measles- beware if you've been these places

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Couples questions

1) has it been concerned that both cases were people/kids who were vaccinated..if so is there concern as to whether the vaccination works.

2) I think I remember my OB checking to see if I was immune to measles when pregnant--is this standard "best practice care? I remember saying I was fully vaccinated per standard for the 80s and doc still wanted to check.

Your OB probably checked your titers to German measles (rubella), which is a different disease. The MMR vaccine is for measles, mumps, rubella.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course, it's not an issue if your DC is vaccinated.

This is too easy, PP. If you hate anti-vaxers, life itself is a constant source of germs, fear, anger and hatred. There is no time to breathe easy, even if you vaccinate. Get with the program or be stoned to death.

Different poster here. Do you spout this kind of idiotic nonsense IRL? There is no correlation in what you are saying.

This person shows up in every vaccine thread and says the same thing. It is her thing. Just ignore. She is dumb.

Sorry but this is how you appear to many people. Even the "pro-vax" posters (and i am one) state they are appalled by the "dumb" and mean spirited posts on this and any thread relating to vaccines.

I am a different person than the one you originally quoted. It is clear you don't have a basic grasp on vaccines or immunology. So perhaps you should keep your very wrong assertions to yourself.

[Anonymous]

If the chickenpox vaccine did lead to an increased incidence of shingles, then we already have the solution for that problem: a chickenpox booster, aka the shingles vaccine.

But in fact the chickenpox vaccine has NOT led to an increase in shingles.

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1784289

Background: Introduction of a universal varicella vaccine program for U.S. children in 1996 sparked concern that less-frequent exposure to varicella would decrease external boosting of immunity to varicella zoster virus and thereby increase incidence of herpes zoster (HZ).

Objective: To determine whether the varicella vaccination program has influenced trends in HZ incidence in the U.S. population older than 65 years.

Design: Retrospective study of Medicare claims.

Setting: Medicare, 1992 through 2010.

Participants: 2 848 765 beneficiaries older than 65 years.

Measurements: Annual HZ incidence from 1992 through 2010; rate ratios (RRs) for HZ incidence by age, sex, and race or ethnicity; and state-level varicella vaccination coverage.

Results: 281 317 incident cases of HZ occurred. Age- and sex-standardized HZ incidence increased 39% from 10.0 per 1000 person-years in 1992 to 13.9 per 1000 person-years in 2010 with no evidence of a statistically significant change in the rate of increase after introduction of the varicella vaccination program. Before introduction of this program, HZ incidence was higher in women (RR, 1.21 [95% CI, 1.19 to 1.24]) than men and was lower in black persons (RR, 0.51 [CI, 0.48 to 0.53]) and Hispanic persons (RR, 0.76 [CI, 0.72 to 0.81]) than white persons. In a model adjusted for sex, age, and calendar year from 1997 to 2010, HZ incidence did not vary by state varicella vaccination coverage (RR, 0.9998 [CI, 0.9993 to 1.0003]).

Limitation: Uncertain level and consistency of health-seeking behavior and access and uncertain accuracy of disease coding.

Conclusion: Age-specific HZ incidence increased in the U.S. population older than 65 years even before implementation of the childhood varicella vaccination program. Introduction and widespread use of the vaccine did not seem to affect this increase. This information is reassuring for countries considering universal varicella vaccination.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the chickenpox vaccine did lead to an increased incidence of shingles, then we already have the solution for that problem: a chickenpox booster, aka the shingles vaccine.

But in fact the chickenpox vaccine has NOT led to an increase in shingles.

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1784289

Background: Introduction of a universal varicella vaccine program for U.S. children in 1996 sparked concern that less-frequent exposure to varicella would decrease external boosting of immunity to varicella zoster virus and thereby increase incidence of herpes zoster (HZ).

Objective: To determine whether the varicella vaccination program has influenced trends in HZ incidence in the U.S. population older than 65 years.

Design: Retrospective study of Medicare claims.

Setting: Medicare, 1992 through 2010.

Participants: 2 848 765 beneficiaries older than 65 years.

Measurements: Annual HZ incidence from 1992 through 2010; rate ratios (RRs) for HZ incidence by age, sex, and race or ethnicity; and state-level varicella vaccination coverage.

