Two shot dead after they open fire at Mohammed cartoon event in Texas

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that the extreme Muslims need to chill. Look at the satire made of Jesus or the pope. If the Islamists have a problem with free speech and the first amendment, then there are plenty of hellhole countries where they might be happier, where "blasphemy" is punished as a crime.

Exactly! People come to this county for opportunities and freedom. Then they turn around and attack/murder people just because they are offended by what is being said. If you don't like what this country was founded on, move to a county that is more inline with your beliefs. It's really that simple.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

You guys are so wrapped up in your rhetoric, that you are toally missing the point. If violence happened in other Western countries becuase of stuff like this, why would you expect America to be immune to it? THAT is my point.

You seem comfortable with people bowing to terror by one religious group. Perhaps we should bow to terror by any group that feels offense.

Np here. Well, I am not comfortable with an anti-Islam organization intentionally having a contest that they know will be offensive and will provoke a reaction. Because I know that most Muslims are peaceful and it seems un-American to insult them. Sure, it is your right or the organization's right to have such an event. But if you have an event designed to provoke a reaction and an extreme variant of that reaction is what you get, you have not bowed to terror but you have helped create it by inflaming tensions on a whim. There is a reason this event was held in THAT neighborhood. Would you want an event like this at the school your kids attend? How about the neighborhood rec center?

Is it unamerican to insult Jews and Christians? No.It happens every day snd with increasing frequency. Islam is not s protected class just because it has radicals who chose to kill and terrorize.

PP here. I agree that they are not a "protected class" (although you are mis-using that word). But if you have event that is designed to provoke Muslims and to enflame tension with Muslims and certain radical Muslims ARE provoked, then I guess you have met your objective - even if that objective was not noble and arguably immoral.

. Who are you talking to? I inversely doubt anyone on this board had anything to do with this event. So to say "you" or "your intent" is off the mark.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

+1000 Love it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who is coddling? Aren't the suspects dead? Or going to jail?

If someone takes offense at satire, they are allowed to take offense. What they are NOT allowed to do is shoot people. Muslim, Christian, or other.

You are. Your anger is misplaced on the event organizers, not those who thought it permissible to kill because you were offended. No other group in America would get such a pass.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

You guys are so wrapped up in your rhetoric, that you are toally missing the point. If violence happened in other Western countries becuase of stuff like this, why would you expect America to be immune to it? THAT is my point.

You seem comfortable with people bowing to terror by one religious group. Perhaps we should bow to terror by any group that feels offense.

Np here. Well, I am not comfortable with an anti-Islam organization intentionally having a contest that they know will be offensive and will provoke a reaction. Because I know that most Muslims are peaceful and it seems un-American to insult them. Sure, it is your right or the organization's right to have such an event. But if you have an event designed to provoke a reaction and an extreme variant of that reaction is what you get, you have not bowed to terror but you have helped create it by inflaming tensions on a whim. There is a reason this event was held in THAT neighborhood. Would you want an event like this at the school your kids attend? How about the neighborhood rec center?

When some hippie goes out a burns an American flag he "knows it will be offensive and provoke a reaction." Yet we consider it constitutionally protected speech. Why should be society then coddle Islamic reactionaries who probably hate our precious freedoms just because they take offense at something satirical?

Sorry - I did not realize that refraining fromintentionally insulting another religion to provoke a negative reaction = coddling. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.



My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day


We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.



NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

+1000 Love it!

Yes, yes, yes!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

You guys are so wrapped up in your rhetoric, that you are toally missing the point. If violence happened in other Western countries becuase of stuff like this, why would you expect America to be immune to it? THAT is my point.

You seem comfortable with people bowing to terror by one religious group. Perhaps we should bow to terror by any group that feels offense.

Np here. Well, I am not comfortable with an anti-Islam organization intentionally having a contest that they know will be offensive and will provoke a reaction. Because I know that most Muslims are peaceful and it seems un-American to insult them. Sure, it is your right or the organization's right to have such an event. But if you have an event designed to provoke a reaction and an extreme variant of that reaction is what you get, you have not bowed to terror but you have helped create it by inflaming tensions on a whim. There is a reason this event was held in THAT neighborhood. Would you want an event like this at the school your kids attend? How about the neighborhood rec center?

