The current weave, wig, fake straight hair trend among black women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to look white and complain about being oppressed, embrace your ethnic background and try not to emulate hollywood stereotypes of beauty. If you don't you have yourself to blame.

See ...shit like this is what makes threads like these trash.

I'm black, my hair is to my waist and I occasionally straighten it. Didn't realize by doing that I was trying to look white which is pretty impossible considering my complexion is a deep mahogany. Thought I was just minding my own business and styling my hair lol.

As for emulating Hollywood and standards of beauty, you have no idea how psychology and pop culture work. To the little black girls who turn on the TV or pick up magazines and see beauty defined as everything that doesn't look like them, why wouldn't they try to emulate those looks in an attempt to also be seen as beautiful by society? Well those little girls grow up to be women and the mentality doesn't go away just because a few white people start swooning over Lupita Nyongo or one biracial chick walks in a NYFW show.

The "blame" lies with the people who refuse to include other ethnic backgrounds, through movie roles, model choices, target marketing campaigns, etc, as acceptable standards of beauty. And people like you. Who just suck.

[Anonymous]

PP I'm glad you captured that post before it was deleted. It is an excellent example of how unnecessarily inflammatory this kind of thread is.

There are a host of ways anyone who is seriously interested could find out about why black women makes the style choices they make without sounding the dog whistle to all the cowardly racists who would never dare actually say this nonsense to someone's face.

I'm not even going to speculate on what legitimate reasons there could be for getting into this kind of discussion on or offline.

[Anonymous]

Thanks you two PPs. OP or any person that thinks only white women can wear weaves because it's "believable" (don't get me started on the insinuation that only while people that once upon a time should be able to have blonde hair as opposed to Beyoncé because it's believeable), do you have a problem with white women that go to tanning salons or wear bronzer? What about false eyelashes or makeup as a whole. The whole comment about Beyoncé/blonde hair really offended me (does it make a difference if Beyoncé is part French?), but then I came across the Vineyard clothing line thread also in this beauty and I saw similar comments about blacks wearing Tommy, Ralph Lauren, Lacoste etc. Forget that Lacoste was founded by a black French man. I swear I think DCUM is a place where people can come show their racist views with no fear/repercussion. It's quite scary knowing that many of these posters could be my friends, co-workers etc. This thread is not informative at all. One can google "how do weaves work) or simply image search and see MANY women white and black have them.

[Anonymous]

One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

So now this thread isn't going anywhere because black women are sensitive? Never mind the fact that PPs have clearly said they should wear weaves because it's not believeable. Never mind the dozens of pictures of white women that spend hundreds/thousands to get weaves in DC, never mind that white women go to tanning salons in droves to get darker skin that what is "believeable", yes I would be offended and defended when these people are asking not-so-innocent questions about MY hair. They didn't ask how it works or how black hair works, PPs clearly said black women can't have straight, long, or blonde hair and white women can because it's more believeable. White women tan, get face lifts while keeping saggy necks, and get unbelievable boob jobs all the time and they are not questioned nearly as much as black women and their hair. I say this as a white woman.

[Anonymous]

*shouldn't wear weaves

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

I'm still curious what's the deal with the burning desire to become informed ... again, why do you care?

How is it "playing the race card" when someone else brings up race first? I thought that was called ... responding.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to look white and complain about being oppressed, embrace your ethnic background and try not to emulate hollywood stereotypes of beauty. If you don't you have yourself to blame.

See ...shit like this is what makes threads like these trash.

I removed that post almost immediately. Apparently, I wasn't fast enough to beat you and the other poster. But, posts like that wouldn't make threads like this trash if you would either ignore them or report them. If you want to debate the racists, I'll leave all the racist posts and you reply all you want. But then please don't complain about the racist posts. However, if you don't want that type of post to make threads trash, you need to cooperate a bit.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

The OP played the race card. The race card is in the subject line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

The subject itself isn't touchy, but it's important to avoid assumptions and not use value-loaded language when discussing anyone's body parts and cultural practices.

Natural hair care and styling is something that I actually enjoy discussing. Depending on my mood, I may even allow a curiously stranger or acquaintance to touch my hair if they ask nicely.

[Anonymous]

Who cares.
If you ain't dating a black woman why does it matter and if you are ask her.
Otherwise mind you business and do like you do when you see white women walking around looking all crazy - look away.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to look white and complain about being oppressed, embrace your ethnic background and try not to emulate hollywood stereotypes of beauty. If you don't you have yourself to blame.

See ...shit like this is what makes threads like these trash.

I removed that post almost immediately. Apparently, I wasn't fast enough to beat you and the other poster. But, posts like that wouldn't make threads like this trash if you would either ignore them or report them. If you want to debate the racists, I'll leave all the racist posts and you reply all you want. But then please don't complain about the racist posts. However, if you don't want that type of post to make threads trash, you need to cooperate a bit.

You're right. My response opener was knee-jerk vulgar. Passionate ... but still swear-y. Besides that, I was rolling with the whole "I'd like to help inform other readers." The Hollywood standard of beauty is a real issue and although I didn't like the way PP brought it up, I wanted to sincerely address its influence and the consequent repercussions within the AA community—not to debate but to lend an insider's explanation.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trying to look white and complain about being oppressed, embrace your ethnic background and try not to emulate hollywood stereotypes of beauty. If you don't you have yourself to blame.

See ...shit like this is what makes threads like these trash.

I removed that post almost immediately. Apparently, I wasn't fast enough to beat you and the other poster. But, posts like that wouldn't make threads like this trash if you would either ignore them or report them. If you want to debate the racists, I'll leave all the racist posts and you reply all you want. But then please don't complain about the racist posts. However, if you don't want that type of post to make threads trash, you need to cooperate a bit.

You're right. My response opener was knee-jerk vulgar. Passionate ... but still swear-y. Besides that, I was rolling with the whole "I'd like to help inform other readers." The Hollywood standard of beauty is a real issue and although I didn't like the way PP brought it up, I wanted to sincerely address its influence and the consequent repercussions within the AA community—not to debate but to lend an insider's explanation.

Understood and appreciated.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
One of the main reasons that this topic on the issues with black hair care never moves forward is because this is such a touchy subject with black women.

Consequently, people who might have the opportunity to become informed don't. It's too bad. If there was less knee-jerk defensiveness and sensitivity on the topic of weaves and wigs, then maybe more people could understand. Plus, it is not fair to play the race card every time this sensitive subject comes up.

The OP played the race card. The race card is in the subject line.

Jeff if you agree that even the subject line is provoking and subsequently inviting offensive posters, can't you see that the entire thread is going nowhere? Please lock this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares.
If you ain't dating a black woman why does it matter and if you are ask her.
Otherwise mind you business and do like you do when you see white women walking around looking all crazy - look away.

I find that most white men who are dating/married to black or biracial women make an effort to educate themselves about caring for AA hair. Whatever his other faults, my ex-husband genuinely made an effort to learn and not be offensive. And he had to do it before Google.