Is Trump racist?

[Anonymous]

OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:This question is covered pretty well in this thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545545.page

Trump frames his statements to appeal to white identity politics. It is a classic case of blaming all of America's ills on "them", the "them" being blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, women, the disabled, etc., depending on the issue at hand. If a black person can't find a job, according to Trump that person lacks spirit. If a white Christian male can't find a job, it is because the job was either sent to Mexico or taken by an illegal immigrant. Whether this is racism or cynical politics is a question that we can't answer.

I'd love to know when Trump said any of the above.

You must be one of the least informed posters to ever set foot in this forum:

"Donald Trump says African-American youths 'have no spirit'"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-says-african-american-youths-have-no-spirit-10342030.html

So, according to your source, he never said African-American youths "have no spirit". Please try again.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-storms-phoenix-119989
"I love the Mexican people … I respect Mexico … but the problem we have is that their leaders are much sharper, smarter and more cunning than our leaders, and they’re killing us at the border," said Trump, in front of a giant American flag at the Saturday afternoon rally at the Phoenix convention center. He added, "They’re taking our jobs. They’re taking our manufacturing jobs. They’re taking our money. They’re killing us."

Again, according to your source above, he never said that white Christian men [your assertion above] can't get jobs because of Mexicans or illegals.

What other statement that I made do you need documented? I really can't believe everything I wrote is not common knowledge.

I'd rather not have any other statements documented by you, you seem to be ill informed.

I guess if you are not willing to see what is right in front of your face, there is no way to inform you of anything. The sources I provided clearly document what I said they do.

What is strange is that I suspect that you support everything Trump says, yet you deny that he says it. That is really strange behavior.

What I find really strange is that your sources don't support any of your claims, but you keep claiming they do.

I'm sure you impress the libs on this board, but it's really pathetic.

The first claim is that Trump said that African-American youths "have no spirit". Here what the source I referenced said:

"Mr Trump said that African-American youth had reached 'a point where they've just about never done more poorly, there's no spirit'"

Apparently, that is not literal enough for you. So, I retract my statement that Trump said "African-American youths have no spirit." Rather, Trump said, "There's no spirit" while referring to African-American youth.

My second quote is well-documented in the text I quoted. Tell me PP, do you believe that Mexicans are taking our jobs? Do you believe that or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:This question is covered pretty well in this thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545545.page

Trump frames his statements to appeal to white identity politics. It is a classic case of blaming all of America's ills on "them", the "them" being blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, women, the disabled, etc., depending on the issue at hand. If a black person can't find a job, according to Trump that person lacks spirit. If a white Christian male can't find a job, it is because the job was either sent to Mexico or taken by an illegal immigrant. Whether this is racism or cynical politics is a question that we can't answer.

And he signed the crime bill too, right? Or was that Monica Lewinsky's boyfriend?

[Anonymous]

What policies make Trump racist?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:This question is covered pretty well in this thread:

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545545.page

Trump frames his statements to appeal to white identity politics. It is a classic case of blaming all of America's ills on "them", the "them" being blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, women, the disabled, etc., depending on the issue at hand. If a black person can't find a job, according to Trump that person lacks spirit. If a white Christian male can't find a job, it is because the job was either sent to Mexico or taken by an illegal immigrant. Whether this is racism or cynical politics is a question that we can't answer.

I'd love to know when Trump said any of the above.

You must be one of the least informed posters to ever set foot in this forum:

"Donald Trump says African-American youths 'have no spirit'"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-says-african-american-youths-have-no-spirit-10342030.html

So, according to your source, he never said African-American youths "have no spirit". Please try again.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/donald-trump-storms-phoenix-119989
"I love the Mexican people … I respect Mexico … but the problem we have is that their leaders are much sharper, smarter and more cunning than our leaders, and they’re killing us at the border," said Trump, in front of a giant American flag at the Saturday afternoon rally at the Phoenix convention center. He added, "They’re taking our jobs. They’re taking our manufacturing jobs. They’re taking our money. They’re killing us."

Again, according to your source above, he never said that white Christian men [your assertion above] can't get jobs because of Mexicans or illegals.

What other statement that I made do you need documented? I really can't believe everything I wrote is not common knowledge.

I'd rather not have any other statements documented by you, you seem to be ill informed.

I guess if you are not willing to see what is right in front of your face, there is no way to inform you of anything. The sources I provided clearly document what I said they do.

What is strange is that I suspect that you support everything Trump says, yet you deny that he says it. That is really strange behavior.

What I find really strange is that your sources don't support any of your claims, but you keep claiming they do.

I'm sure you impress the libs on this board, but it's really pathetic.

