And I said that where? Get out of your bubble! As long as that's the law of the land, were stuck. And getting it changed involves working within the system, unless you have a better suggestion? BTW, your assumption is offensive, as I'm a former DC voter who's spent the hours waiting to vote in Presidential elections that I know downplay the votes of my R friends in DC. I feel the exact same way about my D friends in WY, AK, SC, MS, ID, etc. and my R friends in NY, MD, CA. These are the rules we are stuck with, at least for now. Giving me crap for putting additional detail to some oft quoted facts serves little purpose beyond your self congratulation and virtue signaling. Good bye. |
PP, your outrage goes way too far. Since when is it "offensive" or "in a bubble" to suggest that every American should have EQUAL representation, regardless of whether they happen to live in a wealthy county or one that voted for HRC instead of Trump?
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Tell me you KNOW where Trump was born. Or GW Bush. Or Bill Clinton. Or GHW Bush. Or Reagan. Or the Queen of England. Tell me you KNOW where you were born. |
I made no claim about my feelings about equal representation of voters. I stated a fact that HRC's margin came in areas that were unrepresentative of the broader society. That's a fact. As long as we are stuck with this system, realizing that a program that caters to broader segments of society and has much more momentum behind is crucial to those who wish to defeat Trump and co. The rules are bad, but they are no surprise. That people who are proud of their fancy educations and who have ample resources miss this is what drives me batty. HRC was simply the embodiment of this delusion. Chuck Schumer and others held it as well. If you dislike Trump, it has proven to be a very bad idea. You've got to up your game, anti-Trump folks! |
No, I am not from Detroit. |
You are wrong. Democrats do use the struggles, but not against whites. It's against the corp elite. Black people were brought over as slaves. We've always considered America to be systematically against us. Manufacturing left cities 30 years ago. When black unemployment went up, we were just considered lazy. When white unemployment increased in the heartland, it was because of NAFTA. |
That's untrue. You just tune out the things we say to minorities. |
What do you mean, "unrepresentative of broader society?" Methinks you are guilty of very insular thinking. What you state as "fact" is not fact. Hillary Clinton lost the swing states by a mere 80,000 votes. As such you can't pretend they were huge victories for Trump. Furthermore, there's not really such a thing as Hillary states or Trump states, nor for that matter not quite even Hillary counties or Trump counties. The country isn't red or blue, it's purple. Just because you talk to like minded individuals doesn't mean that your neighbor two doors down, or your customers, or others agree with you politically. Also, what you refer to as "catering to the broad swaths of society" is on Trump's part lies - for example, he flat out lied to all of those Democratic West Virginia voters when he told them he was bringing coal jobs back. That's not catering, that's deceiving and what Trump did was even more reprehensible than Hillary speaking uncomfortable and inconvenient realities about coal. The broad swaths of America are PURPLE and are not anything the GOP can claim to own exclusively, nor anything they can claim the Dems lost.
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You make it sound like there weren't red states that had millions of blue voters. Heck, the aggregate of WI, PA and MI that tuned the election wouldn't full the UM stadium on game day. |
"War on whites" is just the latest reprehensible manufactured talking point from the GOP. It's just more of the same warmed over Southern Strategy, get poor white folks looking down on poor non-white folks. This kind of nasty GOP tactic is where the race divide comes from. |
Agree. Dems are just mad because their use of identity politics didn't triumph. They thought it would pay off to tell poor white people to check their privilege and to vote for the Dem candidate or else they're racist. Turns out it didn't. |
And this happened... where? |
Have you really not heard anyone suggest that white people are privileged and should acknowledge said privilege? Do you live in the United States? |
Where? Show me where I make that sound like it was case? |
Show me how the counties with the 75 highest household income levels didn't give HRC as margin of more than 2.9M votes? I ran the numbers myself, certified results and the Census's income data. Trump won the electoral college. Clinton won more votes, with more than her ultimate certified margin in the totals coming in those 75 counties. It is a fact. And it's a sign of mis-directed political strategy. The rest of your stuff is obviousness combined with hardcore eye roll material. |