What is the Test for Highly Gifted Program Like?

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HGC is not heavily math/stem focused. It's much more of a language arts program. So, maybe that kid might not have done as well at HGC.

Reading/writing and STEM are not mutually exclusive.

No, but a program that is heavily STEM focused is not the same as a more language arts based one. Hence, in MS, they start separating STEM from LA type magnets. It's also why in ES, they have a separate program for advanced math learners - compacted math. A child can be in one program but not the other. There are some kids in HGC that are not in compacted math, and several in compacted math but not in HGC.

At my child's HGC, every fourth-grader in the HGC is in compacted math, according to the teacher at back-to-school night.

That's just the case for your particular class.

exactly! At my child's HGC, there are a couple not in compacted math.

More than 20% of the students in my child's HGC grade are not in compacted math. And the HGC said that they had students not in compacted math last year who were accepted to the TPMS magnet.

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More than 20% of the students in my child's HGC grade are not in compacted math. And the HGC said that they had students not in compacted math last year who were accepted to the TPMS magnet.

PP with the all-compacted-math fourth-grade HGC here. I am very surprised to read this, especially because I thought that my child's HGC had the lowest median test scores for accepted students.

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More than 20% of the students in my child's HGC grade are not in compacted math. And the HGC said that they had students not in compacted math last year who were accepted to the TPMS magnet.

PP with the all-compacted-math fourth-grade HGC here. I am very surprised to read this, especially because I thought that my child's HGC had the lowest median test scores for accepted students.

I think people assume that a child in HGC is "gifted" in all academic areas. That's not true. The compacted math assessment is different from the quantitative portion of the HGC test. Yes, most of the kids in HGC are in compacted math because their overall abilities are just higher. But, some kids are not as strong in math, even compared to non-"gfited" kids.

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More than 20% of the students in my child's HGC grade are not in compacted math. And the HGC said that they had students not in compacted math last year who were accepted to the TPMS magnet.

PP with the all-compacted-math fourth-grade HGC here. I am very surprised to read this, especially because I thought that my child's HGC had the lowest median test scores for accepted students.

I think people assume that a child in HGC is "gifted" in all academic areas. That's not true. The compacted math assessment is different from the quantitative portion of the HGC test. Yes, most of the kids in HGC are in compacted math because their overall abilities are just higher. But, some kids are not as strong in math, even compared to non-"gfited" kids.

That doesn't explain why one HGC would have 0% not in compacted math and another HGC would have >20%.

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I never helped my kids with homework, I feel to go to a magnet you need to be a motivated self starter. Besides either you can do the work it you can't. Truly gifted kids thrive on the challenge to try to do well. I know of no tutored kid in Magnet middle or HS, if your kid needs that than they are in the wrong program.

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Anonymous wrote:I never helped my kids with homework, I feel to go to a magnet you need to be a motivated self starter. Besides either you can do the work it you can't. Truly gifted kids thrive on the challenge to try to do well. I know of no tutored kid in Magnet middle or HS, if your kid needs that than they are in the wrong program.

But many kids in magnet MS and HS did prep class even though they need no tutor while in the program.

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Anonymous wrote:I never helped my kids with homework, I feel to go to a magnet you need to be a motivated self starter. Besides either you can do the work it you can't. Truly gifted kids thrive on the challenge to try to do well. I know of no tutored kid in Magnet middle or HS, if your kid needs that than they are in the wrong program.

But many kids in magnet MS and HS did prep class even though they need no tutor while in the program.

I don't think that anybody has any idea how many kids in the magnet middle schools and high schools prepped, or how many kids prepped and didn't get in.

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The kids all prepared and prepped well!

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It's 20% in regular math at our HGC.

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I don't think that anybody has any idea how many kids in the magnet middle schools and high schools prepped, or how many kids prepped and didn't get in.

Please, some of us are not members of a Republican cabal of illiteracy, low IQ, and stupidity. All of these ambitious and hard working kids prepped for entrance into the middle and high school magnet programs. Only a fool (n = ) thinks that the only method of prep is to take one of a million commercial studio courses on the market!!

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I don't think that anybody has any idea how many kids in the magnet middle schools and high schools prepped, or how many kids prepped and didn't get in.

Please, some of us are not members of a Republican cabal of illiteracy, low IQ, and stupidity. All of these ambitious and hard working kids prepped for entrance into the middle and high school magnet programs. Only a fool (n = ) thinks that the only method of prep is to take one of a million commercial studio courses on the market!!

When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

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Anonymous wrote:The kids all prepared and prepped well!

+ 1.

And they will continue to prep and do more than what the school requires and teaches.

Good luck to any school system that is trying to close the achievement gap by dumbing down curriculum, because the gap will become wider as more and more kids prep and learn outside of the school system.

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When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

..."only in the eye of the 'PC" beholder"

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When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

..."only in the eye of the 'PC" beholder"

You haven't read Through The Looking Glass, have you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I never helped my kids with homework, I feel to go to a magnet you need to be a motivated self starter. Besides either you can do the work it you can't. Truly gifted kids thrive on the challenge to try to do well. I know of no tutored kid in Magnet middle or HS, if your kid needs that than they are in the wrong program.

Uh, there are truly gifted kids who are slackers and not motivated at all. What you "feel" is irrelevant.. Talented/gifted is very different from motivated. The HGC is actually full of not so gifted hyper motivated students.