explanation is BS.

Well, if this happens it will be some real BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the shooting wasn't at the school and had nothing to do with the school. What were these other three incidents of shootings near the school during the school day?

Unfortunately kids were outside and it was directly across the street.

Across the street from the rear of the parcel, with a baseball diamond, the community center, the sprayground, and a roadway in between the incident and any kids outside. It did not involve the school, stop trying to make it like it did.

And I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that it's the fourth shooting in two years. I'm sure you didn't just pull that from your ass to try to slander the school.

PP again, I have to amend that because they've updated the location of the shooting in the article. There was actually the school building itself, the baseball diamond, a parking lot, a couple of houses and a couple of commercial buildings between where the kids were playing and where the shooting happened.

THATs a relief! It was in front of the preschool, not the elementary school. I live in the neighborhood and this is unacceptable, day or nights, half a block a way or on the grounds themselves.

Let me guess, you’re in a unit that could end up zoned for Drew this fall and you’re nervous about what those demographics might look like now that Montessori is moving out so you’re kicking up a fuss about Drew being a dangerous place in the hopes you’ll motivate your neighborhood to get your unit zoned elsewhere. Posting on Nextdoor would be a more effective way to reach them directly but then you’d have to put your name on it.

Nope. I live in Nauck proper and have for years. You're hearing a local speak some truth. I didn't slander the school. I pointed out that it ain't great when the surrounding neighborhood averages one shooting a year near the school. Sorry if offends you in an abstract way but I actually live here and care about it.

So you’re saying this isn’t actually about the school and thus doesn’t belong in VA Public Schools?

Im saying a shooting in broad daylight during school hours that results in the lockdown of a school absolutely belongs in this forum. It scares the sh1t out of parents whose kids are going to get rezoned there, as well as who go there right now. Your blase attitude tells me you have no stake in today's events, it's just an opportunity to argue.

So it is about not wanting your unit zoned to Drew this fall. Classy.

Jeez, what part of "Nauck proper" did you miss? I'm zoned for Drew now and always will be. Just stop responding, you're embarrassing yourself. I rescind my earlier query about where you live. I don't want to assume that your school's surrounding neighborhood doesn't see an equal amount of violent crime.

Sounds like you should move, your kid is in far more danger while they sleep than at the school given the statistics.

Thanks for putting a finer point on my initial post: this shooting will lead a lot of current and potential Drew families to say, "it's time to move. It's not safe here." As I said, not a good look for the new Drew. Not the schools fault but the neighborhood violence is not a separate issue, unfortunately.

Wow, this really is a new racist low in the Arlington boundary wars.

Yeah, not wanting your kid to catch a stray bullet is totally racist.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's irritating when someone tells me gunshots that result in a school lockdown in my own neighborhood are nothing to worry about, and, its racist to do so. I understand the impulse to protect Drew and downplay negative news, but it's not easy to do when you actually live here.

What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

No one from Oakridge is getting zoned to Drew except for maybe the Berkeley so your explanation is BS.

Well, if this happens it will be some real BS.

C'mon, we all know they don't really count, it's not like they're real people. That's what pp was getting at right? Who cares where they end up?

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the shooting wasn't at the school and had nothing to do with the school. What were these other three incidents of shootings near the school during the school day?

Unfortunately kids were outside and it was directly across the street.

Across the street from the rear of the parcel, with a baseball diamond, the community center, the sprayground, and a roadway in between the incident and any kids outside. It did not involve the school, stop trying to make it like it did.

And I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that it's the fourth shooting in two years. I'm sure you didn't just pull that from your ass to try to slander the school.

PP again, I have to amend that because they've updated the location of the shooting in the article. There was actually the school building itself, the baseball diamond, a parking lot, a couple of houses and a couple of commercial buildings between where the kids were playing and where the shooting happened.

THATs a relief! It was in front of the preschool, not the elementary school. I live in the neighborhood and this is unacceptable, day or nights, half a block a way or on the grounds themselves.