The first claim is that Trump said that African-American youths "have no spirit". Here what the source I referenced said:

"Mr Trump said that African-American youth had reached 'a point where they've just about never done more poorly, there's no spirit'"

Apparently, that is not literal enough for you. So, I retract my statement that Trump said "African-American youths have no spirit." Rather, Trump said, "There's no spirit" while referring to African-American youth.

My second quote is well-documented in the text I quoted. Tell me PP, do you believe that Mexicans are taking our jobs? Do you believe that or not?

Looks like reading isn't your strong suit. It's laughable that you continue to make up things he didn't say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

You missed the part where it was for a.limited time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

Obama out a ban on Iraq refugees in 2011
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/hypocrite_obama_ordered_a_6month_pause_in_processing_muslim_refugees_in_2011_comments.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

You missed the part where it was for a.limited time.

Well, "until we can figure things out" is not particularly time limited, is it? So a total ban for however long he likes. Based solely on the criterion of religion. Explain to us how that's not bigoted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

Obama out a ban on Iraq refugees in 2011
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/hypocrite_obama_ordered_a_6month_pause_in_processing_muslim_refugees_in_2011_comments.html

Yeah, because ordering a time-limited (6 mos) pause on processing refugees (or any religion from what I can tell) from a country where we had recently been at war *after* clear evidence of a problem with our screening process in order to review and improve said screening process is exactly the same as indefinitely "pausing" immigration of all people from anywhere in the world based solely on their religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

Obama out a ban on Iraq refugees in 2011
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/hypocrite_obama_ordered_a_6month_pause_in_processing_muslim_refugees_in_2011_comments.html

Yeah, because ordering a time-limited (6 mos) pause on processing refugees (or any religion from what I can tell) from a country where we had recently been at war *after* clear evidence of a problem with our screening process in order to review and improve said screening process is exactly the same as indefinitely "pausing" immigration of all people from anywhere in the world based solely on their religion.

Trump just wants a ban temporarily as we get a better system in place for screening. We have ISIS committing terrible attacks and Europe with intentions of doing it here. I don't think Trump's position is unreasonable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

You missed the part where it was for a.limited time.

NP here. A ban is a ban. Doesn't matter whether it is for an undefined period of time. Policies are usually for a period of time. It is still bigoted. Refugees already go through very rigorous screening befor being allowed to come to the US. Admittedly he may not know this. But the. He should not say anything without becoming informed.

It is certainly evidence that he is a bigot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

You missed the part where it was for a.limited time.

NP here. A ban is a ban. Doesn't matter whether it is for an undefined period of time. Policies are usually for a period of time. It is still bigoted. Refugees already go through very rigorous screening befor being allowed to come to the US. Admittedly he may not know this. But the. He should not say anything without becoming informed.

It is certainly evidence that he is a bigot.

Several Intelligence directors would disagree with this statement.

n addition, McCaul has warned that an influx of Syrian refugees fleeing the ongoing chaos provides a perfect opportunity for Islamic extremists to slip into the U.S. or another country undetected.

“This causes a great concern on the part of policymakers, because we don’t want to be complicit with a program that could bring potential terrorists into the United States,” McCaul said.

On Capitol Hill, top intelligence and law enforcement officials have testified that “gaps” in intelligence about the refugees leave them with some worries.

McCaul on Sunday said that he had spoken with officials at the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, who “they tell me this cannot be properly done.”

“We don’t have the databases to vet them.”

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260213-house-chairman-gaping-holes-on-refugees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OK, PP. In December, Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Please explain to us how categorical discrimination based on religion is not bigoted.

Umm, he didn't say that. Try again.

What do you mean, he didn't say it?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration

You missed the part where it was for a.limited time.

NP here. A ban is a ban. Doesn't matter whether it is for an undefined period of time. Policies are usually for a period of time. It is still bigoted. Refugees already go through very rigorous screening befor being allowed to come to the US. Admittedly he may not know this. But the. He should not say anything without becoming informed.

It is certainly evidence that he is a bigot.

So after the terrorist attack in California you want no changes to our immigration policy? We should just let known radical Wahhabist into this country? This is what trump was talking about. Admittedly you should known that those people were screened, but our screening failed to show any problems. So Trump talked about stopping immigration for Muslim after California attack and after the Paris attack. He wants a stop till the system is fixed. Most normal people thought that would mean no immigration from countries like Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc until the system for screening worked. It is at best disingenuous and a lie to say he wants a permanent ban on Muslims. He wants the system fix. I guess that is unlike you? I really question what your solution is to the problem which resulted in the deaths of Americans who were replying on the U.S. to screen and identify these type of people. Calling people a bigot is a good start, but does little to address the problem.