s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?

not in this country, as there are too many "cultures"

Africans who enter the US are anchored to a culture and will self-segregate.

Black (as in American black) is its own culture, I've been told. Blacks can use nigger amongst each other, as it's a term of endearment. Yes, you'll get blacks - older blacks who were instrumental in civil rights who abhor the term. But it's still acceptable. There's a culture of black poverty, which is where the whole "thug life" image comes into play. And you have the blacks who have "made it" who want nothing to do with the other group.

But this can be true of all races/cultures. Immigrants coming over, anchored to their cultures, will self-segregate, and rich and poor will rarely mingle.

But b/c black culture is suffering the effects of slavery - now institutionalized - this oppressive atmosphere is hard to shatter.

I read an article on Canadian blacks where blacks didn't associate with "black" - but they did identify with their culture. So they labeled themselves as French-Canadian, for example.

bottom line - This country is a fucking mess. And groups become monolithic when it benefits them.

But I wonder just how many people - educated and "enlightened" folks of all races - would be welcoming to Brown.

b/c it's not just about his death
It's about his support system that lead him to this tragic ending. But if you're surrounded by poverty and ignorance and attend low-performing schools with weak teachers, what chance do you have of moving forward in the right direction?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

If everyone stopped being racist what do you think would change about AA behavior?

Are you asking the millions of different, individual AA people what will change in their individual BEHAVIOUR??

yes.

[Anonymous]

Post 08/15/2014 21:33 Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?





Anonymous wrote:

NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.

Black people can't get ahead due to:

1. anger about racism
2. unwillingness to change to suit racists
3. a belief that people should treat all people with respect
4. pointing out racism

So all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires if only black people would learn to be happy about racism, accept being treated as lesser, and never, ever, ever pointing out racism? How about that.

Someblack people can't get ahead due to:

1) anger about racism
2) assuming that everything anyone does or says to them is based on race (white people aren't very nice to each other either. Have you noticed?)
3) a belief that respect is deserved, not earned
4) a lack of perspective/caring about the fact that other people also have challenges in their lives

No, not all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires. No one, no matter what color, gets a guarantee like this. Or haven't you noticed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

If everyone stopped being racist what do you think would change about AA behavior?

I don't understand. Please explain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?

not in this country, as there are too many "cultures"

Africans who enter the US are anchored to a culture and will self-segregate.

Black (as in American black) is its own culture, I've been told. Blacks can use nigger amongst each other, as it's a term of endearment. Yes, you'll get blacks - older blacks who were instrumental in civil rights who abhor the term. But it's still acceptable. There's a culture of black poverty, which is where the whole "thug life" image comes into play. And you have the blacks who have "made it" who want nothing to do with the other group.

But this can be true of all races/cultures. Immigrants coming over, anchored to their cultures, will self-segregate, and rich and poor will rarely mingle.

But b/c black culture is suffering the effects of slavery - now institutionalized - this oppressive atmosphere is hard to shatter.

I read an article on Canadian blacks where blacks didn't associate with "black" - but they did identify with their culture. So they labeled themselves as French-Canadian, for example.

bottom line - This country is a fucking mess. And groups become monolithic when it benefits them.

But I wonder just how many people - educated and "enlightened" folks of all races - would be welcoming to Brown.

b/c it's not just about his death
It's about his support system that lead him to this tragic ending. But if you're surrounded by poverty and ignorance and attend low-performing schools with weak teachers, what chance do you have of moving forward in the right direction?

You just took a little bit if this, a little bit of that, took it all out of context to come up with some half asked conclusion of nothing.
You could have just save your typing finger and just said 'too many fucked up different cultures/colors"
Just as dumb ass , but a shorter read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Post 08/15/2014 21:33 Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?





Anonymous wrote:

NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.

Black people can't get ahead due to:

1. anger about racism
2. unwillingness to change to suit racists
3. a belief that people should treat all people with respect
4. pointing out racism

So all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires if only black people would learn to be happy about racism, accept being treated as lesser, and never, ever, ever pointing out racism? How about that.

Someblack people can't get ahead due to:

1) anger about racism
2) assuming that everything anyone does or says to them is based on race (white people aren't very nice to each other either. Have you noticed?)
3) a belief that respect is deserved, not earned
4) a lack of perspective/caring about the fact that other people also have challenges in their lives

No, not all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires. No one, no matter what color, gets a guarantee like this. Or haven't you noticed?