Let me guess, you’re in a unit that could end up zoned for Drew this fall and you’re nervous about what those demographics might look like now that Montessori is moving out so you’re kicking up a fuss about Drew being a dangerous place in the hopes you’ll motivate your neighborhood to get your unit zoned elsewhere. Posting on Nextdoor would be a more effective way to reach them directly but then you’d have to put your name on it.

Nope. I live in Nauck proper and have for years. You're hearing a local speak some truth. I didn't slander the school. I pointed out that it ain't great when the surrounding neighborhood averages one shooting a year near the school. Sorry if offends you in an abstract way but I actually live here and care about it.

So you’re saying this isn’t actually about the school and thus doesn’t belong in VA Public Schools?

Im saying a shooting in broad daylight during school hours that results in the lockdown of a school absolutely belongs in this forum. It scares the sh1t out of parents whose kids are going to get rezoned there, as well as who go there right now. Your blase attitude tells me you have no stake in today's events, it's just an opportunity to argue.

So it is about not wanting your unit zoned to Drew this fall. Classy.

Jeez, what part of "Nauck proper" did you miss? I'm zoned for Drew now and always will be. Just stop responding, you're embarrassing yourself. I rescind my earlier query about where you live. I don't want to assume that your school's surrounding neighborhood doesn't see an equal amount of violent crime.

Sounds like you should move, your kid is in far more danger while they sleep than at the school given the statistics.

Thanks for putting a finer point on my initial post: this shooting will lead a lot of current and potential Drew families to say, "it's time to move. It's not safe here." As I said, not a good look for the new Drew. Not the schools fault but the neighborhood violence is not a separate issue, unfortunately.

Wow, this really is a new racist low in the Arlington boundary wars.

Yeah, not wanting your kid to catch a stray bullet is totally racist.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's irritating when someone tells me gunshots that result in a school lockdown in my own neighborhood are nothing to worry about, and, its racist to do so. I understand the impulse to protect Drew and downplay negative news, but it's not easy to do when you actually live here.

What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

No one from Oakridge is getting zoned to Drew except for maybe the Berkeley so your explanation is BS.

Way to deflect from the question. You all are full of shit with your concern trolling about this shooting.

And you are a comfortable north Arlington liberal who engages in internet SJW antics for amusement.

No, the antics came from OP, who opportunistically seized upon someone else’s injury for her own purposes. It’s gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Fortunately the shooting wasn't at the school and had nothing to do with the school. What were these other three incidents of shootings near the school during the school day?

Unfortunately kids were outside and it was directly across the street.

Across the street from the rear of the parcel, with a baseball diamond, the community center, the sprayground, and a roadway in between the incident and any kids outside. It did not involve the school, stop trying to make it like it did.

And I'm still waiting for you to substantiate your claim that it's the fourth shooting in two years. I'm sure you didn't just pull that from your ass to try to slander the school.

PP again, I have to amend that because they've updated the location of the shooting in the article. There was actually the school building itself, the baseball diamond, a parking lot, a couple of houses and a couple of commercial buildings between where the kids were playing and where the shooting happened.

THATs a relief! It was in front of the preschool, not the elementary school. I live in the neighborhood and this is unacceptable, day or nights, half a block a way or on the grounds themselves.

Let me guess, you’re in a unit that could end up zoned for Drew this fall and you’re nervous about what those demographics might look like now that Montessori is moving out so you’re kicking up a fuss about Drew being a dangerous place in the hopes you’ll motivate your neighborhood to get your unit zoned elsewhere. Posting on Nextdoor would be a more effective way to reach them directly but then you’d have to put your name on it.

Nope. I live in Nauck proper and have for years. You're hearing a local speak some truth. I didn't slander the school. I pointed out that it ain't great when the surrounding neighborhood averages one shooting a year near the school. Sorry if offends you in an abstract way but I actually live here and care about it.

