Cogat score - no letter for pool?

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Anonymous wrote:If the scored came alone, should we assume ds is not at the benchmark? He has verbal of 134. Any word on benchmarks for this year?


What was the composite? That is the number in bold that determines who is pool eligible. 132 or higher gets in pool.


Composite was low- a shock. We didn't prep and ds was pulled out for a reading groups during the practice test for the last 2 sections. In past years sometimes they've used one of the three so I was hopeful. Nnat was 97 %. This kid hasn't had anything lower than a 4 in any subject his primary teacher teaches and is in reading and math pullouts.


Sounds like a bright, but not gifted kid. He'll do find in regular classes and find plenty of kids just like him. Don't stress it.


Kind of rude, PP. Plus, you assume that all the kids in AAP are "gifted." They are not. There are those that opt out of the process (like us and several families we know), others who get prepped and private tested. The teachers at our Center School all say that it's not a true gifted program. So, chill with the labels.
Anonymous
Received COGAt score today in mail. Composite above 132 but no pool letter.
This is Chesterbrook ES.
Anonymous
Do scores and pool letter come in the same envelope?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the scored came alone, should we assume ds is not at the benchmark? He has verbal of 134. Any word on benchmarks for this year?


What was the composite? That is the number in bold that determines who is pool eligible. 132 or higher gets in pool.


Composite was low- a shock. We didn't prep and ds was pulled out for a reading groups during the practice test for the last 2 sections. In past years sometimes they've used one of the three so I was hopeful. Nnat was 97 %. This kid hasn't had anything lower than a 4 in any subject his primary teacher teaches and is in reading and math pullouts.


Sounds like a bright, but not gifted kid. He'll do find in regular classes and find plenty of kids just like him. Don't stress it.


Kind of rude, PP. Plus, you assume that all the kids in AAP are "gifted." They are not. There are those that opt out of the process (like us and several families we know), others who get prepped and private tested. The teachers at our Center School all say that it's not a true gifted program. So, chill with the labels.


So true, PP. AAP does not equal gifted, though many parents refuse to hear it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the scored came alone, should we assume ds is not at the benchmark? He has verbal of 134. Any word on benchmarks for this year?


What was the composite? That is the number in bold that determines who is pool eligible. 132 or higher gets in pool.


Composite was low- a shock. We didn't prep and ds was pulled out for a reading groups during the practice test for the last 2 sections. In past years sometimes they've used one of the three so I was hopeful. Nnat was 97 %. This kid hasn't had anything lower than a 4 in any subject his primary teacher teaches and is in reading and math pullouts.


Sounds like a bright, but not gifted kid. He'll do find in regular classes and find plenty of kids just like him. Don't stress it.


Kind of rude, PP. Plus, you assume that all the kids in AAP are "gifted." They are not. There are those that opt out of the process (like us and several families we know), others who get prepped and private tested. The teachers at our Center School all say that it's not a true gifted program. So, chill with the labels.


So true, PP. AAP does not equal gifted, though many parents refuse to hear it.


A "true gifted" program would include programs beyond academics (visual and performing arts, etc.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do scores and pool letter come in the same envelope?


Depends on the school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thanks...yeah, I have things ready to go and process seems simple...but not sure her being talented in the things she is talented in really constitutes being "gifted" in the way AAP is meant as... I just don't want her to be relegated to the dumps, either, because she's definitely bright. I already see the work they do in her class and it looks boring and beneath what she could do, to me... the things she makes on her own at home are way better. It's an odd place to be for me as a mom.


Gen Ed is not "the dumps," as you so eloquently put it. Plenty of very bright children there. And being talented in art doesn't necessarily mean a student is advanced academically also.
Anonymous
Op here. Thanks to the pp's who objected to bright, not gifted comment. It stung a little. DS is extremely bright - not Mensa but that's not AAP either, if we are being real.

It sucks that someone who needs acceleration either has to hope for aap or settle for a possible once a week pullout with the AART.
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Anonymous wrote:... And being talented in art doesn't necessarily mean a student is advanced academically also.


Yep...that why I said "not sure her being talented in the things she is talented in really constitutes being "gifted" in the way AAP is meant as"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks to the pp's who objected to bright, not gifted comment. It stung a little. DS is extremely bright - not Mensa but that's not AAP either, if we are being real.

It sucks that someone who needs acceleration either has to hope for aap or settle for a possible once a week pullout with the AART.


I think we're in the same boat. I'm not going to worry about it, though. I see the public school (from what I've witnessed) as slightly more than glorified high quality daycare anyway, where they get the basics and some socialization taken care of, and we do more interesting enrichment things on our own and will continue to.
Anonymous
You people are crazy. Do you consider yourself a failure as a parent if they are not AAP? Give your kids a break?????
Anonymous
Since you brought it up -

The MENSA membership is open to those with a 132+ composite on the CoGAT.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Since you brought it up -

The MENSA membership is open to those with a 132+ composite on the CoGAT.


Yep, or a 132+ on the NNAT.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thanks to the pp's who objected to bright, not gifted comment. It stung a little. DS is extremely bright - not Mensa but that's not AAP either, if we are being real.

It sucks that someone who needs acceleration either has to hope for aap or settle for a possible once a week pullout with the AART.


I think we're in the same boat. I'm not going to worry about it, though. I see the public school (from what I've witnessed) as slightly more than glorified high quality daycare anyway, where they get the basics and some socialization taken care of, and we do more interesting enrichment things on our own and will continue to.


Wow. Just wow.
Anonymous
The moms at the bus stop keep talking this, and ask me what is my son's score of nnat2, because I still have not gotten my cogat. I didn't think of AAP......but now I feel stressful because all moms care that so much......even one told me that her son will go to aap level long before the cogat test....
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