Looks like NOVA won Amazon HQ

[Anonymous]

Bezos is super secretive and super petty he will ruin OP’s friend’s life if true, which I sorta doubt anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My source is a good friend who is the CFO of a commercial real estate company. He's the one who spoke to the Amazon folks.

If this is true (what your friend said and position, not necessarily that he is right HQ2 is coming), he is an idiot for sharing with you and you are an idiot for potentially outing him. Honestly, you should ask Jeff to delete it if what you say is true.

+1

You posted too many identifying details, OP. If it's actually true, your friend could get in big trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. HQs go where CEOs live...Amazon’s HQ will be in DC. The rest is just a charade.

the sites in DC are terrible and we already have multiple development sites in litigation. No way this could go through without at least 5 years of lawsuits from DC residents to stop it. Crystal City is the best location. On metro, urban enough, VA is business friendly and you can be in DC in 10 minutes. Dulles corridor is a shit show of congestion and suburbia, two things Bezos did not want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fingers crossed that this is true. We have a 3000 square foot house in Franklin Farms in Herndon. Zoned Carson MS/Chantilly HS. 10 minutes away from the CIT site. Kids are rising 9th and 11th. We could have Kid 1 out and Kid 2 nearly out of FCPS before the school aged population explodes. And a house in our location, with our school zoning should increase in value a lot (right now it is probably worth 700k). Right at the point where we would be in a position to sell and move to a closer in location where we don’t have to worry about ACPS or eastern FCPS or DCPS.

But not counting my chickens yet.

That said, the CIT location is perfect if you look at their RFP. 10 minutes from Dulles. New silver line stop set to open at their doorstep in 2020. Good FCPS/LCPS schools, with access to TJ and now AOS. 80% of the worlds internet traffic passes through the NOVA server farms. Housing is still relatively inexpensive. A decent amount of undeveloped land for new housing and retail. And a very Asian/ STEM career heavy population. Sneer about Herndon all you want. It’s a great place to raise STEM smart kids. And it’s a short silver/Orange/blue line commute from “cooler” Ballston, Courthouse, Tysons areas.

Most of these employees are not going to be able to afford a $700-900K house.

Nevertheless, all real estate will jump

Not necessarily - it may some but many employees will telecommute and come in as needed.

50,000 employees aren't going to "telecommute and come in as needed". Then there are all the related businesses, executive. consumer and food industry that will feed off of the new Amazon site. All real estate in whatever area Amazon chooses will jump. https://www.geekwire.com/2018/amazon-now-employs-566000-people-worldwide-66-percent-jump-year-ago/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My source is a good friend who is the CFO of a commercial real estate company. He's the one who spoke to the Amazon folks.

If this is true (what your friend said and position, not necessarily that he is right HQ2 is coming), he is an idiot for sharing with you and you are an idiot for potentially outing him. Honestly, you should ask Jeff to delete it if what you say is true.

+1

You posted too many identifying details, OP. If it's actually true, your friend could get in big trouble.

Somehow, I think anyone involved in this would be super secretive and not telling his friends. Way too much money involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. HQs go where CEOs live...Amazon’s HQ will be in DC. The rest is just a charade.

the sites in DC are terrible and we already have multiple development sites in litigation. No way this could go through without at least 5 years of lawsuits from DC residents to stop it. Crystal City is the best location. On metro, urban enough, VA is business friendly and you can be in DC in 10 minutes. Dulles corridor is a shit show of congestion and suburbia, two things Bezos did not want.

Crystal City is a s*** show too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything in Fairfax is suburban, not exurban.

False.

[Anonymous]

I'm excited. I want to sell and get the hell out of here in three years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. My source is a good friend who is the CFO of a commercial real estate company. He's the one who spoke to the Amazon folks.

If this is true (what your friend said and position, not necessarily that he is right HQ2 is coming), he is an idiot for sharing with you and you are an idiot for potentially outing him. Honestly, you should ask Jeff to delete it if what you say is true.

+1

You posted too many identifying details, OP. If it's actually true, your friend could get in big trouble.

Somehow, I think anyone involved in this would be super secretive and not telling his friends. Way too much money involved.

This. I love how everyone on here is acting as if DCUM will be the place to break the Amazon news. I have a strange suspicion that Amazon is being fairly tight-lipped about a decision that the entire country is waiting to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything in Fairfax is suburban, not exurban.

False.

+1

Fairfax is way the hell out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fingers crossed that this is true. We have a 3000 square foot house in Franklin Farms in Herndon. Zoned Carson MS/Chantilly HS. 10 minutes away from the CIT site. Kids are rising 9th and 11th. We could have Kid 1 out and Kid 2 nearly out of FCPS before the school aged population explodes. And a house in our location, with our school zoning should increase in value a lot (right now it is probably worth 700k). Right at the point where we would be in a position to sell and move to a closer in location where we don’t have to worry about ACPS or eastern FCPS or DCPS.

But not counting my chickens yet.

