another pedophile at Cloverly Elem

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can stop blaming the counties and principals. People who teach, sub, volunteer, etc., all go through the SAME process. They may never have been caught, they have no record, or they haven't done anything up to now. A background check will likely turn up nothing. The schools did their part.

BS - no one saw this guy do anything before??? The point is that MCPS tells their employees to call Central Office - not the police or Child Protective Services. That is what needs to change.

YEP, that is right, no one apparently had any concerns. Your assumption that CPS was covering is ridiculous. In addition, if a child indicated sonething, police would be involved. That's how this happened. Sorry, but pedophiles work like this...the Catholic Church was at it for decades before everyone knew. Not one principal has any more responsibility in this, unless they directly saw something, were told something, or knew something and did nothing.

There are pedophiles that work in places where there are children....unfortunately.

I never read anything about a principal knowing, for decades, that a teacher was abusing students. Very few principals are even in schools for decades. Secondly, if anyone "knew", they would be implicated and arrested as well.

And, what do you mean by "nice try"...no one is trying anything. If you want to make a point, be rational or you won't solve the problem. Assumptions about all kinds of things, without proof, is ridiculous.It is a terrible problem. I am sure people in the school system would like to hear what you have in mind to help stop this. What do you have mind that they aren't already doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Nice try. John Vigna was at Cloverly for decades and the principal knew he was touching children and lap sitting with the little girls. That is success? Leaving him in a classroom for decades? Cloverly is providing a culture with which they can operate and they know it. Just like parents, pedophiles have chat rooms and they even have lobbyists in Annapolis. Who is lobbying for your child?

Who are the pedophiles' lobbyists in Annapolis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nice try. John Vigna was at Cloverly for decades and the principal knew he was touching children and lap sitting with the little girls. That is success? Leaving him in a classroom for decades? Cloverly is providing a culture with which they can operate and they know it. Just like parents, pedophiles have chat rooms and they even have lobbyists in Annapolis. Who is lobbying for your child?

Who are the pedophiles' lobbyists in Annapolis?

LOL...and folks are worried about that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can stop blaming the counties and principals. People who teach, sub, volunteer, etc., all go through the SAME process. They may never have been caught, they have no record, or they haven't done anything up to now. A background check will likely turn up nothing. The schools did their part.

BS - no one saw this guy do anything before??? The point is that MCPS tells their employees to call Central Office - not the police or Child Protective Services. That is what needs to change.

YEP, that is right, no one apparently had any concerns. Your assumption that CPS was covering is ridiculous. In addition, if a child indicated sonething, police would be involved. That's how this happened. Sorry, but pedophiles work like this...the Catholic Church was at it for decades before everyone knew. Not one principal has any more responsibility in this, unless they directly saw something, were told something, or knew something and did nothing.

There are pedophiles that work in places where there are children....unfortunately.

I never read anything about a principal knowing, for decades, that a teacher was abusing students. Very few principals are even in schools for decades. Secondly, if anyone "knew", they would be implicated and arrested as well.

And, what do you mean by "nice try"...no one is trying anything. If you want to make a point, be rational or you won't solve the problem. Assumptions about all kinds of things, without proof, is ridiculous.It is a terrible problem. I am sure people in the school system would like to hear what you have in mind to help stop this. What do you have mind that they aren't already doing?

Stop making up crap. You are wrong about everything you type.
There is no law that says principals will be arrested if they do not report. They are free to not report and nothing happens to them.
Try reading about John Vigna.
Your assumption about people in the school system is completely false. Ask the State Board of Education how it worked for them when they told the Montgomery County Board of Education to stop this. Spoiler, Montgomery County Board of Education did nothing.

[Anonymous]

These are the people to call if you suspect your child has been abused:

Captain Sean Gagen Special Victims Investigations Division 240-773-5401

Wendy P. Grier, LCSW-C Montgomery County Child Welfare Services 240-777-4243(w)


This is the person to contact if the person/people in MCPS whom you tell what happened do not also immediately report to Child Protective Services. These types of people in MCPS should have their professional licenses/teaching certificates suspended or revoked:

Kelly Meadows, M.S.
Branch Chief
Maryland State Department of Education
Division of Educator Effectiveness
200 W. Baltimore Street
Baltimore, MD 21201-2595
410-767-0406 (office)
410-333-8963 (fax)
[e-mail]

[Anonymous]

Yes, ALL personnel are liable for NOT reporting. All...lunch ladies, teachers, principals, custodians, paras, ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nice try. John Vigna was at Cloverly for decades and the principal knew he was touching children and lap sitting with the little girls. That is success? Leaving him in a classroom for decades? Cloverly is providing a culture with which they can operate and they know it. Just like parents, pedophiles have chat rooms and they even have lobbyists in Annapolis. Who is lobbying for your child?