Is it unamerican to insult Jews and Christians? No.It happens every day snd with increasing frequency. Islam is not s protected class just because it has radicals who chose to kill and terrorize.

PP here. I agree that they are not a "protected class" (although you are mis-using that word). But if you have event that is designed to provoke Muslims and to enflame tension with Muslims and certain radical Muslims ARE provoked, then I guess you have met your objective - even if that objective was not noble and arguably immoral.

. Who are you talking to? I inversely doubt anyone on this board had anything to do with this event. So to say "you" or "your intent" is off the mark.

Sorry for not clarifying that I was bieng figurative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that the extreme Muslims need to chill. Look at the satire made of Jesus or the pope. If the Islamists have a problem with free speech and the first amendment, then there are plenty of hellhole countries where they might be happier, where "blasphemy" is punished as a crime.

But, going there would defeat their purpose. The goal of the radical Islamists is to make the WORLD one big religion - and it’s not Christianity.
Anyone not believing what they believe are infidels and need to be done away with.
So, they are determined to go to all nations in the World to “convert.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who is coddling? Aren't the suspects dead? Or going to jail?

If someone takes offense at satire, they are allowed to take offense. What they are NOT allowed to do is shoot people. Muslim, Christian, or other.

You are. Your anger is misplaced on the event organizers, not those who thought it permissible to kill because you were offended. No other group in America would get such a pass.

Another PP here. I think there is enough anger to go around. Given what happened in France and other places, I would be livid if such and event were to happen in my neighborhood. Not because I am against a person exercising free speech or because I want to coddel Muslims, but because the organizer's intent was to provoke Muslims and thereby create a potentially dangerous situation. That a more dangerous situation was avoided in Texas was pure luck. Holding this event in an area with a lot of Muslims is like the Klan deciding that they want to have a rally in Baltimore - only bad things can result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dumbasses bait other dumbasses.

THIS! Of course it was wrong for the gunmen to show up and start shooting. Nobody is denying that.

But if I (as a white person) stepped into a bar where a lot of gun-toting AAs hung out and I went off on a racist rant, I would probably get hurt or killed. It would still be assault/murder on their part, but it also would have been incredibly stupid on my part. Same thing would happen to an AA in a redneck bar in the south. At some point, we have to stop thinking that Freedom of Speech allows us to be violence-inciting idiots and we need to take personal responsibility for our actions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that the extreme Muslims need to chill. Look at the satire made of Jesus or the pope. If the Islamists have a problem with free speech and the first amendment, then there are plenty of hellhole countries where they might be happier, where "blasphemy" is punished as a crime.

But, going there would defeat their purpose. The goal of the radical Islamists is to make the WORLD one big religion - and it’s not Christianity.
Anyone not believing what they believe are infidels and need to be done away with.
So, they are determined to go to all nations in the World to “convert.”

Totally agree with this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dumbasses bait other dumbasses.

THIS! Of course it was wrong for the gunmen to show up and start shooting. Nobody is denying that.

But if I (as a white person) stepped into a bar where a lot of gun-toting AAs hung out and I went off on a racist rant, I would probably get hurt or killed. It would still be assault/murder on their part, but it also would have been incredibly stupid on my part. Same thing would happen to an AA in a redneck bar in the south. At some point, we have to stop thinking that Freedom of Speech allows us to be violence-inciting idiots and we need to take personal responsibility for our actions.

I disagree. Freedom of speech should allow us to say dumb accidentally or purposefully offensive things. That's what it's for.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

You guys are so wrapped up in your rhetoric, that you are toally missing the point. If violence happened in other Western countries becuase of stuff like this, why would you expect America to be immune to it? THAT is my point.

You seem comfortable with people bowing to terror by one religious group. Perhaps we should bow to terror by any group that feels offense.

Np here. Well, I am not comfortable with an anti-Islam organization intentionally having a contest that they know will be offensive and will provoke a reaction. Because I know that most Muslims are peaceful and it seems un-American to insult them. Sure, it is your right or the organization's right to have such an event. But if you have an event designed to provoke a reaction and an extreme variant of that reaction is what you get, you have not bowed to terror but you have helped create it by inflaming tensions on a whim. There is a reason this event was held in THAT neighborhood. Would you want an event like this at the school your kids attend? How about the neighborhood rec center?

