Substitute teacher at DD's MS asks "Why?" when she says she needs to go to the bathroom.

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Anonymous wrote:I was appalled when my daughter told me this. The sub is a male and he's been there a couple of times since the start of the year. She asks him if she can use the bathroom, and he replies, "Why?" Not only is this incredibly inappropriate, it's also flat-out unacceptable. She said she just sort of stammered an answer the first time he asked, then the next time he asked (about a week later), she stared at him until he let her go. Now she's afraid to ask him at all.

I want to email the principal and tell her this has got to stop. No teacher should be interrogating any student (regardless of gender) as to "why" they need to use the bathroom. But my daughter doesn't want me to get involved. She's worried the principal will call her to the office for a chat.

The whole thing makes my skin crawl. Any advice?

Maybe he thought your little princess should have gone between classes, rather than during class time. Sorry I am sure your little princess is perfect and she could not be at fault in any way.

I wouldn't have phrased it so aggressively, but I agree with the sentiment of PP. Classes are less than an hour in length and unless your child has a medical condition there is really no reason she couldn't just wait.

Really? I guess you've never experienced a leaky tampon/pad, or your period coming unexpectedly, or sudden diarrhea. Really happy for you that you've never had any kind of bathroom emergency.

OP's DD asks frequently to use the restroom during class. If she told the Substitute teacher it was an emergency, that probably would be a acceptable answer. This may surprise you but kids go to school to attend, wait for it...., CLASSES. It is easier to learn if you are actually in the classroom. Not to mention why isn't OP contacting the school rather than Whining on DCUM?

OP here. Could you point out exactly where I said my daughter "asks frequently" to use the restroom during class?? I specifically said she asked once, and then once again the following week. Hardly "frequently."

As for "whining on DCUM," I'm simply venting the way each and every other poster here does. You included. And you're a little late - I did contact the school. Try reading more carefully next time.

So, what did the school say? Do tell!

I talked to the Asst. Principal who was lovely. She was appalled that any teacher, even a sub, would do this and she promised to bring it up at their next staff meeting. I was really grateful to her for taking it seriously. It's the first (and hopefully, last) time I've ever contacted a school about anything like this. I was very pleasantly surprised by how receptive she was. Thanks for asking!

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I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

Um, breathe, PP. Because OP hasn't said what school system. What ACPS does may be (and probably is) vastly different from another school system in the area.

I would be interested in seeing you provide some sort of validation of your references to the "ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law".

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

I don't know why some teachers treat the kids like dirt...less than human. If you've got to go, you've got to go. As long as the student isn't constantly asking, I don't know why you wouldn't allow it.

Be a better teacher. And a better person for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

Um, breathe, PP. Because OP hasn't said what school system. What ACPS does may be (and probably is) vastly different from another school system in the area.

I would be interested in seeing you provide some sort of validation of your references to the "ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law".

What do you mean by "validation?" Do you mean, what law? Try checking the statutes themselves. Then check the regulations of the Virginia DOE published in the VAC. Take a look at the case law from Federal courts as well, including the extensive briefing in the California Loma Portal case. A student has a right to use the bathroom in school and any teacher or admin that says no should be individually sued.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

Um, breathe, PP. Because OP hasn't said what school system. What ACPS does may be (and probably is) vastly different from another school system in the area.

I would be interested in seeing you provide some sort of validation of your references to the "ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law".

What do you mean by "validation?" Do you mean, what law? Try checking the statutes themselves. Then check the regulations of the Virginia DOE published in the VAC. Take a look at the case law from Federal courts as well, including the extensive briefing in the California Loma Portal case. A student has a right to use the bathroom in school and any teacher or admin that says no should be individually sued.

I see that you have not provided the specific citations...that is because you cannot because there are none to cite. Ask your parent to help you if you think that I am wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:By MS kids can hold it. Your DD probabaly asks each day. It is what a 40 minute class?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

Ok. I hope my child shits her pants or bleeds profusely on your classroom chairs. Or vomits on your floor.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

I don't know why some teachers treat the kids like dirt...less than human. If you've got to go, you've got to go. As long as the student isn't constantly asking, I don't know why you wouldn't allow it.

Be a better teacher. And a better person for that matter.

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Unless I had a student who was asking constantly during class to use the bathroom, I would ALWAYS let them go, no questions asked. I hope the teacher above has something really awful happen in his or her class. And I hope s/he has to clean it up herself.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't let my students go. They have a break between each class. Class is 60 minutes. Go on your break.

That's not permitted in any Alexandria City public. The bathrooms are locked off during class changes. Congrats teacher - you just committed a violation of the ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law. If it was my kid you did that to ...

Um, breathe, PP. Because OP hasn't said what school system. What ACPS does may be (and probably is) vastly different from another school system in the area.

I would be interested in seeing you provide some sort of validation of your references to the "ADA, the Rehab Act, and Virginia state law".

What do you mean by "validation?" Do you mean, what law? Try checking the statutes themselves. Then check the regulations of the Virginia DOE published in the VAC. Take a look at the case law from Federal courts as well, including the extensive briefing in the California Loma Portal case. A student has a right to use the bathroom in school and any teacher or admin that says no should be individually sued.

Why doesn’t locking the bathroom between classes violate the laws? That’s another form of denying access.

-NP