The DNC is a joke

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I clicked on this thinking it was going to be about how the Sanders campaign accessed confidential data from the Clinton campaign and tried to blame it on the DNC and the software vendor. The DNC won't allow Bernie to access the data again until they explain why they accessed another campaign's confidential data and who was involved. They also have to demonstrate that they didn't download and keep any data. The campaign fired their digital director but four accounts were used to access the Clinton data.

I thought that's what it was about too, but honestly it feels like a ploy to discredit Sanders because he scares them.

It's all a conspiracy. When Bernie says he won't run negative ads but then runs negative ads, it's a conspiracy. When Bernie says he won't accept super pac support but does accept super pac support, it's a conspiracy. When Bernie's campaign violates voters' privacy by accessing confidential data with four different user accounts, it's a conspiracy.

Straight out of Hillary's playbook, if so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I clicked on this thinking it was going to be about how the Sanders campaign accessed confidential data from the Clinton campaign and tried to blame it on the DNC and the software vendor. The DNC won't allow Bernie to access the data again until they explain why they accessed another campaign's confidential data and who was involved. They also have to demonstrate that they didn't download and keep any data. The campaign fired their digital director but four accounts were used to access the Clinton data.

I thought that's what it was about too, but honestly it feels like a ploy to discredit Sanders because he scares them.

It's all a conspiracy. When Bernie says he won't run negative ads but then runs negative ads, it's a conspiracy. When Bernie says he won't accept super pac support but does accept super pac support, it's a conspiracy. When Bernie's campaign violates voters' privacy by accessing confidential data with four different user accounts, it's a conspiracy.

Straight out of Hillary's playbook, if so.

And suing the DNC is apparently right out of Bernie's playbook. He just filed a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In my view, the headline should read "DNC can't protect candidates data." Of course, I have so many questions and thoughts -

1. What is the big deal anyway? The party should let all democratic candidates have access to all potential voter information. More open information will only serve the party to get the best candidate. Is it so bad that Berne and Hilary send an emails to each's others lists and supporters. i don't get it.

2. If this is a problem, why is the DNC even putting candidates at risk for headlines like this?

3. Bernie's campaign is pushing back aggressively. This makes me think there is more to the story. If this turns out to be some internal feud where the establishment folks are trying to make Bernie look bad, then I think this will backfire for the establishment folks and HRC.

4. The main argument I keep hearing against Bernie is that he can't win. That is not all that convincing to me. I even see polls where he would beat every Republican candidate. Many of us support Bernie/Warren types over Wall St candidates because we want change. Change is not going to come by just supporting the status quo. Someone has to take a risk. The world gets warmer, Wall St. get's richer, terrorists get bolder and the current policies keep on chugging...

This is my reaction too.

Have you ever worked on a presidential campaign?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my view, the headline should read "DNC can't protect candidates data." Of course, I have so many questions and thoughts -

1. What is the big deal anyway? The party should let all democratic candidates have access to all potential voter information. More open information will only serve the party to get the best candidate. Is it so bad that Berne and Hilary send an emails to each's others lists and supporters. i don't get it.

2. If this is a problem, why is the DNC even putting candidates at risk for headlines like this?

3. Bernie's campaign is pushing back aggressively. This makes me think there is more to the story. If this turns out to be some internal feud where the establishment folks are trying to make Bernie look bad, then I think this will backfire for the establishment folks and HRC.

4. The main argument I keep hearing against Bernie is that he can't win. That is not all that convincing to me. I even see polls where he would beat every Republican candidate. Many of us support Bernie/Warren types over Wall St candidates because we want change. Change is not going to come by just supporting the status quo. Someone has to take a risk. The world gets warmer, Wall St. get's richer, terrorists get bolder and the current policies keep on chugging...

This is my reaction too.

Have you ever worked on a presidential campaign?

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my view, the headline should read "DNC can't protect candidates data." Of course, I have so many questions and thoughts -

1. What is the big deal anyway? The party should let all democratic candidates have access to all potential voter information. More open information will only serve the party to get the best candidate. Is it so bad that Berne and Hilary send an emails to each's others lists and supporters. i don't get it.

2. If this is a problem, why is the DNC even putting candidates at risk for headlines like this?

3. Bernie's campaign is pushing back aggressively. This makes me think there is more to the story. If this turns out to be some internal feud where the establishment folks are trying to make Bernie look bad, then I think this will backfire for the establishment folks and HRC.

