Cogat score - no letter for pool?

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Anonymous wrote:Coates ES: My daughter got her 2nd Grade COGAT scores. Composite: 129. 3 pts less than the COGAT benchmark.

She has 140 from her 1st Grade NNAT.

No pool letter included.

Any suggestions on how to get pool ltr from the school?

It'll come. Sit tight.

Coates ES: Got the pool letter albeit couple of days later "in snail mail" !

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If the scored came alone, should we assume ds is not at the benchmark? He has verbal of 134. Any word on benchmarks for this year?

What was the composite? That is the number in bold that determines who is pool eligible. 132 or higher gets in pool.

Composite was low- a shock. We didn't prep and ds was pulled out for a reading groups during the practice test for the last 2 sections. In past years sometimes they've used one of the three so I was hopeful. Nnat was 97 %. This kid hasn't had anything lower than a 4 in any subject his primary teacher teaches and is in reading and math pullouts.

don't sweat it. you can always parent refer

Why would they do this? Clearly the kid's on the bubble anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The moms at the bus stop keep talking this, and ask me what is my son's score of nnat2, because I still have not gotten my cogat. I didn't think of AAP......but now I feel stressful because all moms care that so much......even one told me that her son will go to aap level long before the cogat test....

There's always one.

[Anonymous]

I have so many things I wonder but am afraid to ask people I know IRL. Like is it really some horrible stain NOT to be in the AAP. I just kind of don't get how it's not truly a gifted program and they let so many in, and yet, there are still kids NOT in who are "really bright"...I mean, what is it, really? Is it a big setback for a child NOT to be in it? How hard should someone lobby? And what kind of work samples do they like? It all just seems so subjective other than the test score. I almost wished it was either you make it or you don't with the test scores, but our AART said at the presentation that even if you make the pool you might not get in.

[Anonymous]

We got a CogAt test result in our son's backpack today along with the letter stating that he is in the pool and also the letter from fcps explaining about the CogAt test. Three papers were stapled together.

Our son got:

Verbal 111
Quantitative 124
Nonverbal 123
Composite (VQN) 122 (92 age percentile, 77 local percentile)

I know his score is below 132 composite requirement for AAP pool. But, he got 135 on NNAT test last year. So, we believe he made it to the pool because of NNAT result. Chances for my son to get into AAP might be very slim, but when I heard about GBRS (gifted behaviors rating scale) will be included for a screening file, we started to wonder how much difference it could possibly make.

Either way, we are very happy that he even made it into the pool. We wouldn't be disappointed even if he couldn't go to class IV AAP. We at least know that he will be fine in his current school. GL everyone!

[Anonymous]

Mcnair elementary school. Got DS score and in pool letter together by mail yesterday.
Composite: 136.

He is new to fairfax county, so he don't have a NNAT score.

In his report card, he got 4s in math, history and science and 3s in everything else.

Not sure whether he can make it to AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mcnair elementary school. Got DS score and in pool letter together by mail yesterday.
Composite: 136.

He is new to fairfax county, so he don't have a NNAT score.

In his report card, he got 4s in math, history and science and 3s in everything else.

Not sure whether he can make it to AAP.

Don't sweat his grades. My kid was getting 2s in some subjects. High test scores on NNAT and CogAT, average GBRS.... got in and is doing quite well. A composite CogAT of 136 is good and I would bet is an admit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have so many things I wonder but am afraid to ask people I know IRL. Like is it really some horrible stain NOT to be in the AAP. I just kind of don't get how it's not truly a gifted program and they let so many in, and yet, there are still kids NOT in who are "really bright"...I mean, what is it, really? Is it a big setback for a child NOT to be in it? How hard should someone lobby? And what kind of work samples do they like? It all just seems so subjective other than the test score. I almost wished it was either you make it or you don't with the test scores, but our AART said at the presentation that even if you make the pool you might not get in.

There's a difference between the potentially gifted child and the "has good grades" child. What the screening process is trying to find is the potentially gifted child.

There was an AAP conference back in 2013 where the conference materials are all posted on the FCPS website. The materials are here:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/parents/sessions.shtml

There is a roughly hour-long video of the AAP identification process at the link "Central Screening and Selection" which might be helpful for you to view -- here's a direct link to the video:

http://www.ebmcdn.net/fcps/fcps_video_viewer.php?viewnode=041a17f0d08ce