Update on Harvard Lawsuit

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard and other top schools have always made it clear that they are looking at much more than just academics. Harvard is about creating leaders, not only academic scholars, so they need to look at far more than just test scores and grades.

Excellent job at stating the obvious. And bonus points for casual racism insinuating that Asians are only excellent at academics. Utter imbecile.

The car, plane, light bulb, internet, nuclear power all must have been invented by Asians. They are so smart

You're embarrassing yourself with your stupidity but you're likely too stupid to realize it. Oh, and if you have wifi in your trailer you might want to research gunpowder, the compass and printing

FFS, people getting into a pissing contest about which race is smarter.

In the US, every aspect of society - from politics to mainstream media - has been controlled by white people. So, it's kind of hard for non white people to take on leadership roles historically Bamboo ceiling is just one example. That is changing, slowly. Look at some of the leaders in high tech; more and more Asian Americans entering politics. More and more Asians in our media.

Asian American population is small, so it's kind of hard for Asian americans to stand out as leaders. Maybe Harvard should allow in more Asian Americans so more of them will be trained by Harvard to enter into leadership roles. Now, there's an equalizer. We have enough white people in leadership roles, many who are corrupt and inept.

there are less jews than asians in the us but there are a shit ton of jews in leadership positions.

how do you explain that?

Good job.

Maybe the old Harvard quota system against Jews should be reinstated, liberating a tons of seats for blacks, Hispanics AND Asians in the process

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.

Why is that? Stoping discriminating Asian students doesn't mean other groups have to be discriminated. It's strange to think a race-neutral policy will push blacks and latinos out.

Why don't you go educate yourself on the history and intent behind affirmative action.

It's to admit people who otherwise might not be accepted. Asians, as a group, have a large number of stellar applicants with amazing academic credentials and test scores.

[Anonymous]

I’m a Democrat, but if the administration and the courts end race-based admission preferences, I will be thrilled. The current affirmative action situation for so-called URMs is bullshit. And congrats to Betsy DeVos for bringing more balance and sanity to college star chambers.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.

Why is that? Stoping discriminating Asian students doesn't mean other groups have to be discriminated. It's strange to think a race-neutral policy will push blacks and latinos out.

Blacks and latinos currently are subjected to lower standards than the rest of the applicant pool so that the college can meet its racial quotas. If admissions were a true meritocracy like in Europe or to a lesser degree the UCal system, more asians would be admitted and fewer blacks and latinos would....because of, you know....qualifications.

Why do admissions have to be a "meritocracy"? Regurgitating answers, studying for hours, getting straight A's in school doesn't equate to success in college or the real world. It doesn't measure innovation, leadership skills or a vast multitude of other things that are more important than perfect test scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard and other top schools have always made it clear that they are looking at much more than just academics. Harvard is about creating leaders, not only academic scholars, so they need to look at far more than just test scores and grades.

Excellent job at stating the obvious. And bonus points for casual racism insinuating that Asians are only excellent at academics. Utter imbecile.

The car, plane, light bulb, internet, nuclear power all must have been invented by Asians. They are so smart

You're embarrassing yourself with your stupidity but you're likely too stupid to realize it. Oh, and if you have wifi in your trailer you might want to research gunpowder, the compass and printing

FFS, people getting into a pissing contest about which race is smarter.

In the US, every aspect of society - from politics to mainstream media - has been controlled by white people. So, it's kind of hard for non white people to take on leadership roles historically Bamboo ceiling is just one example. That is changing, slowly. Look at some of the leaders in high tech; more and more Asian Americans entering politics. More and more Asians in our media.

Asian American population is small, so it's kind of hard for Asian americans to stand out as leaders. Maybe Harvard should allow in more Asian Americans so more of them will be trained by Harvard to enter into leadership roles. Now, there's an equalizer. We have enough white people in leadership roles, many who are corrupt and inept.

there are less jews than asians in the us but there are a shit ton of jews in leadership positions.

how do you explain that?

And how long have the Jews been in the country compared to Asians? The Indians are just getting started. Come back in 20 years..

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I am just happy that my Hispanic rising senior will get the benefit of being a URM before they change the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just happy that my Hispanic rising senior will get the benefit of being a URM before they change the rules.

I know several applicants from our school who suddenly discovered a grandparent’s attenuated Hispanic roots in time for college admission season. The applicants of course can’t speak Spanish and in one case never studied it in school. But who is to question? And if an applicant is lilly white with family ties to Spain, they’re Hispanic! How should that be any different than being of Irish or Italian descent? The whole system makes no sense and is broken. Just get rid of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just happy that my Hispanic rising senior will get the benefit of being a URM before they change the rules.

If you went to college and he was educated in the US colleges don't care about his Hispanic status.

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Ha! Everyone should just check the Hispanic box this year.

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I heard that if a parent attended a non-US university, their child can claim “first generation” applicant status.

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that if a parent attended a non-US university, their child can claim “first generation” applicant status.

Fake news

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Anonymous wrote:Great job by DOJ. Hope they get rid of AActions soon.

Don't be too gleeful. That includes white women, rural poor whites who typically would not have an opportunity to attend someplace like Harvard, Penn, Yale, etc. Be careful what you wish for because your voice will be the loudest if, no when, it impacts whites.

Not white women these days. Bit easier to get into a top college for a white male over a white female. If the schools switched strictly to merit based the ratio would become more lopsided in favor of women, including white women.

Depends on the school - at Brown - sure.

At Wharton, no.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.

Why is that? Stoping discriminating Asian students doesn't mean other groups have to be discriminated. It's strange to think a race-neutral policy will push blacks and latinos out.

Blacks and latinos currently are subjected to lower standards than the rest of the applicant pool so that the college can meet its racial quotas. If admissions were a true meritocracy like in Europe or to a lesser degree the UCal system, more asians would be admitted and fewer blacks and latinos would....because of, you know....qualifications.

Why do admissions have to be a "meritocracy"? Regurgitating answers, studying for hours, getting straight A's in school doesn't equate to success in college or the real world. It doesn't measure innovation, leadership skills or a vast multitude of other things that are more important than perfect test scores.

Apparently you’re the only person simple enough to equate meritocracy with test scores....but way to go with your racist stereotype.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.

Why is that? Stoping discriminating Asian students doesn't mean other groups have to be discriminated. It's strange to think a race-neutral policy will push blacks and latinos out.

Blacks and latinos currently are subjected to lower standards than the rest of the applicant pool so that the college can meet its racial quotas. If admissions were a true meritocracy like in Europe or to a lesser degree the UCal system, more asians would be admitted and fewer blacks and latinos would....because of, you know....qualifications.

Why do admissions have to be a "meritocracy"? Regurgitating answers, studying for hours, getting straight A's in school doesn't equate to success in college or the real world. It doesn't measure innovation, leadership skills or a vast multitude of other things that are more important than perfect test scores.

Then use "innovation" and " leadership skills" or other things as the admission criterion. Nobody said academia grades should be the only measure. The problem with Harvard is that they can't achieve the desired demographics without considering race of a student no matter how they twist their subjective admission criterion.

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Anonymous wrote:I am just happy that my Hispanic rising senior will get the benefit of being a URM before they change the rules.

I hope my Hispanic kids will attend the university they deserve based on their own merits, and thrive there, and be respected by the own accomplishments and work (including being fully bilingual).

I hope Harvard loses this case, as it'd help advance that hope.