measles- beware if you've been these places

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where on earth did this statistic come from?

I had measles as did everyone I knew when I was a child. There was no vaccine for measles, and it was not in any way a deadly disease. Everyone got it, and no one died.

There are lies, damned lies and statistics -- this is a case of statistics.

In a vaccinated population, very few healthy children will come down with measles. In developing countries, this statistic might be plausible, but that's because those "healthy" children suffer from malnutrition, parasites, poor hygiene, poor access to clean water, etc, all of which contribute to the death rate in these supposedly "healthy" children.

In America, well-nourished middle class children with no immune issues are not likely to die of measles ever.

In a vaccinated population, very few healthy children will come down with measles BECAUSE THEY ARE VACCINATED.

And maybe nobody you know died of measles. But the actual true fact is that children did die of measles.

Do you want numbers? 400-500 deaths per year in the US in the decade before vaccination; 48,000 hospitalizations per year; 1,000 cases of chronic disability per year because of measles encephalitis. http://www.cdc.gov/measles/vaccination.html

Do you want an example of a child who died of measles? Google Roald Dahl measles.

It's not a good idea to post statistics that are incorrect. You need to re-read the CDC website on measles.

Here is what the CDC website says:

In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3–4 million people in the United States were infected each year, of whom 400–500 died

That works out to 40-50 deaths PER YEAR from measles in the decade before vaccination began. So out of 3-4 million infections per year, only 40-50 died per year. That works out to 1 death in 60,000 cases or 1 death in 133,000 cases depending upon which numbers you use.

These are very loose statistics. It does not give the ages of the victims or their health status prior to acquiring measles.

The website does not say what year vaccination began.

It would be instructive to compare the numbers of people who died annually during corresponding years from the flu or even the common cold. If someone can find those data, please post them.

[Anonymous]

funny about vaccinations

When I had my first 10 years ago, they wouldn't release me b/c I was low on rubella antibodies. So I had a booster.

Sometimes you never know.

Anonymous wrote:If you're not immune to rubella (Measles) [have not been vaccinated or not been previously infected with it] and you come down with this illness during early pregnancy, it could be devastating for your baby. You could have a miscarriage or your baby could end up with multiple birth defects and developmental problems. Congenital rubella syndrome, or CRS, is the name given to the pattern of problems caused when a baby is born with the virus.

I hate that people refuse this vaccination! This disease used to be pratically erradicated in the US and now all these crunchy people have allowed it to pop in clusters all over the US. Dumb.dumb.dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's not a good idea to post statistics that are incorrect. You need to re-read the CDC website on measles.

Here is what the CDC website says:

In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3–4 million people in the United States were infected each year, of whom 400–500 died

That works out to 40-50 deaths PER YEAR from measles in the decade before vaccination began. So out of 3-4 million infections per year, only 40-50 died per year. That works out to 1 death in 60,000 cases or 1 death in 133,000 cases depending upon which numbers you use.

These are very loose statistics. It does not give the ages of the victims or their health status prior to acquiring measles.

The website does not say what year vaccination began.

It would be instructive to compare the numbers of people who died annually during corresponding years from the flu or even the common cold. If someone can find those data, please post them.

Here is what the CDC website says: In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3–4 million people in the United States were infected each year, of whom 400–500 died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and another 1,000 developed chronic disability from measles encephalitis.

This means that each year, an estimated 3-4 million people were infected, of whom 400-500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 developed chronic disability.

Please re-read before you tell other people to re-read.

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/vaccination.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
These are very loose statistics. It does not give the ages of the victims or their health status prior to acquiring measles.

The website does not say what year vaccination began.

It would be instructive to compare the numbers of people who died annually during corresponding years from the flu or even the common cold. If someone can find those data, please post them.

What year did measles vaccination begin?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+year+did+measles+vaccination+begin

And I still don't see your point. We shouldn't worry about measles because it only kills sick children? We shouldn't worry about measles because people die from the flu?

[Anonymous]

SR peds is stating the kids were vaccinated, and both got separately from trips abroad.

[Anonymous]

Ohio had 68 cases this month. Large outbreaks have occurred in both California and NY.

This was a disease nearly eradicated in the US in 2014. It is directly attributed to the rise in unvaccinated people catching it from people returning abroad.

In the 1950s about 500 Americans used to die a year from it. You might say that's not a high number--bit if it were your child I'd bet you'd feel pretty stupid you didn't vaccinate. Then there are the immune compromised, pregnant woman and children under 1 you help protect by keeping up the herd immunity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ohio had 68 cases this month. Large outbreaks have occurred in both California and NY.

This was a disease nearly eradicated in the US in 2014. It is directly attributed to the rise in unvaccinated people catching it from people returning abroad.

In the 1950s about 500 Americans used to die a year from it. You might say that's not a high number--bit if it were your child I'd bet you'd feel pretty stupid you didn't vaccinate. Then there are the immune compromised, pregnant woman and children under 1 you help protect by keeping up the herd immunity.

