Two shot dead after they open fire at Mohammed cartoon event in Texas

[Anonymous]

It appears someone got caught in a deceitful web of lies while trying to change the subject from the M contest to the mosque issue in NY.

[Anonymous]

When did the issue of free speech become a republican vs democrat issue as opposed to an American issue. Some people will try to politicize everything. Pitiful.

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Anonymous wrote:^^not looking for -- Your original statement was a blanket conservatives are opposed to, yet you ignored the democrats in opposition and the conservatives who were not opposed. Funny how you tried to skew the facts by making a blanket statement.

I am not skewing the fact of conservative hypocrisy. That exists on its own. My blanket statement holds because Republican opponents to the mosque outnumber republican proponents by over 7:1 In case math isn't you thing, that's 88%/12%

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Anonymous wrote:^^not looking for -- Your original statement was a blanket conservatives are opposed to, yet you ignored the democrats in opposition and the conservatives who were not opposed. Funny how you tried to skew the facts by making a blanket statement.

I am not skewing the fact of conservative hypocrisy. That exists on its own. My blanket statement holds because Republican opponents to the mosque outnumber republican proponents by over 7:1 In case math isn't you thing, that's 88%/12%

It is you who made the blanket statement that this was a conservative issue which is blatantly false as it crossed both parties. You are the one who skewed the facts by trying to paint it as a one party issue. That is the problem inherent in bias--ignoring your own by focusing solely on others.

[Anonymous]

I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I shudder to think how stupid, uneducated and bigoted the organizers were. How brainless do you have to be?

I am all for freedom of speech but I also wonder how dumb were the organizers? I also do not appreciate that law enforcement officers and general public were put in the way of harm because of these morons (the organizers and the shooters).

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Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I think it was a wonderful idea -- an celebration of freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful about it. Do you think a cartoon showing Muhammed crying because some people are committing violence in his name, is hateful? I think it is a poignant commentary on contemporary issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I think it was a wonderful idea -- an celebration of freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful about it. Do you think a cartoon showing Muhammed crying because some people are committing violence in his name, is hateful? I think it is a poignant commentary on contemporary issues.

Golly, is Piss Christ a wonderful idea, a celebration of freedom of speech? Is that poignant commentary, too?

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Anonymous wrote:^^not looking for -- Your original statement was a blanket conservatives are opposed to, yet you ignored the democrats in opposition and the conservatives who were not opposed. Funny how you tried to skew the facts by making a blanket statement.

I am not skewing the fact of conservative hypocrisy. That exists on its own. My blanket statement holds because Republican opponents to the mosque outnumber republican proponents by over 7:1 In case math isn't you thing, that's 88%/12%

It is you who made the blanket statement that this was a conservative issue which is blatantly false as it crossed both parties. You are the one who skewed the facts by trying to paint it as a one party issue. That is the problem inherent in bias--ignoring your own by focusing solely on others.

I did no such thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I shudder to think how stupid, uneducated and bigoted the organizers were. How brainless do you have to be?

I am all for freedom of speech but I also wonder how dumb were the organizers? I also do not appreciate that law enforcement officers and general public were put in the way of harm because of these morons (the organizers and the shooters).

You are all for freedom of speech? Really?

You seem awefully focused on the content of the speech, rather than that pesky "freedom" part.

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I think we all know that what they did is protected by law. That doesn't make it admirable, or even advisable.

I think it would be blasphemous to *not* draw the cartoons. As Americans we are taught not to bow down to kings, or to warrior dudes that lived 1400 years ago.

There is nothing hateful or racist about the cartoons. Consider the winning entry with a picture of Muhammed saying "You can't draw me" with the caption "That is why I draw you." Except for the name of the person, this is the sort of mild satire that one finds daily in political cartoons in newspapers across America. I hope we will be able to see the full collection of entries.

So yes I do think what the cartoonists did in Texas was very admirable.