Who are the pedophiles' lobbyists in Annapolis?

LOL...and folks are worried about that, right?

You should be. They are very powerful. They love putting one over an parents like you and getting laws that are favorable to themselves passed.

[Anonymous]

Pedophiles are everywhere. They don’t look scary; they aren’t odd looking or smelly or strange. They want to blend in, to be the attractive, inviting, fun, warm, helpful person anyone would trust their child with. They are in all professions, religions and neighborhoods. They will try to be involved in activities with children. This isn’t a MCPS problem - it’s universal. Every parent needs to talk frankly with their children about people touching them - have to be frank, not using euphemisms but language they can understand. Then adults need to believe them and respect it if they are not comfortable around someone. Report concerns to the police, not to a school or church. This is why I was concerned reading the post from a mom who undresses her 2 year old in a public place between activities. They are everywhere, with hidden cameras. Security/background checks will not bar them from employment if they have no criminal convictions and/or are not on a sexual abuser registry.

Currently Maryland has a very weak and ineffectual mandatory reporting law. Clergy are excluded from reporting active sexual abuse of a child if the information is given to them “with an expectation of privacy”. There are no penalties for not reporting, and House Bill 500 currently pending is a Trojan Horse - claims to add penalties but actually makes it impossible to charge anyone with not reporting and has a very limited window for charges after the failure to report. I think it was intentionally structured to protect the Archdiocese of Baltimore from prosecution for not reporting clergy abuse information, but also lets others off the hook. It takes a village to protect the children from sexual abuse - we all have to be vigilant and actively involved.

[Anonymous]

I almost feel as if there need to be cameras in the classrooms. This is the case in daycares. What not schools? We cannot trust the background check system to catch predators bc in many instances, they hide their crimes too well.

Why should teachers expect privacy in the classrooms. I say video feed into the main office. If their is an accusation, it would be a matter of checking the video. Yes, I know $$$... but what other solutions/proposals/actionable items should we be asking for! No more empty action less complaints!

[Anonymous]

March 18, 2018



Dear Parents and Guardians

I am writing to inform you about the March 16, 2018, arrest of Mr. Steven Katz, a substitute teacher for Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS). Mr. Katz has been charged with sexual abuse of a minor and 4th degree sex offense stemming from inappropriate contact with Cloverly Elementary School student. While the charges are unrelated to our school, I am sharing this information with you because Mr. Katz briefly served as a substitute teacher at our school this year. ?

MCPS has been fully cooperating with Child Protective Services, the Montgomery County Police Department (MCPD), and the Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s Office on this matter. Pursuant to our memorandum of understanding with these agencies and MCPS policies and regulations, the Special Victims Investigations Division of MCPD requested the school and the district not to share any details broadly with the community until now to avoid prejudicing the ongoing investigation.?

Mr. Katz has been employed with MCPS as a substitute teacher since May 2017. ?

Mr. Katz was immediately removed from his position as a substitute teacher after MCPS was made aware of the allegations of his actions. ?

The allegations described in the charging documents are very distressing. We do not and will not tolerate this behavior in our school.

School counselors and support staff will be available to provide counseling and support to students as needed. ?

Providing our students with a safe learning environment is our top priority. If you or your child have any information that may be helpful to the investigation, I ask that you call the Special Victims Investigations Division of the Montgomery County Police Department at 240-773-5400.

Sincerely,

Chris B. Nardi

[Anonymous]

We got this same email for Olney ES

[Anonymous]

Before I even saw the PPs comment, I knew there was no way Nardi wrote that email. He's not a person who takes action, he's a person who follows his commanding officer. That's the least of the problems there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We got this same email for Olney ES

Did this sub also work at Olney ES?

We are at a Silver Spring ES and have not received an email.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before I even saw the PPs comment, I knew there was no way Nardi wrote that email. He's not a person who takes action, he's a person who follows his commanding officer. That's the least of the problems there.

None of them write their own emails. It is sent from Central Office and sent out on school stationary with the principal's name filled in. Part of the reason why things take so long to come out to parents--it has to be drafted and approved by a legal team before it's sent out to principals to send out to parents

[Anonymous]

Every email? On every topic? They’re total automatons. No wonder he has no get up and go.