So you’re saying this isn’t actually about the school and thus doesn’t belong in VA Public Schools?

Im saying a shooting in broad daylight during school hours that results in the lockdown of a school absolutely belongs in this forum. It scares the sh1t out of parents whose kids are going to get rezoned there, as well as who go there right now. Your blase attitude tells me you have no stake in today's events, it's just an opportunity to argue.

So it is about not wanting your unit zoned to Drew this fall. Classy.

Jeez, what part of "Nauck proper" did you miss? I'm zoned for Drew now and always will be. Just stop responding, you're embarrassing yourself. I rescind my earlier query about where you live. I don't want to assume that your school's surrounding neighborhood doesn't see an equal amount of violent crime.

Sounds like you should move, your kid is in far more danger while they sleep than at the school given the statistics.

Thanks for putting a finer point on my initial post: this shooting will lead a lot of current and potential Drew families to say, "it's time to move. It's not safe here." As I said, not a good look for the new Drew. Not the schools fault but the neighborhood violence is not a separate issue, unfortunately.

Wow, this really is a new racist low in the Arlington boundary wars.

Yeah, not wanting your kid to catch a stray bullet is totally racist.

Sucks to be you, I guess.

It's irritating when someone tells me gunshots that result in a school lockdown in my own neighborhood are nothing to worry about, and, its racist to do so. I understand the impulse to protect Drew and downplay negative news, but it's not easy to do when you actually live here.

What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

No one from Oakridge is getting zoned to Drew except for maybe the Berkeley so your explanation is BS.

Way to deflect from the question. You all are full of shit with your concern trolling about this shooting.

And you are a comfortable north Arlington liberal who engages in internet SJW antics for amusement.

No, the antics came from OP, who opportunistically seized upon someone else’s injury for her own purposes. It’s gross.

OP is from Nauck, it's just that you all can't imagine living there that you invent stories about how she's not.

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So we all agree APS has no role in this? Cool, I'm going to bed.

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I also live in Nauck and don't really see what APS can do to make the area any safer. The school did what it was supposed to do and got the kids inside. I get being upset. I came home to get my kid from the bus stop yesterday to cops and a helicopter.

That being said, I don't feel unsafe in my neighborhood. None of the shootings have involved strangers or been random. I don't know how APS can do to make the school safer. The neighborhood is what it is and no one at the school has ever been hurt. There were kids on the basketball court during the shooting, which is really quite close to the shooting (it borders the road). So I 100% get being worried if your kid goes there.

The vast majority of the neighborhood is wonderful and I love living here. But every solution to reducing crime in the area comes with a lot of issues. For example, stepping up community policing is tough when the police don't have a history of treating POC fairly. Shutting down public housing? Where are those folks going to go? Shutting down the gathering area in the park? It destroys a community culture that goes back decades if not more and the vast majority of the time it is just folks hanging out and playing chess and BBQing.

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Anonymous wrote:I also live in Nauck and don't really see what APS can do to make the area any safer. The school did what it was supposed to do and got the kids inside. I get being upset. I came home to get my kid from the bus stop yesterday to cops and a helicopter.

That being said, I don't feel unsafe in my neighborhood. None of the shootings have involved strangers or been random. I don't know how APS can do to make the school safer. The neighborhood is what it is and no one at the school has ever been hurt. There were kids on the basketball court during the shooting, which is really quite close to the shooting (it borders the road). So I 100% get being worried if your kid goes there.

The vast majority of the neighborhood is wonderful and I love living here. But every solution to reducing crime in the area comes with a lot of issues. For example, stepping up community policing is tough when the police don't have a history of treating POC fairly. Shutting down public housing? Where are those folks going to go? Shutting down the gathering area in the park? It destroys a community culture that goes back decades if not more and the vast majority of the time it is just folks hanging out and playing chess and BBQing.

I live in Douglas Park and agree with this.

