Detroit Man Saves Himself and His Wife from Home Invaders

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Anonymous wrote:Most Americans are far too stupid to be allowed to own guns.


Are you an American?


Yes. The amount of stupidity in America is breathtaking. Most of them shouldn't be allowed to vote, either.


If those are your beliefs...you're not an American


I'm very much an American. BTW,, this is consistent with what the Framers believed, too.


Actually you're incorrect. Well-known and well documented the framers physicians on firearm ownership, they believe everyone has a right to own one


Please stop acting so oblivious to the whole militia thing. Good grief. Did you know that our founding fathers also thought the constitution should be rewritten every 20 years because they did not want the dead to rule the living? Not saying we should do that. Just acknowledging that it is our decision, not theirs, to keep it. So let's stop using them as a scapegoat. The blood is on our hands. Not theirs.


So you have no arguments. And you're talking of one guy, TJ who said something along those lines.

The militia argument is old and tired:

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention

The other founding fathers expressed similar sentiment. The milita argument has been disproven multiple times.


Oh, ok. So militia means whole people? As in every single person? Children, mentally ill, criminals? They should all have access to any gun they want? So my toddler can run around town with an AR-15?
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well, of course your toddler should be able to have a gun. I mean, there are bad toddlers with guns. Plus, if parents just teach their toddlers proper technique with a firearm when they can't even properly feed themselves...
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Anonymous wrote:OP, I really would like for you to answer this question. Why do you feel this story is more significant than all of the accidental gun deaths...which occur daily? Seriously, please tell me why THIS is the gun story you chose to call our attention to.


PP, I really would like for you to answer this question. Why do you feel accidental gun death stories is more significant than all of the accidental car deaths...which occur far more frequently daily. Seriously, please tell me why THIS is the accidental death story you chose to call our attention to.


That is a stupid analogy and you know it. If half of the country were advocating for the right of every american to drive a car, without being accountable for that car, with no questions asked...then I would in fact be pointing out the senseless deaths where toddlers would be killing toddlers with cars on a regular basis.

It's not the same thing. We all agree that we shouldn't leave kids unattended in a car with the ignition running, even if we've attempted to teach tham car safety. But millions of Americans will leave them in a home with an unsecure g


You are aware there is no federal registry of car owners, right? Many states also does not require vehicle registration if the vehicle is only operated on private land. The title itself is most often a bearer document: it's not rendered invalid when transferred. So one private individual could sign the title over to another private individual without ever being required to let the state know of the transfer.

Yet we don't have a call on a federal car owner registry as a way to combat car accidents or vehicular crimes.


If my car is used in a crime, it will easily be traced back to me. I am held accountable for the car. I'm not going to sell my car to some dude without taking the proper steps to turn ownership over to him Because if that car is used in a crime, I will need to prove that I was no longer in possession of it.

After Sandy Hook, DH gave all his guns away. They were family heirlooms. He gave them to a relative who has a farm, and therefore has a need for a gun. But it seemed absurd to us that he had been in possession of those guns since middle school, but had no legal ties to them. If they were used in a crime, they could never be traced back to him. It was too easy to just hand them over in our driveway in a 30 second transaction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans are far too stupid to be allowed to own guns.


Are you an American?


Yes. The amount of stupidity in America is breathtaking. Most of them shouldn't be allowed to vote, either.


If those are your beliefs...you're not an American


I'm very much an American. BTW,, this is consistent with what the Framers believed, too.


Actually you're incorrect. Well-known and well documented the framers physicians on firearm ownership, they believe everyone has a right to own one


Please stop acting so oblivious to the whole militia thing. Good grief. Did you know that our founding fathers also thought the constitution should be rewritten every 20 years because they did not want the dead to rule the living? Not saying we should do that. Just acknowledging that it is our decision, not theirs, to keep it. So let's stop using them as a scapegoat. The blood is on our hands. Not theirs.


So you have no arguments. And you're talking of one guy, TJ who said something along those lines.

The militia argument is old and tired:

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention

The other founding fathers expressed similar sentiment. The milita argument has been disproven multiple times.


Oh, ok. So militia means whole people? As in every single person? Children, mentally ill, criminals? They should all have access to any gun they want? So my toddler can run around town with an AR-15?


Felons lose theoreticians, they don't count. And yes, unless you have reading comprehension issues, it means all capable people.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans are far too stupid to be allowed to own guns.


Are you an American?


Yes. The amount of stupidity in America is breathtaking. Most of them shouldn't be allowed to vote, either.


If those are your beliefs...you're not an American


I'm very much an American. BTW,, this is consistent with what the Framers believed, too.


Actually you're incorrect. Well-known and well documented the framers physicians on firearm ownership, they believe everyone has a right to own one


Please stop acting so oblivious to the whole militia thing. Good grief. Did you know that our founding fathers also thought the constitution should be rewritten every 20 years because they did not want the dead to rule the living? Not saying we should do that. Just acknowledging that it is our decision, not theirs, to keep it. So let's stop using them as a scapegoat. The blood is on our hands. Not theirs.


So you have no arguments. And you're talking of one guy, TJ who said something along those lines.

The militia argument is old and tired:

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
during Virginia's Convention

The other founding fathers expressed similar sentiment. The milita argument has been disproven multiple times.


And the Congress authorized a standing Army and Navy thus obviating the need for a well-regulated militia.


Irrelevant. If that were the case, the Constitution would have been amended to show that fact. It hasn't been so your argument -much like your opinion- is worthless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I really would like for you to answer this question. Why do you feel this story is more significant than all of the accidental gun deaths...which occur daily? Seriously, please tell me why THIS is the gun story you chose to call our attention to.