When some hippie goes out a burns an American flag he "knows it will be offensive and provoke a reaction." Yet we consider it constitutionally protected speech. Why should be society then coddle Islamic reactionaries who probably hate our precious freedoms just because they take offense at something satirical?

Sorry - I did not realize that refraining fromintentionally insulting another religion to provoke a negative reaction = coddling. Thanks for clearing that up.

The issue is that only one religion is at play because their extremists kill people for slights. Other religions for not get a pass and are open to public scorn. See the difference. That is coddling.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not condoning the gunmen showing up to shoot up the place, but this is the height of cultural and religous insenstivity.

Not only is there a "contest" to draw the prophet with everyone knowing full well the angst it causes among Muslims, but you have this "event" in a part of Texas that has substantial population of Somali Muslims. What did people expect to happen?

Yes, it is very insensitive to organize such an event.

But guess what? That still doesn't make it okay to try to kill the people who do that.

Didn't say it was "ok" did I? In fact I said that I am not condoning it - said that right there in the first line.

My point was given what has happened in other places in the wake of these types of cartoons, what did people expect to happen?

"What did people expect?" Seriously?

I'll tell you what America expects:

We expect that we can publish a crass, tasteless cartoon like Cahlie Hebdo without the editorial staff being murdered in cold blood.

We expect that a woman on FaceBook can propose "Everybody Draw Mohamed Day" without being forced into hiding for over 4 years by constant death threats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

We expect that idiot neo nazis can lawfully apply to march through a predominantly Jewish neighborhood and they won't be denied their right to free speach, but only because an ACLU lawyer, a Jewish one at that, defends their rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

We expect that Westboro Baptist crazies will show up in an "insensitive" fashion, and we expect counter-demonstrations (I would hope so anyway).

THAT is what we expect, PP. Nothing less.

America is a diverse place. If you come to America, we demand you peacefully tolerate that diversity. If you don't like other people's views, then speak up. Get a permit and hold a peaceful demonstration. Write a letter to the editor. Start a blog.

But if your response to other people's viewpoint is to drive their with AK-47s, then I hope they shoot you dead before you hurt anybody.

NOW you KNOW what we expect, you intolerant, narrow-minded prick!

You guys are so wrapped up in your rhetoric, that you are toally missing the point. If violence happened in other Western countries becuase of stuff like this, why would you expect America to be immune to it? THAT is my point.

You seem comfortable with people bowing to terror by one religious group. Perhaps we should bow to terror by any group that feels offense.

Np here. Well, I am not comfortable with an anti-Islam organization intentionally having a contest that they know will be offensive and will provoke a reaction. Because I know that most Muslims are peaceful and it seems un-American to insult them. Sure, it is your right or the organization's right to have such an event. But if you have an event designed to provoke a reaction and an extreme variant of that reaction is what you get, you have not bowed to terror but you have helped create it by inflaming tensions on a whim. There is a reason this event was held in THAT neighborhood. Would you want an event like this at the school your kids attend? How about the neighborhood rec center?

When some hippie goes out a burns an American flag he "knows it will be offensive and provoke a reaction." Yet we consider it constitutionally protected speech. Why should be society then coddle Islamic reactionaries who probably hate our precious freedoms just because they take offense at something satirical?

Sorry - I did not realize that refraining fromintentionally insulting another religion to provoke a negative reaction = coddling. Thanks for clearing that up.

The issue is that only one religion is at play because their extremists kill people for slights. Other religions for not get a pass and are open to public scorn. See the difference. That is coddling.

Sorry but it's one thing to protect speech. It's another thing to pick a fight. I doubt the individuals involved in this "Draw Muhammad" event had any reason for participating other than to pick one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Dumbasses bait other dumbasses.

THIS! Of course it was wrong for the gunmen to show up and start shooting. Nobody is denying that.

But if I (as a white person) stepped into a bar where a lot of gun-toting AAs hung out and I went off on a racist rant, I would probably get hurt or killed. It would still be assault/murder on their part, but it also would have been incredibly stupid on my part. Same thing would happen to an AA in a redneck bar in the south. At some point, we have to stop thinking that Freedom of Speech allows us to be violence-inciting idiots and we need to take personal responsibility for our actions.

I disagree. Freedom of speech should allow us to say dumb accidentally or purposefully offensive things. That's what it's for.

NO. IT'S. NOT.