Nearly eradicated in '2000' not '2014'. Typo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you're not immune to rubella (Measles) [have not been vaccinated or not been previously infected with it] and you come down with this illness during early pregnancy, it could be devastating for your baby. You could have a miscarriage or your baby could end up with multiple birth defects and developmental problems. Congenital rubella syndrome, or CRS, is the name given to the pattern of problems caused when a baby is born with the virus.

I hate that people refuse this vaccination! This disease used to be pratically erradicated in the US and now all these crunchy people have allowed it to pop in clusters all over the US. Dumb.dumb.dumb.

So true. A relative had mild measles while pregnant (so mild she didn't know) years ago and her child was born with heart defects and died some months later. These people who choose not to vaccinate put everyone at risk.

[Anonymous]

Apparently the kids were vaccinated (received first dose) but were not old enough to receive second dose so not fully vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently the kids were vaccinated (received first dose) but were not old enough to receive second dose so not fully vaccinated.

I thought it was 1 kid and the most recent case was a health care worker?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some facts since PPs were asking.

1. You can be vaccinated for measles and still be one of the unlucky people for whom the vaccine was not perfectly effective, and therefore still contract it. It is about 95% effective. With herd immunity intact, that level of effectiveness would eventually wipe out the disease (if everyone were vaccinated).
2. This is not a "mutated" strain of measles.
3. Infants under 1 cannot be vaccinated and are at highest risk.
4. People with compromised immune systems or people who cannot be vaccinated (because of actual medical reasons and not Jenny McCarthy) are also at high risk.
5. Measles is extremely contagious and can be contracted just by being in a room someone with measles was in -- not concurrently, but hours earlier.
6. 90% of people not immune will contract measles from being close to someone with measles.
7. Measles is a human-only virus (it has no animal reservoirs) and could be completely eliminated if it weren't for the anti-vaccine movement.
8. The death rate for measles is about 3 in 1000 for healthy children, but it is 30 in 100 for people with immune issues, and can cause other serious complications, including brain damage, even if it doesn't kill (there is a reason it's vaccinated for!).

Source: CDC website

Where on earth did this statistic come from?

I had measles as did everyone I knew when I was a child. There was no vaccine for measles, and it was not in any way a deadly disease. Everyone got it, and no one died.

There are lies, damned lies and statistics -- this is a case of statistics.

In a vaccinated population, very few healthy children will come down with measles. In developing countries, this statistic might be plausible, but that's because those "healthy" children suffer from malnutrition, parasites, poor hygiene, poor access to clean water, etc, all of which contribute to the death rate in these supposedly "healthy" children.

In America, well-nourished middle class children with no immune issues are not likely to die of measles ever.

My sister and I had when we were 3 and 4 and I very nearly died.

[Anonymous]

Where on earth did this statistic come from?

I had measles as did everyone I knew when I was a child. There was no vaccine for measles, and it was not in any way a deadly disease. Everyone got it, and no one died.

Read much? Those statistics are from the CDC. I won't bother mentioning that the CDC's data is more valuable than your dumb anecdotes.

[Anonymous]

Anti vax pinheads on this thread; please return to your hovels and your toothless existence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Where on earth did this statistic come from?

I had measles as did everyone I knew when I was a child. There was no vaccine for measles, and it was not in any way a deadly disease. Everyone got it, and no one died.

There are lies, damned lies and statistics -- this is a case of statistics.

In a vaccinated population, very few healthy children will come down with measles. In developing countries, this statistic might be plausible, but that's because those "healthy" children suffer from malnutrition, parasites, poor hygiene, poor access to clean water, etc, all of which contribute to the death rate in these supposedly "healthy" children.

In America, well-nourished middle class children with no immune issues are not likely to die of measles ever.

In a vaccinated population, very few healthy children will come down with measles BECAUSE THEY ARE VACCINATED.

And maybe nobody you know died of measles. But the actual true fact is that children did die of measles.

Do you want numbers? 400-500 deaths per year in the US in the decade before vaccination; 48,000 hospitalizations per year; 1,000 cases of chronic disability per year because of measles encephalitis. http://www.cdc.gov/measles/vaccination.html

Do you want an example of a child who died of measles? Google Roald Dahl measles.

It's not a good idea to post statistics that are incorrect. You need to re-read the CDC website on measles.

Here is what the CDC website says:

In the decade before the measles vaccination program began, an estimated 3–4 million people in the United States were infected each year, of whom 400–500 died

That works out to 40-50 deaths PER YEAR from measles in the decade before vaccination began. So out of 3-4 million infections per year, only 40-50 died per year. That works out to 1 death in 60,000 cases or 1 death in 133,000 cases depending upon which numbers you use.

These are very loose statistics. It does not give the ages of the victims or their health status prior to acquiring measles.

The website does not say what year vaccination began.

It would be instructive to compare the numbers of people who died annually during corresponding years from the flu or even the common cold. If someone can find those data, please post them.

No, you are not correct. 450 or so people in the US died EACH YEAR. http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/overview.html

[Anonymous]

I'll end this right here. If a real measles outbreak ever happens here, they will close the schools. And OPM is not giving extra days off for it.