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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This seems like a great strategy for feeling superior and Losing more elections. [/quote] +1. The libs have learned nothing from the election. It's amazing. [/quote] Considering the fact that your orange hero garnered about 3 million less votes , I wouldn't be enthusiastic about telling anyone to learn anything [/quote] The problem with this thinking about HRC wining more votes (officially more like 2.9M) is that you can find all of them and more entirely in the 75 counties with the highest household income. These are areas where only about 14.5M votes were cast out of approximately 136M. I know the electoral college sucks, but it's unfortunately the law of the land. When all of your margin against an orange haired clown comes in concentrated pockets, you're clearly doing it wrong. If you want to defeat Trump and the noxious things he stands for, you've got to generate more enthusiasm in voters outside those 75 counties. [/quote] If you don't think there's nothing wrong with the average citizen of Wyoming having proportionally more representation, for example, than California, you are part of the problem.[/quote] And I said that where? Get out of your bubble! As long as that's the law of the land, were stuck. And getting it changed involves working within the system, unless you have a better suggestion? BTW, your assumption is offensive, as I'm a former DC voter who's spent the hours waiting to vote in Presidential elections that I know downplay the votes of my R friends in DC. I feel the exact same way about my D friends in WY, AK, SC, MS, ID, etc. and my R friends in NY, MD, CA. These are the rules we are stuck with, at least for now. Giving me crap for putting additional detail to some oft quoted facts serves little purpose beyond your self congratulation and virtue signaling. Good bye.[/quote] PP, your outrage goes way too far. Since when is it "offensive" or "in a bubble" to suggest that every American should have EQUAL representation, regardless of whether they happen to live in a wealthy county or one that voted for HRC instead of Trump? :roll:[/quote] I made no claim about my feelings about equal representation of voters. I stated a fact that HRC's margin came in areas that were unrepresentative of the broader society. That's a fact. As long as we are stuck with this system, realizing that a program that caters to broader segments of society and has much more momentum behind is crucial to those who wish to defeat Trump and co. The rules are bad, but they are no surprise. That people who are proud of their fancy educations and who have ample resources miss this is what drives me batty. HRC was simply the embodiment of this delusion. Chuck Schumer and others held it as well. If you dislike Trump, it has proven to be a very bad idea. You've got to up your game, anti-Trump folks![/quote] What do you mean, "unrepresentative of broader society?" Methinks you are guilty of very insular thinking. [b]What you state as "fact" is not fact.[/b] Hillary Clinton lost the swing states by a mere 80,000 votes. As such you can't pretend they were huge victories for Trump. Furthermore, there's not really such a thing as Hillary states or Trump states, nor for that matter not quite even Hillary counties or Trump counties. The country isn't red or blue, it's purple. Just because you talk to like minded individuals doesn't mean that your neighbor two doors down, or your customers, or others agree with you politically. Also, what you refer to as "catering to the broad swaths of society" is on Trump's part lies - for example, he flat out lied to all of those Democratic West Virginia voters when he told them he was bringing coal jobs back. That's not catering, that's deceiving and what Trump did was even more reprehensible than Hillary speaking uncomfortable and inconvenient realities about coal. The broad swaths of America are PURPLE and are not anything the GOP can claim to own exclusively, nor anything they can claim the Dems lost. [/quote] Show me how the counties with the 75 highest household income levels didn't give HRC as margin of more than 2.9M votes? I ran the numbers myself, certified results and the Census's income data. Trump won the electoral college. Clinton won more votes, with more than her ultimate certified margin in the totals coming in those 75 counties. It is a fact. And it's a sign of mis-directed political strategy. The rest of your stuff is obviousness combined with hardcore eye roll material.[/quote]
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