And some white people can't get ahead because they're fools. But I don't see anybody making comments like, "This is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if Bill Gates is a billionaire) cannot get ahead. Too many fools."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok racism is pointed out over and over again. What is the solution to it? Is there one?

not in this country, as there are too many "cultures"

Africans who enter the US are anchored to a culture and will self-segregate.

Black (as in American black) is its own culture, I've been told. Blacks can use nigger amongst each other, as it's a term of endearment. Yes, you'll get blacks - older blacks who were instrumental in civil rights who abhor the term. But it's still acceptable. There's a culture of black poverty, which is where the whole "thug life" image comes into play. And you have the blacks who have "made it" who want nothing to do with the other group.

But this can be true of all races/cultures. Immigrants coming over, anchored to their cultures, will self-segregate, and rich and poor will rarely mingle.

But b/c black culture is suffering the effects of slavery - now institutionalized - this oppressive atmosphere is hard to shatter.

I read an article on Canadian blacks where blacks didn't associate with "black" - but they did identify with their culture. So they labeled themselves as French-Canadian, for example.

bottom line - This country is a fucking mess. And groups become monolithic when it benefits them.

But I wonder just how many people - educated and "enlightened" folks of all races - would be welcoming to Brown.

b/c it's not just about his death
It's about his support system that lead him to this tragic ending. But if you're surrounded by poverty and ignorance and attend low-performing schools with weak teachers, what chance do you have of moving forward in the right direction?

This saddens me. There is no hope for things to change? Many AA seem angry all of the time - with what you're saying this makes sense. I'd be pissed too. Although when you are trying and bump into the anger, it makes you get angry back and it snowballs. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Post 08/15/2014 21:33 Subject: s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?





Anonymous wrote:

NP here -- This sums up everything that I think of AAs -- this is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if this lady is a millionaire) cannot get ahead. Too much anger. Too much of -- I am who I am. Too much concern about respect. Too much crying about unfairness.

Black people can't get ahead due to:

1. anger about racism
2. unwillingness to change to suit racists
3. a belief that people should treat all people with respect
4. pointing out racism

So all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires if only black people would learn to be happy about racism, accept being treated as lesser, and never, ever, ever pointing out racism? How about that.

Someblack people can't get ahead due to:

1) anger about racism
2) assuming that everything anyone does or says to them is based on race (white people aren't very nice to each other either. Have you noticed?)
3) a belief that respect is deserved, not earned
4) a lack of perspective/caring about the fact that other people also have challenges in their lives

No, not all would be sunshine, roses, and millionaires. No one, no matter what color, gets a guarantee like this. Or haven't you noticed?

SOME white people don't get ahead because they are stupid, so what is your point?
What do either if those things have to do with racism??

[Anonymous]

And some white people can't get ahead because they're fools. But I don't see anybody making comments like, "This is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if Bill Gates is a billionaire) cannot get ahead. Too many fools."

They do have a name we call them white trash. I think poverty, attitude and education play a large roll in these things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And some white people can't get ahead because they're fools. But I don't see anybody making comments like, "This is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if Bill Gates is a billionaire) cannot get ahead. Too many fools."

They do have a name we call them white trash. I think poverty, attitude and education play a large roll in these things.

Pay attention, you are missing the point. She was saying that all white people are not lumped into the white trash group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


And some white people can't get ahead because they're fools. But I don't see anybody making comments like, "This is the sum total of why they as a race (doesn't matter if Bill Gates is a billionaire) cannot get ahead. Too many fools."


They do have a name we call them white trash. I think poverty, attitude and education play a large roll in these things.
Pay attention, you are missing the point. She was saying that all white people are not lumped into the white trash group.

Actually, I think YOU are the one missing the point.

[Anonymous]

No one lumps all black people together in one group. WTF??

[Anonymous]

There sure are a lot of people on this thread who are either not reading closely or could use a remedial reading class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one lumps all black people together in one group. WTF??

I hope you are a smartass and not delusional

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No one lumps all black people together in one group. WTF??
I hope you are a smartass and not delusional

How is that delusional? It's true of many white people in this country. Why can't you stop lumping US all together and assuming we are all racists?