Results: 281 317 incident cases of HZ occurred. Age- and sex-standardized HZ incidence increased 39% from 10.0 per 1000 person-years in 1992 to 13.9 per 1000 person-years in 2010 with no evidence of a statistically significant change in the rate of increase after introduction of the varicella vaccination program. Before introduction of this program, HZ incidence was higher in women (RR, 1.21 [95% CI, 1.19 to 1.24]) than men and was lower in black persons (RR, 0.51 [CI, 0.48 to 0.53]) and Hispanic persons (RR, 0.76 [CI, 0.72 to 0.81]) than white persons. In a model adjusted for sex, age, and calendar year from 1997 to 2010, HZ incidence did not vary by state varicella vaccination coverage (RR, 0.9998 [CI, 0.9993 to 1.0003]).

Limitation: Uncertain level and consistency of health-seeking behavior and access and uncertain accuracy of disease coding.

Conclusion: Age-specific HZ incidence increased in the U.S. population older than 65 years even before implementation of the childhood varicella vaccination program. Introduction and widespread use of the vaccine did not seem to affect this increase. This information is reassuring for countries considering universal varicella vaccination.

65 and over but the increase is in children.

[Anonymous]

I was at Lifetime last week during the exposure window and the Dept of Health called me today. They stated the second case was an adult who was in the locker room at Lifetime Fitness. Wouldn't say if male or female. I had a positive immunity measles titer in 2003 and my 4 year old daughter has had 2 rounds of the MMR, so they declared us very low/ no risk. But my friend's husband was also contacted, and because of his age, they told him to get another MMR shot. Apparently when we were young (1970's) the medical community thought one MMR was effective and so we weren't required to get a second booster shot. The Va Dept of Health is giving free vaccinations to anyone at the exposure sites.

[Anonymous]

Also- this is 21:50- the health dept said the second case was an adult who was vaccinated as a child with one Shot but still contracted it.

[Anonymous]

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65 and over but the increase is in children.

What are you saying? That the chickenpox vaccine has led to an increase in shingles in children? How would this work, exactly? How would children who have been vaccinated against chickenpox get shingles as children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

65 and over but the increase is in children.

What are you saying? That the chickenpox vaccine has led to an increase in shingles in children? How would this work, exactly? How would children who have been vaccinated against chickenpox get shingles as children?

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Look it up. Plenty of info out there about shingles and the vaccine. Some countries are holding off on the vericella vaccine and monitoring our results to see if the prediction, that a vaccine against chicken pox would bring on an increase in shingles, is correct. It appears to be correct so far.

If you don't believe the law of unintended consequences by now, then you don't have much life experience.

[Anonymous]

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65 and over but the increase is in children.

What are you saying? That the chickenpox vaccine has led to an increase in shingles in children? How would this work, exactly? How would children who have been vaccinated against chickenpox get shingles as children?

Well, you see, it's pretty simple. Once the virus is in your body, it is always there, and can/will manifest as shingles. When my child got shingles, at 3, his provider told us that she was seeing at least 100 cases of pediatric shingles a year when she saw almost none prior to the vaccine. She said it was pretty ironic since the entire point of vaccinating for chicken pox was to avoid shingles later on. That it obviously wasn't working the way it was intended and that the pharmacutical companies went on to make another vaccine, specifically for shingles, but it can't be administered until you are middle aged to elderly.

The real reason the chicken pox vaccine is still around is because schools are mandating them. Employers want their employees to work and not be at home taking care of sick kids. It's not "big pharma" pushing for it but it's still out there because of money.

I wish I knew, before I vaccinated for CP, what I know now. I may still have done it but it would have been a more informed choice.

We are up to date on all vaccines though I am opting out of the HPV vaccine. The kids have until the age of 26 to get that one.

[Anonymous]

How long do you think before we hear about another case? Do you think there will be another?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, you see, it's pretty simple. Once the virus is in your body, it is always there, and can/will manifest as shingles. When my child got shingles, at 3, his provider told us that she was seeing at least 100 cases of pediatric shingles a year when she saw almost none prior to the vaccine. She said it was pretty ironic since the entire point of vaccinating for chicken pox was to avoid shingles later on. That it obviously wasn't working the way it was intended and that the pharmacutical companies went on to make another vaccine, specifically for shingles, but it can't be administered until you are middle aged to elderly.