PP, I really would like for you to answer this question. Why do you feel accidental gun death stories is more significant than all of the accidental car deaths...which occur far more frequently daily. Seriously, please tell me why THIS is the accidental death story you chose to call our attention to.


That is a stupid analogy and you know it. If half of the country were advocating for the right of every american to drive a car, without being accountable for that car, with no questions asked...then I would in fact be pointing out the senseless deaths where toddlers would be killing toddlers with cars on a regular basis.

It's not the same thing. We all agree that we shouldn't leave kids unattended in a car with the ignition running, even if we've attempted to teach tham car safety. But millions of Americans will leave them in a home with an unsecure g


You are aware there is no federal registry of car owners, right? Many states also does not require vehicle registration if the vehicle is only operated on private land. The title itself is most often a bearer document: it's not rendered invalid when transferred. So one private individual could sign the title over to another private individual without ever being required to let the state know of the transfer.

Yet we don't have a call on a federal car owner registry as a way to combat car accidents or vehicular crimes.


If my car is used in a crime, it will easily be traced back to me. I am held accountable for the car. I'm not going to sell my car to some dude without taking the proper steps to turn ownership over to him Because if that car is used in a crime, I will need to prove that I was no longer in possession of it.

After Sandy Hook, DH gave all his guns away. They were family heirlooms. He gave them to a relative who has a farm, and therefore has a need for a gun. But it seemed absurd to us that he had been in possession of those guns since middle school, but had no legal ties to them. If they were used in a crime, they could never be traced back to him. It was too easy to just hand them over in our driveway in a 30 second transaction.


Umm...good for your husband? No one cares what he or you do.

If you think cars aren't borrowed and sold without records than you're more naive then your post lets on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:well, of course your toddler should be able to have a gun. I mean, there are bad toddlers with guns. Plus, if parents just teach their toddlers proper technique with a firearm when they can't even properly feed themselves...


If you're stupid enough to do it, that's on you.

Stop being obtuse, no one is saying mi it's and toddlers should have guns. Law abiding adults should.

Let me ask you this, someone is breaking into your home. You and your wife are there, you call the police. How much time do you believe you have? There is a family in DC who was tortured and killed last year in their home. I'm willing to bet he wished he'd had some way to protect his family.

I'll say it again. Those who want to take away the ability for people to protect themselves or their families are cowards. They wouldn't stand up to someone attempting to inflict harm to their families. Or, they live in nice neighborhoods and live in this bubble where things like this don't happen to them (it does as evidenced by that family in DC a couple of years ago).

Until then, I'll continue to exercise my rights of protecting my family and hunting. I feel safe knowing I have an option to defend myself, and I'm capable of putting food on the table of need be the old fashioned way.

The rest of you have the right not to do that, but be warned. I called the cops because Insaw a break-in in a house in my neighborhood at 2AM. Cops took 15 minutes to arrive. I timed it. If someone had been in that house, they'd probably be dead.
Anonymous
Why is a gun the only way to defend yourself? There are plenty of other options.

My husband was a baseball player and keeps a bat at the ready in our bedroom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is a gun the only way to defend yourself? There are plenty of other options.

My husband was a baseball player and keeps a bat at the ready in our bedroom.


Ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? Chances are a bats are just as ineffective.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why is a gun the only way to defend yourself? There are plenty of other options.

My husband was a baseball player and keeps a bat at the ready in our bedroom.


Ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? Chances are a bats are just as ineffective.


Look, we've had break ins in our neighborhood. None of them were armed home invasions. The perpetrators didn't have guns. One of them was scared away by someone just yelling at them loudly.

I just don't live my life worrying a gun fight could break out in my house at any time.

Not to mention, there are plenty of times when mistakes have occurred. Like the teen in sterling a year or so ago who was drunk and climbed into the wrong window and was killed by their neighbor. I could never forgive myself for killing someone who wasn't intending to hurt me.
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Anonymous wrote:One was an accident. The other was deliberately evil. We have the second to protect ourselves from such evil.


An accident that was entirely preventable.


Kids drown in pools and lakes. That's preventable too.


Pools don't exist for the sole purpose of bringing about death. Bad analogy. Offensive, even.


True. Guns don't exist for the sole purpose of bringing about death. At least, to people.

Haters gonna hate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is a gun the only way to defend yourself? There are plenty of other options.

My husband was a baseball player and keeps a bat at the ready in our bedroom.


Ever heard don't bring a knife to a gun fight? Chances are a bats are just as ineffective.


Look, we've had break ins in our neighborhood. None of them were armed home invasions. The perpetrators didn't have guns. One of them was scared away by someone just yelling at them loudly.

I just don't live my life worrying a gun fight could break out in my house at any time.

Not to mention, there are plenty of times when mistakes have occurred. Like the teen in sterling a year or so ago who was drunk and climbed into the wrong window and was killed by their neighbor. I could never forgive myself for killing someone who wasn't intending to hurt me.


Can we at least agree that you may live your life however you choose, but so do other people? Not everybody is like. I know, terrible.
Anonymous
I didn't say you can't have a gun if you feel you need it for protection.

But stop calling others cowards who don't need or want them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most Americans are far too stupid to be allowed to own guns.


Are you an American?


Yes. The amount of stupidity in America is breathtaking. Most of them shouldn't be allowed to vote, either.


+1 million
Anonymous
Take away all of the guns. Let this end.
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