UChicago plans to expand by 23% in its undergraduate enrollment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think ED0 preys on teens insecurities

But I don't mind their need aware policy. Take the full pay kids first - makes sense if you're a business that needs cash.

UChicago is need blind for domestic students and need aware for international.

UChicago is need aware for all, except in RD rounds.

You’re just making sh*t up. Lord have mercy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here comes ED negative 1. Applicants apply in their junior year.

The correct terms for UChicago are:
ED0 is the summer before HS senior year

ED00 is fall of HS junior year

ED000 is fall of HS sophomore year

ED000 is fall of HS freshman year

The correct term for you is someone who couldn’t get in anyway.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here comes ED negative 1. Applicants apply in their junior year.

The correct terms for UChicago are:
ED0 is the summer before HS senior year

ED00 is fall of HS junior year

ED000 is fall of HS sophomore year

ED000 is fall of HS freshman year

This just exemplifies how stupid the Chicago hate is. You realize adding more zeros changes nothing? 0+0+0=0

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight, but several schools have increased enrollment recently— Yale, Rice announced a similar move. Sky hasn’t fallen in New Haven as far as I can tell.

Yale increased class size by 100 kids per year, starting a couple years ago. Aim was to do it for 4 years, 400 total. After those 4 years, undergrad will be 6600 kids.

This isn't the first time they've added students. Last time was when they build two entirely new residential colleges. They increased by about 500 kids then. About 25 years ago, Yale enrolled 5500 kids. A couple years from now it will be 6600

I'm pretty sure UChicago enrollment size over the last 25 years doesn't resemble what Yale is doing ie building new infrastructure, hiring staff, adding 20%. Hasn't it tripled in size?

UChicago has built new infrastructure: North in 2016 and Woodlawn in 2020, which are 2 residential commons with respective dining halls attached. Together, they can accommodate 2,100 students.

UChicago has also increased its faculty size significantly: tenure-track faculty have grown by more than 20% over the past 10 years alone. This aggressive hiring is a partial contributor to their current debt and deficit.

So to say UChicago isn't growing isn't only misinformed, it's actually the complete opposite of what has happened: they have grown so large so quickly that their debt and deficits have skyrocketed.

This is why they have shifted to rely on ED and admit many elite private school kids, which many on this board seem to dislike. Here's why this is a smart move:

1. They know the elite private school graduates they deem a 'fit' with UChicago will come to campus prepared. There's little to no academic risk involved.
2. The elite private school graduates will bring their extensive networks with them to campus and will likely go on to have lucrative careers, boosting donation revenue.
3. Most families at elite private schools are full-pay, so UChicago can still have a need-blind admissions process but take reliable bets that the elite private school kids they admit will be full-pay.
4. Taking ~70% of their class through binding ED rounds means that they have a picture of their financials far earlier than other schools. This leaves little room for guesswork and more time to address gaps and ensure that their financial aid picture meets institutional goals.

Let me guess where your kids attend(ed)

Let me guess where yours didn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here comes ED negative 1. Applicants apply in their junior year.

The correct terms for UChicago are:
ED0 is the summer before HS senior year

ED00 is fall of HS junior year

ED000 is fall of HS sophomore year

ED000 is fall of HS freshman year

The correct term for you is someone who couldn’t get in anyway.

did i hit a nerve?

No, I just think you’re weirdly obsessed with this and I suspect I know the reason why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the disregard for/dislike of UChicago on this forum. It's a globally renowned university that attracts exceptional students, full pay or otherwise.

It's 95% the same loser with the same writing style.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the disregard for/dislike of UChicago on this forum. It's a globally renowned university that attracts exceptional students, full pay or otherwise.

It's 95% the same loser with the same writing style.

I’ve caught onto this a while ago but every time we unfortunately take the bait.

OP is “Emory mom” — it’s no mere coincidence the thread “Is WashU declining” that she created appeared at the same time as the thread “Is UChicago declining” the other night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight, but several schools have increased enrollment recently— Yale, Rice announced a similar move. Sky hasn’t fallen in New Haven as far as I can tell.

Yale increased class size by 100 kids per year, starting a couple years ago. Aim was to do it for 4 years, 400 total. After those 4 years, undergrad will be 6600 kids.

This isn't the first time they've added students. Last time was when they build two entirely new residential colleges. They increased by about 500 kids then. About 25 years ago, Yale enrolled 5500 kids. A couple years from now it will be 6600

I'm pretty sure UChicago enrollment size over the last 25 years doesn't resemble what Yale is doing ie building new infrastructure, hiring staff, adding 20%. Hasn't it tripled in size?

UChicago has built new infrastructure: North in 2016 and Woodlawn in 2020, which are 2 residential commons with respective dining halls attached. Together, they can accommodate 2,100 students.

UChicago has also increased its faculty size significantly: tenure-track faculty have grown by more than 20% over the past 10 years alone. This aggressive hiring is a partial contributor to their current debt and deficit.

So to say UChicago isn't growing isn't only misinformed, it's actually the complete opposite of what has happened: they have grown so large so quickly that their debt and deficits have skyrocketed.

This is why they have shifted to rely on ED and admit many elite private school kids, which many on this board seem to dislike. Here's why this is a smart move:

1. They know the elite private school graduates they deem a 'fit' with UChicago will come to campus prepared. There's little to no academic risk involved.
2. The elite private school graduates will bring their extensive networks with them to campus and will likely go on to have lucrative careers, boosting donation revenue.
3. Most families at elite private schools are full-pay, so UChicago can still have a need-blind admissions process but take reliable bets that the elite private school kids they admit will be full-pay.
4. Taking ~70% of their class through binding ED rounds means that they have a picture of their financials far earlier than other schools. This leaves little room for guesswork and more time to address gaps and ensure that their financial aid picture meets institutional goals.

