To all who have a problem with MO CO changing demographics

[Anonymous]

If you are having difficulty with numbers and statistics perhaps a pictorial will help and get things rolling:

The changing face and surname of the county and country:


NMSF for Montgomery County (MCPS)

http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=46007 (2011)
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/boe/meetings/minutes/1980/minutes.102780.pdf (1980)

AP scholars for Montgomery County (MCPS)

http://ww2.gazette.net/stories/113005/aspesch163602_31903.shtml (2005)

USAMO winners

http://www.maa.org/news/usamo2012/winners.html (2012)
http://amc.maa.org/e-exams/e8-usamo/picsusamo.shtml (changing face pictorial from 1990 onwards)

US Presidential Scholars

http://connectedcommunities.us/showthread.php?t=43902

[Anonymous]

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Actually, strictly by population numbers, white kids still outnumber Asians in the W schools and magnets, whatever the test scores are. So stiffing "their" own white kids by eliminating math pathways, just to hold Asian kids back, would be beyond stupid: your theory defies credibility.

Is this waffling or squirming???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actually, strictly by population numbers, white kids still outnumber Asians in the W schools and magnets, whatever the test scores are. So stiffing "their" own white kids by eliminating math pathways, just to hold Asian kids back, would be beyond stupid: your theory defies credibility.

Is this waffling or squirming???

It's an argument you apparently have no answer for. Thus, your own response is certainly BOTH waffling and squirming.

[Anonymous]

Thanks. Case rested.

[Anonymous]

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

Does anyone have any data here -- including the squirming and the waffling?

[Anonymous]

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

Does anyone have any data here -- including the squirming and the waffling?[code]

With all this squirming and waffling the truth must be nearby; which gets to underlying thesis of the raging angst perturbing the fading old leadership guard (e.g., College Board blunder. MCPS decision to forbid and prevent high performers moving forward in math, the issues with demographics in the U of California system, the law suits in the Ivy league --Princeton and Harvard)

[Anonymous]

This is all quite silly especially considering the fact the second generation kids (per statistics) perform poorer than their parents. MoCo has to know this... Targeting high performing immigrants whose numbers in no way threaten the white power structure is silly in light of the fact that these immigrants children become "americanized" and lose their advantage.

[Anonymous]

I will tell you how quickly that the demo's have changed. It was not that long ago that many schools did not have a teacher who spoke Spanish. If there was ever an issue where translation was needed the school called another school where it was known that a bi-lingual teacher was located. They then put the student or parent on the phone and there was a three-way conversation.

I can recall this happening in the late 80's.

[Anonymous]

Let's see:

The demographics in the County have changed dramatically?

And there is a widening gap between the highest academic performers (Asians) in the County and whites?

[Anonymous]

Looks like everybody's decided you're nuts, and they've taken their toys and gone home.

You've been told your explanation makes no sense, as a rationale for doing away with math acceleration, because numerically there are still more white children than Asian, so this would be self-defeating for what you erroneously call the "old guard." You've also been told there's a simple explanation: testing forces schools to focus on the low and middle-achieving kids.

Occam's Razor: if there are several possible explanations, choose the simplest one. Not the conspiracy theory.

[Anonymous]

Looks like everybody's decided you're nuts, and they've taken their toys and gone home.

You've been told your explanation makes no sense, as a rationale for doing away with math acceleration, because numerically there are still more white children than Asian, so this would be self-defeating for what you erroneously call the "old guard." You've also been told there's a simple explanation: testing forces schools to focus on the low and middle-achieving kids.

Occam's Razor: if there are several possible explanations, choose the simplest one. Not the conspiracy theory.

Oh really, or is the truth but a sore painful admission. for you. Instead, twist, squirm and waffle.

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

A straightforward and simple question you obviously can't bring yourself to answer. If you can muster the courage to answer this question it will go along way to your understanding of what several posters have alluded to regarding MCPS policy banning advancement of students already mastering math (no more pathways) and the recent College Board public relations fiasco.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Looks like everybody's decided you're nuts, and they've taken their toys and gone home.

You've been told your explanation makes no sense, as a rationale for doing away with math acceleration, because numerically there are still more white children than Asian, so this would be self-defeating for what you erroneously call the "old guard." You've also been told there's a simple explanation: testing forces schools to focus on the low and middle-achieving kids.

Occam's Razor: if there are several possible explanations, choose the simplest one. Not the conspiracy theory.

Oh really, or is the truth but a sore painful admission. for you. Instead, twist, squirm and waffle.

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

A straightforward and simple question you obviously can't bring yourself to answer. If you can muster the courage to answer this question it will go along way to your understanding of what several posters have alluded to regarding MCPS policy banning advancement of students already mastering math (no more pathways) and the recent College Board public relations fiasco.

The best part is "several posters" - everyone knows it's just you by your crazy writing style.

And we've answered your stupid question several times.The real question, is why can't you get the answer through your head? As you've been told by other posters besides me, there are so many whites in MoCo, way more than there are Asians, it's ridiculous to postulate some white "old guard" who is out do away with advancement for .... their own kids???? It's incredible you can't understand this simple point.

[Anonymous]

We missed the your answer.

Is there a widening achievement and performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and in MCPS?

The College Board, like MCPS leadership, is made up of the old generation elite (old guard) and the education estabilshment that are watching a new generation of high performers that are not their own children but are children of recent immigrants. Imagine the College Board sanctioning prep for the SAT reasoning and aptitude test (heresy)?

Imagine yet the College Board rewarding the elite test prep payers (old guard) with a "special SAT exam session" in the summer? Note, others prepping in the summer can't take the test until the fall with course work, college applications and extracurriculars in the mix.

Guess what, thrifty recent immigrant children do not shell out five grand ($5,000) for a 3 week summer prep capped off with the opportunity to take the SAT immediately afterward at peak prep mode. The old establishment guard does this.

An in a "TIA" moment (blind spot) the College Board gives this group an advantage. Why? For precisely the same reason the old guard here in MCPS wants to block the advancement of these new high flying performers by eliminating pathways to give their own children an advantage and "close" the gap. This strategy is "quietly" permeating all phases of education in America. The children of the educational leadership and old guard are no longer the high performers and hence it's time to change policy and the rules (while they are still in charge).

The College Board blundered and they were called out. MCPS, too, has blundered and they are being called out. Who benefits and stands to gain the most from from these attempted policy changes? Who is the worse off because of these attempted policy changes?


http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/...h-on-new-sat-summer_12424.aspx
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/p...012/06/06/gJQAeLZpIV_blog.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-...d-sat-20120605,0,5866106.story
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/sat-summer_n_1560537.html
http://www.usnewsuniversitydirectory.com/articles/...h-on-new-sat-summer_12424.aspx

[Anonymous]

The best part is "several posters" - everyone knows it's just you by your crazy writing style.

And we've answered your stupid question several times.The real question, is why can't you get the answer through your head? As you've been told by other posters besides me, there are so many whites in MoCo, way more than there are Asians, it's ridiculous to postulate some white "old guard" who is out do away with advancement for .... their own kids???? It's incredible you can't understand this simple point.

Is the answer a yes or no to the question: Is there a widening achievement and academic performance gap between Asian Americans and European Americans (whites) in Montgomery County and MCPS?