That said, the CIT location is perfect if you look at their RFP. 10 minutes from Dulles. New silver line stop set to open at their doorstep in 2020. Good FCPS/LCPS schools, with access to TJ and now AOS. 80% of the worlds internet traffic passes through the NOVA server farms. Housing is still relatively inexpensive. A decent amount of undeveloped land for new housing and retail. And a very Asian/ STEM career heavy population. Sneer about Herndon all you want. It’s a great place to raise STEM smart kids. And it’s a short silver/Orange/blue line commute from “cooler” Ballston, Courthouse, Tysons areas.

Most of these employees are not going to be able to afford a $700-900K house.

Then they are really in for a shock if Amazon HQ2 lands in Boston or DC,proper or closer in to DC or a lot of the HQ2 possibilities. How much is a SCH is a good neighborhood with good schools going to cost in Boston? In DC? In Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything in Fairfax is suburban, not exurban.

False.

+1

Fairfax is way the hell out there.

It really isn’t. I live near the proposed cite. In rush hour, I’m 20 minutes from Tyson’s. On weekends, we are a half hour from the Kennedy Center and 40 minutes from the Smithsonians.

It IS a long commute during rush hour. Or a very expensive one, not that 66 is hot lanes. But a countercommute from DC to Western Fairfax? 40 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. HQs go where CEOs live...Amazon’s HQ will be in DC. The rest is just a charade.

the sites in DC are terrible and we already have multiple development sites in litigation. No way this could go through without at least 5 years of lawsuits from DC residents to stop it. Crystal City is the best location. On metro, urban enough, VA is business friendly and you can be in DC in 10 minutes. Dulles corridor is a shit show of congestion and suburbia, two things Bezos did not want.

Crystal City is a s*** show too.

+1.

DCUM: HQ2 isn’t moving to Herndon. They can’t afford 700k 3000 sq houses.

Also DCUM: HQ2 is coming to Arlington, land of the million dollar shitshacks.

Here a fact guys. Your school system can’t manage the kids they already have without talking about two tracking the high schools because building a 4th high school is impossible for some reason. You do not have the infrastructure for the influx HQ2 would bring. You don’t have a plan to educate the kids you have. That’s just nuts. Tell your school board to get it together, or quit angling for more growth.

Also, saying that the Dulles Tech corridor is congested, but CRYSTAL CITY IS NOT is bonkers. I live in the Dulles Tech corridor and work in CC. CC is a lot more congested than Western Fairfax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. HQs go where CEOs live...Amazon’s HQ will be in DC. The rest is just a charade.

the sites in DC are terrible and we already have multiple development sites in litigation. No way this could go through without at least 5 years of lawsuits from DC residents to stop it. Crystal City is the best location. On metro, urban enough, VA is business friendly and you can be in DC in 10 minutes. Dulles corridor is a shit show of congestion and suburbia, two things Bezos did not want.

Crystal City is a s*** show too.

+1.

DCUM: HQ2 isn’t moving to Herndon. They can’t afford 700k 3000 sq houses.

Also DCUM: HQ2 is coming to Arlington, land of the million dollar shitshacks.

Here a fact guys. Your school system can’t manage the kids they already have without talking about two tracking the high schools because building a 4th high school is impossible for some reason. You do not have the infrastructure for the influx HQ2 would bring. You don’t have a plan to educate the kids you have. That’s just nuts. Tell your school board to get it together, or quit angling for more growth.

Also, saying that the Dulles Tech corridor is congested, but CRYSTAL CITY IS NOT is bonkers. I live in the Dulles Tech corridor and work in CC. CC is a lot more congested than Western Fairfax.

Amazon doesn't care about where their employees kids go to school. Its a non-issue. Not their problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. HQs go where CEOs live...Amazon’s HQ will be in DC. The rest is just a charade.

the sites in DC are terrible and we already have multiple development sites in litigation. No way this could go through without at least 5 years of lawsuits from DC residents to stop it. Crystal City is the best location. On metro, urban enough, VA is business friendly and you can be in DC in 10 minutes. Dulles corridor is a shit show of congestion and suburbia, two things Bezos did not want.

Crystal City is a s*** show too.

+1.

DCUM: HQ2 isn’t moving to Herndon. They can’t afford 700k 3000 sq houses.

Also DCUM: HQ2 is coming to Arlington, land of the million dollar shitshacks.

Here a fact guys. Your school system can’t manage the kids they already have without talking about two tracking the high schools because building a 4th high school is impossible for some reason. You do not have the infrastructure for the influx HQ2 would bring. You don’t have a plan to educate the kids you have. That’s just nuts. Tell your school board to get it together, or quit angling for more growth.

Also, saying that the Dulles Tech corridor is congested, but CRYSTAL CITY IS NOT is bonkers. I live in the Dulles Tech corridor and work in CC. CC is a lot more congested than Western Fairfax.

Amazon doesn't care about where their employees kids go to school. Its a non-issue. Not their problem.

Wasn't affordability one of Amazon's priority? That should rule out most of the DC area, in theory. But I suspect Amazon will ignore this priority and go for another expensive market.