Let me guess where your kids attend(ed)

Let me guess where yours didn’t.

Witty!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Penn has 12k undergraduate students, why can’t Chicago?

Penn has 10k. But agree with your point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No dog in this fight, but several schools have increased enrollment recently— Yale, Rice announced a similar move. Sky hasn’t fallen in New Haven as far as I can tell.

Yale increased class size by 100 kids per year, starting a couple years ago. Aim was to do it for 4 years, 400 total. After those 4 years, undergrad will be 6600 kids.

This isn't the first time they've added students. Last time was when they build two entirely new residential colleges. They increased by about 500 kids then. About 25 years ago, Yale enrolled 5500 kids. A couple years from now it will be 6600

I'm pretty sure UChicago enrollment size over the last 25 years doesn't resemble what Yale is doing ie building new infrastructure, hiring staff, adding 20%. Hasn't it tripled in size?

UChicago has built new infrastructure: North in 2016 and Woodlawn in 2020, which are 2 residential commons with respective dining halls attached. Together, they can accommodate 2,100 students.

UChicago has also increased its faculty size significantly: tenure-track faculty have grown by more than 20% over the past 10 years alone. This aggressive hiring is a partial contributor to their current debt and deficit.

So to say UChicago isn't growing isn't only misinformed, it's actually the complete opposite of what has happened: they have grown so large so quickly that their debt and deficits have skyrocketed.

This is why they have shifted to rely on ED and admit many elite private school kids, which many on this board seem to dislike. Here's why this is a smart move:

1. They know the elite private school graduates they deem a 'fit' with UChicago will come to campus prepared. There's little to no academic risk involved.
2. The elite private school graduates will bring their extensive networks with them to campus and will likely go on to have lucrative careers, boosting donation revenue.
3. Most families at elite private schools are full-pay, so UChicago can still have a need-blind admissions process but take reliable bets that the elite private school kids they admit will be full-pay.
4. Taking ~70% of their class through binding ED rounds means that they have a picture of their financials far earlier than other schools. This leaves little room for guesswork and more time to address gaps and ensure that their financial aid picture meets institutional goals.

Let me guess where your kids attend(ed)

Let me guess where yours didn’t.

Witty!

Jealous!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ED0 preys on teens insecurities

But I don't mind their need aware policy. Take the full pay kids first - makes sense if you're a business that needs cash.

UChicago is need blind for domestic students and need aware for international.

UChicago very quietly and under the radar went need aware for everyone two years ago.

They are not need blind for anyone (only top 20 school in that position).

How do you know?

My kid has several friends (from weeklong enrichment program) who applied ED0 + financial aid. There is no pattern based on need that explains the outcomes.

Of course they still admit some students with financial need. Being need aware doesn't change that, it simply changes what factor(s) they can or do consider in their review/decision-making.

I’m aware because I work in higher education.

You are welcome to call or email the UChicago admissions or financial aid offices and clearly/directly ask the question if you’d like. “Are you need aware or need blind?” Feel free to report back what you learn….

[Anonymous]

Chicago focuses a lot of its DEI recruitment efforts on Questbridge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll never understand the disregard for/dislike of UChicago on this forum. It's a globally renowned university that attracts exceptional students, full pay or otherwise.

It's 95% the same loser with the same writing style.

I’ve caught onto this a while ago but every time we unfortunately take the bait.

OP is “Emory mom” — it’s no mere coincidence the thread “Is WashU declining” that she created appeared at the same time as the thread “Is UChicago declining” the other night.

The UChicago boosters are just a very sensitive bunch - who scream “Emory Mom” when anything critical is posted about the school. It’s a really sad, strange phenomenon. Hopefully they can find a safe space on another forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ED0 preys on teens insecurities

But I don't mind their need aware policy. Take the full pay kids first - makes sense if you're a business that needs cash.

UChicago is need blind for domestic students and need aware for international.

UChicago very quietly and under the radar went need aware for everyone two years ago.

They are not need blind for anyone (only top 20 school in that position).

How do you know?

My kid has several friends (from weeklong enrichment program) who applied ED0 + financial aid. There is no pattern based on need that explains the outcomes.

Of course they still admit some students with financial need. Being need aware doesn't change that, it simply changes what factor(s) they can or do consider in their review/decision-making.

I’m aware because I work in higher education.

You are welcome to call or email the UChicago admissions or financial aid offices and clearly/directly ask the question if you’d like. “Are you need aware or need blind?” Feel free to report back what you learn….

It’s need blind for domestic students.

I hope you don’t throw around wildly inaccurate statements like this at your “higher education” job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think ED0 preys on teens insecurities

But I don't mind their need aware policy. Take the full pay kids first - makes sense if you're a business that needs cash.

UChicago is need blind for domestic students and need aware for international.

UChicago very quietly and under the radar went need aware for everyone two years ago.

They are not need blind for anyone (only top 20 school in that position).

How do you know?

My kid has several friends (from weeklong enrichment program) who applied ED0 + financial aid. There is no pattern based on need that explains the outcomes.

Of course they still admit some students with financial need. Being need aware doesn't change that, it simply changes what factor(s) they can or do consider in their review/decision-making.

I’m aware because I work in higher education.

You are welcome to call or email the UChicago admissions or financial aid offices and clearly/directly ask the question if you’d like. “Are you need aware or need blind?” Feel free to report back what you learn….

It’s need blind for domestic students.

I hope you don’t throw around wildly inaccurate statements like this at your “higher education” job.

+1 Chicago Derangement Syndrome seems to be strong with that one.