Fairfax schools to teach kids that you can change your sex not just gender

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

But apparently biology and facts are mean.

What about humans who are XXY? People with XX male syndrome? Hermaphrodites? There are actually all kinds of variation. For most people, XX = female and XY = male. But not for everyone. Saying "biological sex" and "sex assigned at birth" means the same thing for most people. But for some people, it's not.

And it most certainly does not mean that you can change your sex, as the OP suggests, but which the article never says.

Those people are very rare deviations from the norm. They are rare enough that they are a clear exception and should not be taught as the standard.

I don't know what you mean by the standard. No humans are the "standard" The question is whether saying "sex assigned at birth" is meaningful or not. It does not take many for that to be meaningful.

There is a standard for male and for female.

If you do not know this or if you count you own opinion as more true than fact, then your education has failed you.

There is also a term sex assigned at birth and it is also meaningful.

I doubt any of the people complaining here go through the FCPS curricula to make sure there are no inconsistencies among any defintions. I think there are people who want to make life difficult for people who identify as, live as, and even have the genitals of a person other than their chromosomal sex. "You have XY chromosomes, you can't go to the girls bathroom, go to the boys bathroom and get beaten up, pervert" I don't sympathize with that, and I doubt many FFX voters do.

Well you've made some incorrect assumptions then. I don't care where anyone pees. I think bathroom bills are pointless. I think you should use the bathroom that matches the gender you choose to look like. But no, I don't want my children being taught that sex is somehow "assigned at birth". It's just not true, and it's an Orwellian abuse of language that ignores the fundamental reality of male vs female for humans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the conservative fear/hate-mongering topic going to be tomorrow?

Already covered gangs and LGBTQ. Moving onto Muslims next?

You are deplorables.

The Fairfax School Board made these changes yesterday. This thread is in response to those changes.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2018/06/school-district-considers-changes-to-sex-ed-dress-codes/

The deplorable comment is divisive and inappropriate.

Starting this inane thread is divide and inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the conservative fear/hate-mongering topic going to be tomorrow?

Already covered gangs and LGBTQ. Moving onto Muslims next?

You are deplorables.

The Fairfax School Board made these changes yesterday. This thread is in response to those changes.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2018/06/school-district-considers-changes-to-sex-ed-dress-codes/

The deplorable comment is divisive and inappropriate.

Starting this inane thread is divide and inappropriate.

The school board made changes to what our children are being taught. I don't see what is inane or inappropriate about a discussion of those changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the conservative fear/hate-mongering topic going to be tomorrow?

Already covered gangs and LGBTQ. Moving onto Muslims next?

You are deplorables.

The Fairfax School Board made these changes yesterday. This thread is in response to those changes.

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2018/06/school-district-considers-changes-to-sex-ed-dress-codes/

The deplorable comment is divisive and inappropriate.

Starting this inane thread is divide and inappropriate.

The school board made changes to what our children are being taught. I don't see what is inane or inappropriate about a discussion of those changes.

A discussion is fine. Did you ever read the OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you haven’t read the article, here is ONLY thing in there even slightly like what the OP said: they are changing the term “biological sex” to “sex assigned at birth.” But if you still want to get out your pitchforks and riot over that, then carry on.

And that's not enough? What kind of idiots are these people who run FF schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

For humans who have not had surgery their genitals are defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact. For those who have had surgery their genitals are not defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact.

What you call them is not science its semantics. Its language. Which seems to matter a lot to some people.

I doubt any of the people asserting here what science is a biologist or physician.

Great. Let's call them what they are. Extremely confused and/or mentally ill persons, too often the victims of sexual abuse or other traumas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

For humans who have not had surgery their genitals are defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact. For those who have had surgery their genitals are not defined by their chromosomes. That is a scientific fact.

What you call them is not science its semantics. Its language. Which seems to matter a lot to some people.

I doubt any of the people asserting here what science is a biologist or physician.

Great. Let's call them what they are. Extremely confused and/or mentally ill persons, too often the victims of sexual abuse or other traumas.

Divisive and inappropriate. GTH.

[Anonymous]

The thing I don't understand is that bathrooms are designed based on biological sex--not gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing I don't understand is that bathrooms are designed based on biological sex--not gender.

I assume that you're referring to urinals? As far as I know, toilets are designed for use by everybody.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The thing I don't understand is that bathrooms are designed based on biological sex--not gender.

I assume that you're referring to urinals? As far as I know, toilets are designed for use by everybody.

Yes. And, boy's bathrooms have more urinals than toilets for a reason.

[Anonymous]

I work at a college health center and we use sex assigned at birth. The reason is that when whoI ask sex / gender there are some kids now that select sex different from their sex assigned at birth. For us to submit billing / insurance we need the sex that is attached to their health card number so we have to be very specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on what I learned in biology, surgery and hormone injections can't alter a person's DNA from male to female or vice versa. For humans, sex is determined by the presence of a Y chromosome. Humans with an X and a Y chromosome are male; those with two X chromosomes are female.

But apparently biology and facts are mean.

What about humans who are XXY? People with XX male syndrome? Hermaphrodites? There are actually all kinds of variation. For most people, XX = female and XY = male. But not for everyone. Saying "biological sex" and "sex assigned at birth" means the same thing for most people. But for some people, it's not.

And it most certainly does not mean that you can change your sex, as the OP suggests, but which the article never says.

Those people are very rare deviations from the norm. They are rare enough that they are a clear exception and should not be taught as the standard.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a college health center and we use sex assigned at birth. The reason is that when whoI ask sex / gender there are some kids now that select sex different from their sex assigned at birth. For us to submit billing / insurance we need the sex that is attached to their health card number so we have to be very specific.

Just out of curiousity, what percentage of kids you see do you think are doing this? And do you find they stay with the alternate gender all through college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing I don't understand is that bathrooms are designed based on biological sex--not gender.

If you're arguing that men's rooms are only designed for people who stand to pee, are you saying that men who use wheelchairs shouldn't use them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a college health center and we use sex assigned at birth. The reason is that when whoI ask sex / gender there are some kids now that select sex different from their sex assigned at birth. For us to submit billing / insurance we need the sex that is attached to their health card number so we have to be very specific.

If that were the reason, then I'd think "what sex are you listed as with your health insurance company?" would be a more sensible question.

I would also assume that a medical professional would want to know what genitalia someone has before deciding how to treat them medically. For example, transwomen don't need pap smears. If a transman is being treated after a rape, a pregnancy test might be in order. etc . . .