Facebook Post from Sheryl Sandberg on Dealing with Grief

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Anonymous wrote:She just doesn't inspire any feeling in me. Everything that comes out of her seems assembled by a team of experts and vetted by her publicist for maximum effect on the masses. The post is at once too personal and too canned.


I feel the same way.
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Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

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Anonymous wrote:Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

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Please, step away from the soapbox. This isn't even vaguely related to the rest of the thread.
Anonymous
Am I the only person who thought was weird that she took the time to p,ugh her stupid book in a memorial letter about her husband? Shouldn't it have been more about him and his experiences and less about hers??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think it's weird that she's posting to the general public on Facebook about this. Your friends and family? OK. But I read her post after it was shared by a bazillion people on Facebook and it just struck me as odd. Good for her if it lets her work through her grief, though.


Yes I thought that was very weird too.
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Anonymous wrote:Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

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Please, step away from the soapbox. This isn't even vaguely related to the rest of the thread.


Of course it is. It is directly related. People are assuming she has regrets about not spending enough time with her family, think she's a calculating opportunist, etc. Why?
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Anonymous wrote:I think it's weird that she's posting to the general public on Facebook about this. Your friends and family? OK. But I read her post after it was shared by a bazillion people on Facebook and it just struck me as odd. Good for her if it lets her work through her grief, though.


Yes I thought that was very weird too.

She's got a serious superiority complex. Parenting isn't an effective platform for that, but she needs focus on her children now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Am I the only person who thought was weird that she took the time to p,ugh her stupid book in a memorial letter about her husband? Shouldn't it have been more about him and his experiences and less about hers??


I read that as defensive. I think she's probably getting a bunch of mean trolls sending her nasty messages along the lines of "You regret Leaning In now? Huh? Huh????" (but the less polite version).
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Anonymous wrote:Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

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Please, step away from the soapbox. This isn't even vaguely related to the rest of the thread.


Of course it is. It is directly related. People are assuming she has regrets about not spending enough time with her family, think she's a calculating opportunist, etc. Why?


You clearly identify with her style; others don't. That's generally how the world works. Just because she is female, doesn't mean all women are going to respond the same way to her publications. You can feel the way you do without others who feel differently being "wrong" or needing to be admonished by you.
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Anonymous wrote:Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

[/quote

Please, step away from the soapbox. This isn't even vaguely related to the rest of the thread.


Of course it is. It is directly related. People are assuming she has regrets about not spending enough time with her family, think she's a calculating opportunist, etc. Why?


You clearly identify with her style; others don't. That's generally how the world works. Just because she is female, doesn't mean all women are going to respond the same way to her publications. You can feel the way you do without others who feel differently being "wrong" or needing to be admonished by you.


I disagree. Most people on this board are not arguing that they don't like her philosophy and proposing alternatives. They're arguing that they don't like her. Personally, I've not made the same choices as she has. But that doesn't make her self-serving. It doesn't make her choices wrong. But people are ripping her apart. My point is that women should stop doing this to each other.
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Anonymous wrote:Women don't need systemic bias to hold them back in the workplace-- it seems like we're perfectly capable of tearing each other down. Just because Sheryl Sandberg is massively successful and rich with money she made herself does not mean that she's a cold and calculating opportunist. Just because she has a big slice of the pie doesn't mean you've lost yours. There's a lot of pie to go around.

We should be congratulating women who have been so successful in their careers and see it as a victory for us all, without rushing to assume she must have accomplished it by selling out her marriage and kids. If anyone's actually read Lean In, you'd see that she is committed to her family.

You'd also read about the study that was done showing that people perceive successful men to be more likeable but successful women with the exact same credentials to be less likable. Imagine that.

As for Lean In, kuddos to her for putting her ideas out there. You don't like them? Write your own book.

[/quote

Please, step away from the soapbox. This isn't even vaguely related to the rest of the thread.


Of course it is. It is directly related. People are assuming she has regrets about not spending enough time with her family, think she's a calculating opportunist, etc. Why?


You clearly identify with her style; others don't. That's generally how the world works. Just because she is female, doesn't mean all women are going to respond the same way to her publications. You can feel the way you do without others who feel differently being "wrong" or needing to be admonished by you.


I disagree. Most people on this board are not arguing that they don't like her philosophy and proposing alternatives. They're arguing that they don't like her. Personally, I've not made the same choices as she has. But that doesn't make her self-serving. It doesn't make her choices wrong. But people are ripping her apart. My point is that women should stop doing this to each other.


This is a thread about how people feel about a specific post she made. People either like it or don't and have indicated why they feel the way they do. Not sure why you are personalizing this so much. Not everyone sees the world or Sheryl the same way you do.
Anonymous
She suffered a huge, life-altering tragedy. If this helps her heal, then I'm all for it.
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Anonymous wrote:Have your credit cards ready. Her book about how to grieve in an overachieving way comes out next spring!


Quickly followed by "how to lean in as a single parent".


This. The post was lovely, and had a lot of truth, but she want the first to speak that truth and she can still shove her leaning in where the sun doesn't shine. You know what would be amazing? Her saying maybe I should have spent so,e extra time with the man I loved and leaned a little less hard. Now THAT would be some honest talk.


Maybe that would be your honest talk, but it clearly wasn't for her. Why shove your perspective onto her? Don't want to read Lean In? Don't. Don't want to actually "lean in?" Don't. But for crying out loud don't also tell the woman what's honest for her.


+1. Honestly the insecurity and nastiness of some of the women on this board is remarkable.


Agreed. Some women are always threatened by another womans success or happiness etc. And now they even judge her for not grieving the right way. DC really is full of some shitty women. A cross between highly educated and highly educated but insecure stay at home moms.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have your credit cards ready. Her book about how to grieve in an overachieving way comes out next spring!


Quickly followed by "how to lean in as a single parent".


This. The post was lovely, and had a lot of truth, but she want the first to speak that truth and she can still shove her leaning in where the sun doesn't shine. You know what would be amazing? Her saying maybe I should have spent so,e extra time with the man I loved and leaned a little less hard. Now THAT would be some honest talk.


Maybe that would be your honest talk, but it clearly wasn't for her. Why shove your perspective onto her? Don't want to read Lean In? Don't. Don't want to actually "lean in?" Don't. But for crying out loud don't also tell the woman what's honest for her.


+1. Honestly the insecurity and nastiness of some of the women on this board is remarkable.


Agreed. Some women are always threatened by another womans success or happiness etc. And now they even judge her for not grieving the right way. DC really is full of some shitty women. A cross between highly educated and highly educated but insecure stay at home moms.


+1 Really trashy behavior.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have your credit cards ready. Her book about how to grieve in an overachieving way comes out next spring!


Quickly followed by "how to lean in as a single parent".


This. The post was lovely, and had a lot of truth, but she want the first to speak that truth and she can still shove her leaning in where the sun doesn't shine. You know what would be amazing? Her saying maybe I should have spent so,e extra time with the man I loved and leaned a little less hard. Now THAT would be some honest talk.


Maybe that would be your honest talk, but it clearly wasn't for her. Why shove your perspective onto her? Don't want to read Lean In? Don't. Don't want to actually "lean in?" Don't. But for crying out loud don't also tell the woman what's honest for her.


+1. Honestly the insecurity and nastiness of some of the women on this board is remarkable.


Agreed. Some women are always threatened by another womans success or happiness etc. And now they even judge her for not grieving the right way. DC really is full of some shitty women. A cross between highly educated and highly educated but insecure stay at home moms.


+1 Really trashy behavior.


Yes, so classy to trash people who don't agree with your opinion. If only we could be like you.
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