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Anonymous wrote:So we all agree APS has no role in this? Cool, I'm going to bed.

There can be issues effecting a school, that are out of that school system’s control. It still effects the school.
Back in that 90’s that area was much more troubled, and I would say it seems safer now, but it’s still got a ways to go.

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Anonymous wrote:I also live in Nauck and don't really see what APS can do to make the area any safer. The school did what it was supposed to do and got the kids inside. I get being upset. I came home to get my kid from the bus stop yesterday to cops and a helicopter.

That being said, I don't feel unsafe in my neighborhood. None of the shootings have involved strangers or been random. I don't know how APS can do to make the school safer. The neighborhood is what it is and no one at the school has ever been hurt. There were kids on the basketball court during the shooting, which is really quite close to the shooting (it borders the road). So I 100% get being worried if your kid goes there.

The vast majority of the neighborhood is wonderful and I love living here. But every solution to reducing crime in the area comes with a lot of issues. For example, stepping up community policing is tough when the police don't have a history of treating POC fairly. Shutting down public housing? Where are those folks going to go? Shutting down the gathering area in the park? It destroys a community culture that goes back decades if not more and the vast majority of the time it is just folks hanging out and playing chess and BBQing.

I live in Douglas Park and agree with this.

Yes, as a Nauck resident I'd say there are things to celebrate about it and things that must simply be endured.

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What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

You mean the shootings you earlier accused me of "pulling out of my ass"? I am concerned about them and that's why I listed them for you.

I don't expect APS to do anything more than they are doing, and nowhere have I complained about their response. Locking the school down and getting kids inside was the right choice, IMO.

And last, I never said the school was the issue. I repeatedly said violence in the surrounding neighborhood was the issue, and was reflecting poorly on Drew. And that makes it an appropriate topic of discussion. I'll let you get the last word in, which will no doubt be yet another effort to mischaracterize my words. I'm done being patient with your knee jerk reactions.

NP - what is it you think should be discussed? What kind of discussion were you looking for when you posted?

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What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

NP. Really? If this had happened in north Arlington, this exchange would be at page 23 already. While the students may not have been in direct danger THIS time, an active shooter a few blocks from a school should absolutely be considered a potential danger. Who knows during the incident whether it's some whacko on a shooting spree, an accidental misfire, a targeted robbery, whether a police pursuit or gunfire exchange will ensue, etc? Was your kid at Drew when this happened? Would you be as non-plussed if it had happened two blocks from YOUR kid's school?

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What do you expect APS to do about it? After all, you're the one saying the school is the issue here, what do you want the school to do to ensure your child's safety? And why are you less worried about the far more frequent nighttime shootings?

Is anyone going to answer this question for real?

No, because they know a few random guys having a dispute a few blocks from the school over something that happened at a 7-11 that didn’t put the students in danger is entirely outside of APS’s control and isn’t a school issue. PP busted them too soon on scaring things up so they don’t get zoned from Oakridge to Drew for them to put together a story.

NP. Really? If this had happened in north Arlington, this exchange would be at page 23 already. While the students may not have been in direct danger THIS time, an active shooter a few blocks from a school should absolutely be considered a potential danger. Who knows during the incident whether it's some whacko on a shooting spree, an accidental misfire, a targeted robbery, whether a police pursuit or gunfire exchange will ensue, etc? Was your kid at Drew when this happened? Would you be as non-plussed if it had happened two blocks from YOUR kid's school?

Was there a 23-page thread on the shooting a block from Nottingham last winter? I don't remember a 23-page discussion on that but maybe I missed it.

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The shooting near Nottingham didn’t happen during the school day, and didn’t send students and teachers running for cover.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooting near Nottingham didn’t happen during the school day, and didn’t send students and teachers running for cover.

Nor did the other four shootings around Drew that OP is ranting about. If those are relevant to Drew, this one is relevant to Nottingham.