4. The main argument I keep hearing against Bernie is that he can't win. That is not all that convincing to me. I even see polls where he would beat every Republican candidate. Many of us support Bernie/Warren types over Wall St candidates because we want change. Change is not going to come by just supporting the status quo. Someone has to take a risk. The world gets warmer, Wall St. get's richer, terrorists get bolder and the current policies keep on chugging...

This is my reaction too.

Have you ever worked on a presidential campaign?

Nope.

Got it. Data are important.

[Anonymous]

What Bernie Sanders should do is to make it clear that if the DNC does not treat him fairly, he will run a third party campaign.

Will Sanders win - no he will not. But it will for sure sabotage Hillary's chances of winning the presidency.

DWS, is so totally biased in favor of Hillary and wants to do everything she can to safeguard her candidacy. It is just pathetic and I would support Sanders all the way if he decided that enough is enough and unless there is some semblance of fairness he is ready to just run as an independent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What Bernie Sanders should do is to make it clear that if the DNC does not treat him fairly, he will run a third party campaign.

Will Sanders win - no he will not. But it will for sure sabotage Hillary's chances of winning the presidency.

DWS, is so totally biased in favor of Hillary and wants to do everything she can to safeguard her candidacy. It is just pathetic and I would support Sanders all the way if he decided that enough is enough and unless there is some semblance of fairness he is ready to just run as an independent.

Well, he just sued the DNC, so you might get your wish. A lawsuit is a pretty massive escalation.

[Anonymous]

I find it a bit stupid for the Democratic candidates to fundraise obscene amounts of money (mostly to pay for future TV ads) white AT THE SAME TIME they ignore the most amazing and free TV platform they could be using right now.

[Anonymous]

What a surprise that DWS wants to "mizle" Bernie.

[Anonymous]

Who could imagine that Hillary, who circulated photos of Obama in tribal dress and openly wondered if he did cocaine and said he's not a Muslim "as far as I know" would play dirty with Bernie? The game was rigged as soon as he entered the race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who could imagine that Hillary, who circulated photos of Obama in tribal dress and openly wondered if he did cocaine and said he's not a Muslim "as far as I know" would play dirty with Bernie? The game was rigged as soon as he entered the race.

She did none of those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a surprise that DWS wants to "mizle" Bernie.

DWS said Bernie didn't know about this until she told him yesterday. Seriously. It happened Wednesday morning!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What Bernie Sanders should do is to make it clear that if the DNC does not treat him fairly, he will run a third party campaign.

Will Sanders win - no he will not. But it will for sure sabotage Hillary's chances of winning the presidency.

DWS, is so totally biased in favor of Hillary and wants to do everything she can to safeguard her candidacy. It is just pathetic and I would support Sanders all the way if he decided that enough is enough and unless there is some semblance of fairness he is ready to just run as an independent.

Well, he just sued the DNC, so you might get your wish. A lawsuit is a pretty massive escalation.

The DNC has been deliberately sabotaging Sanders for a long time now. This BS over the database was apparently the last straw.

[Anonymous]

I had pretty much decided that I could not possibly vote for Hillary and that I would sit out the election if she was the nominee.

This whole sorry episode has confirmed that I am doing the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In my view, the headline should read "DNC can't protect candidates data." Of course, I have so many questions and thoughts -

1. What is the big deal anyway? The party should let all democratic candidates have access to all potential voter information. More open information will only serve the party to get the best candidate. Is it so bad that Berne and Hilary send an emails to each's others lists and supporters. i don't get it.

2. If this is a problem, why is the DNC even putting candidates at risk for headlines like this?

3. Bernie's campaign is pushing back aggressively. This makes me think there is more to the story. If this turns out to be some internal feud where the establishment folks are trying to make Bernie look bad, then I think this will backfire for the establishment folks and HRC.

4. The main argument I keep hearing against Bernie is that he can't win. That is not all that convincing to me. I even see polls where he would beat every Republican candidate. Many of us support Bernie/Warren types over Wall St candidates because we want change. Change is not going to come by just supporting the status quo. Someone has to take a risk. The world gets warmer, Wall St. get's richer, terrorists get bolder and the current policies keep on chugging...

This is my reaction too.

+2 Same here...