Oh well, if your child's provider told you about her anecdotal experience, then it must be true, and never mind that the research shows that the incidence of shingles in children is declining:

BACKGROUND:

Vaccine-strain herpes zoster (HZ) can occur after varicella vaccination. This study determined the number and proportion of HZ cases caused by vaccine-strain varicella zoster virus (VZV), assessed the positive predictive value of provider diagnosis of HZ, and computed HZ incidence rates in vaccinated and unvaccinated children.

METHODS:

We used electronic medical records to identify all office visits with an HZ diagnosis for children aged <18 years in a managed care plan. Providers collected skin specimens and completed a questionnaire. Specimens were tested by polymerase chain reaction to identify wild-type or vaccine-strain VZV.

RESULTS:

From May 2005 to September 2009, we enrolled 322 subjects. VZV was detected in 82% of specimens (84% wild-type, 15% vaccine-strain, 1% possible vaccine-wild-type recombinant). Among the 118 vaccinated subjects, VZV was detected in 70% (52% wild-type). The positive predictive value for provider diagnosis of "definite HZ" was 93% for unvaccinated and 79% for vaccinated children. The incidence of laboratory-confirmed HZ was 48 per 100,000 person-years in vaccinated children (both wild-type and vaccine-strain) and 230 per 100,000 person-years in unvaccinated children (wild-type only).

CONCLUSIONS:

HZ incidence in vaccinated children was 79% lower than in unvaccinated children. Among vaccinated children, half of HZ cases were due to wild-type VZV.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23922376

Also, I'm pretty sure that the entire point of vaccinating for chicken pox is to prevent chicken pox. Which means that the vaccine actually is working the way it was intended. 2 doses of the chicken pox vaccine are 98% effective at preventing chicken pox.

[Anonymous]

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Allergy to vaccine? Bullshit.

Try researching a bit before you judge.

Yes, if my kid has a severe peanut allergy, then no he is not getting the vaccines. Yes, he does have a medical exemption for this reason. Most vaccines have now include peanut oil as a stabilizer. When you inject these with the antigen for the vaccine the kids body fights the antigen and the peanut oil. Hence all of the peanut allergies now a days. Other stabilizers include soy, yeast, eggs. Those allergies have been on the rise as well.

When most of us were younger we had 7 vaccines, now our kids get 24 by age 2. And you all can't think for a moment that all of these vaccines May be contributing to all of the neurological behaviors as well that we are seeing now?

Sorry, this is so ridiculous I can't let it go uncontested.

THERE IS NO PEANUT MATERIAL IN VACCINES.

Here is the CDC's complete listing of vaccine contents and the materials used in their manufacture (that aren't even detectable in the vaccine itself). Please demonstrate where peanut oil or any peanut derivative is found: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Or please link to any peer-reviewed studies showing increased risk of peanut allergy for vaccinated children.

P.S. Blog posts and "natural news" links don't count.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Allergy to vaccine? Bullshit.

Try researching a bit before you judge.

Yes, if my kid has a severe peanut allergy, then no he is not getting the vaccines. Yes, he does have a medical exemption for this reason. Most vaccines have now include peanut oil as a stabilizer. When you inject these with the antigen for the vaccine the kids body fights the antigen and the peanut oil. Hence all of the peanut allergies now a days. Other stabilizers include soy, yeast, eggs. Those allergies have been on the rise as well.

When most of us were younger we had 7 vaccines, now our kids get 24 by age 2. And you all can't think for a moment that all of these vaccines May be contributing to all of the neurological behaviors as well that we are seeing now?

Sorry, this is so ridiculous I can't let it go uncontested.

THERE IS NO PEANUT MATERIAL IN VACCINES.

Here is the CDC's complete listing of vaccine contents and the materials used in their manufacture (that aren't even detectable in the vaccine itself). Please demonstrate where peanut oil or any peanut derivative is found: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

Or please link to any peer-reviewed studies showing increased risk of peanut allergy for vaccinated children.

P.S. Blog posts and "natural news" links don't count.

dear person who responded to crazy peanut oil lady, thank you for responding and posting the cdc link. you are a kinder better person than i; people like peanut oil lady drive me bananas. making random decisions on false information and then sticking their ground... thanks.