Yet there are a billion peaceful muslims whose religious beliefs you are offending. They aren't asking you to "bow down". In fact, quite the opposite, they oppose "graven images". It is a biblical command against idolatry.

If they don't condone idolatry, they don't have to look. They don't have to own any. They don't have to finance any. What they cannot, and we cannot allow, is to prohibit anyone else from looking, owning or financing.

You mean like building a Mosque in Lower Manhattan? Then why were conservatives fighting it?

. You only mentioned conservatives. You didn't question why democrats (or even independents) were fighting it. You chose one group with whom you disagree and framed your comment on that group only. Give it a rest. There is no denying what you wrote. Talk about hypocracy...

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Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I think it was a wonderful idea -- an celebration of freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful about it. Do you think a cartoon showing Muhammed crying because some people are committing violence in his name, is hateful? I think it is a poignant commentary on contemporary issues.

Golly, is Piss Christ a wonderful idea, a celebration of freedom of speech? Is that poignant commentary, too?

You really don't understand the difference between drawing a picture of a religious leader, and putting a statue of him in urine? The former is not all insulting.

But, yes, if people were being murdered for displayed a statue of Christ in urine, then I think we should have events demonstrating solidarity.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I think it was a wonderful idea -- an celebration of freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful about it. Do you think a cartoon showing Muhammed crying because some people are committing violence in his name, is hateful? I think it is a poignant commentary on contemporary issues.

Golly, is Piss Christ a wonderful idea, a celebration of freedom of speech? Is that poignant commentary, too?

You really don't understand the difference between drawing a picture of a religious leader, and putting a statue of him in urine? The former is not all insulting.

But, yes, if people were being murdered for displayed a statue of Christ in urine, then I think we should have events demonstrating solidarity.

gee only one of those is a violation of a holy book. And the issue above to which I responded is not whether the attack was wrong, but whether the event was offensive.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the decision to have a Mohd cartoon event was such a hateful and vile idea.

I think it was a wonderful idea -- an celebration of freedom of speech. There was nothing hateful about it. Do you think a cartoon showing Muhammed crying because some people are committing violence in his name, is hateful? I think it is a poignant commentary on contemporary issues.

Golly, is Piss Christ a wonderful idea, a celebration of freedom of speech? Is that poignant commentary, too?

You really don't understand the difference between drawing a picture of a religious leader, and putting a statue of him in urine? The former is not all insulting.

But, yes, if people were being murdered for displayed a statue of Christ in urine, then I think we should have events demonstrating solidarity.

gee only one of those is a violation of a holy book. And the issue above to which I responded is not whether the attack was wrong, but whether the event was offensive.

Which one?

Well, yes, both are offensive. Exactly. Not inciting, just offensive.

[Anonymous]

It is easy to be a proponent of “nice” speech.

It is when speech can be considered “offensive” that it is critical to defend the right to speak freely.

We give up that right, we have lost a good deal of freedom.

I absolutely abhor the burning or trampling of the American flag. But, it is a right which my son, among others, fights to defend.

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Anonymous wrote:It is easy to be a proponent of “nice” speech.

It is when speech can be considered “offensive” that it is critical to defend the right to speak freely.

We give up that right, we have lost a good deal of freedom.

I absolutely abhor the burning or trampling of the American flag. But, it is a right which my son, among others, fights to defend.

Blah blah blah. I have been a member of the ACLU since you were in diapers, so can the lecture.

I'm not questioning whether it's legal or whether they should be entitled to protection under the law.

I am questioning whether this speech is anything other than a deliberate provocation of Muslims. I mean seriously, how many people just feel like drawing Mohammed? Like oh, great, it's really important to me as an artist to depict Mohammed, so I am going to enter this contest. In what way is it important to them OTHER than to piss off Muslims?

At least the Klan has a purpose for what they say, even though I detest it. At least that "God Hates Fags" guy is doing something because he really does believe that God hates homosexuals. The people at this event undertook this speech solely to offend. There is no other purpose.

I have zero respect for that.