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Anonymous wrote:For a little fun, you can watch the ongoing briefing wars between Charles/Camilla and William's teams.

William's folks are always briefing, through his mouthpieces like Tom Sykes, that Charles will be dead within the year and William is actually the power behind the throne. This despite William being on vacation both times Charles dealt with Andrew, last fall and when Andrew got arrested the other week, but whatever.

And Charles/Camilla counter that Charles is so much better that he's cut way back on treatment. Not dying anytime soon, y'all! They also counter with stuff like this, about William being horrible and arrogant: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/horrible-arrogant-shock-claim-about-royal/news-story/10b715c039d218b5493b718601180874. Well, that first appeared in a British paper the other week, before being reprinted by this curent outlet, but I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out.

Fun times. Looks like Charles has issues with both his sons!

I actually think the press just makes stuff up sometimes- about both sons. William usually ignores it, but Harry and Meagan have made it their mission to take the press to task. Harry was just overseas testifying against one of the papers recently. I don't really believe all these articles.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

DP. Oh I had forgotten about that scene! Meghan seemed super annoyed and Mindy seemed clueless. I don’t know why Netflix didn’t cut it, it was so awkward!

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Anonymous wrote:For a little fun, you can watch the ongoing briefing wars between Charles/Camilla and William's teams.

William's folks are always briefing, through his mouthpieces like Tom Sykes, that Charles will be dead within the year and William is actually the power behind the throne. This despite William being on vacation both times Charles dealt with Andrew, last fall and when Andrew got arrested the other week, but whatever.

And Charles/Camilla counter that Charles is so much better that he's cut way back on treatment. Not dying anytime soon, y'all! They also counter with stuff like this, about William being horrible and arrogant: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/horrible-arrogant-shock-claim-about-royal/news-story/10b715c039d218b5493b718601180874. Well, that first appeared in a British paper the other week, before being reprinted by this curent outlet, but I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out.

Fun times. Looks like Charles has issues with both his sons!

I actually think the press just makes stuff up sometimes- about both sons. William usually ignores it, but Harry and Meagan have made it their mission to take the press to task. Harry was just overseas testifying against one of the papers recently. I don't really believe all these articles.

William doesn't ignore completely ignore it, although he does a better job of ignoring than Harry and Meghan do. Last week there was an article about Kate visiting a Hindu temple where she took off her shoes and exposed, gasp, bunions and toenail fungus. Those articles were taken down after a day. Yes, Harry and Meghan are currently suing the Mail for tapping their phones several years ago.

The weird thing about the "feuding" articles is that certain "journalists" predictably take the same sides. Becky English speaks for Charles, Tom Sykes speaks for William, and so on. Amanda Platell, Liz Jones, and AN Wilson have apparently been given permission to completely trash the Waleses recently, which is very surprising.

Who knows. Agree that half of it is lies, either planted by one of the palaces, or completely made up by bored "journalists" who need to file something, anything, by the deadline.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

It's bizarre because who has to correct a 'friend" that way. She's a faker with phony friends. Otherwise why be like "Akshually..."

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

I just looked them up because I didn’t know.

Meghan’s Instagram is “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.” I guess because here in the U.S. we don’t use titles like that, her drivers license and official paperwork would just say “Meghan Sussex.” I imagine she often gets asked how she wants to be introduced. It is confusing.

It looks like Kate is recognized as “Catherine, Princess of Wales.” I’m assuming across the pond they call her “Princess Kate” or “Princess Catherine”. I feel bad but I’ll probably always call her “Kate Middleton”! That’s just how I came to know her. It’s like any celebrity who gets married and takes her partner’s new name but you just can’t make it click.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

I think you're grasping at straws so you don't have to backtrack, or your friends must really walk on eggshells around you if you parse the meaning behind "and you know that" or "you know." Not everyone is a "hater," but we can recognize a less-than-flattering exchange that should have been edited. I personally wonder if Netflix left it in to stir the pot.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

She's not allowed to use HRH for commercial purposes. It's not her choice, it's a legal agreement. She is billed as Meagan, Duchess of Sussex all the time, including at an upcoming retreat in Australia.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

I just looked them up because I didn’t know.

Meghan’s Instagram is “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.” I guess because here in the U.S. we don’t use titles like that, her drivers license and official paperwork would just say “Meghan Sussex.” I imagine she often gets asked how she wants to be introduced. It is confusing.

It looks like Kate is recognized as “Catherine, Princess of Wales.” I’m assuming across the pond they call her “Princess Kate” or “Princess Catherine”. I feel bad but I’ll probably always call her “Kate Middleton”! That’s just how I came to know her. It’s like any celebrity who gets married and takes her partner’s new name but you just can’t make it click.

Yeah she's still called Kate Middleton all the time. The press ran a story that she emailed her friends before she got married telling them to call her "Catherine." According to the story, she made the request in a humorous way, but it was a real request. Who knows if it's true!

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

I think you're grasping at straws so you don't have to backtrack, or your friends must really walk on eggshells around you if you parse the meaning behind "and you know that" or "you know." Not everyone is a "hater," but we can recognize a less-than-flattering exchange that should have been edited. I personally wonder if Netflix left it in to stir the pot.

What? This is scary projection-level bs. I agreed it was awkward. Were you wanting me to grovel?

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”

I agree it was a totally awkward exchange. But it is substantively different, because your take made her look extra mean.

Awkward as this exchange was, it seems fair. Meghan seemed to want to get the message out that she's done being called by her father's name bc she's married. "Meghan Sussex" seems fair because the Waleses children, and William and Harry when they were young, use(d) "Waleses" as their surname at school, for sporting events, et cetera. As Meghan also pointed out during this same exchange that her kids use Sussex as their surname at school. And she didn't say "call me Duchess Meghan," nor has she used "HRH" recently, so there's that. Kate's stans famously object to her still being called "Kate Middleton," and this doesn't seem very different.

I just looked them up because I didn’t know.

Meghan’s Instagram is “Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.” I guess because here in the U.S. we don’t use titles like that, her drivers license and official paperwork would just say “Meghan Sussex.” I imagine she often gets asked how she wants to be introduced. It is confusing.

It looks like Kate is recognized as “Catherine, Princess of Wales.” I’m assuming across the pond they call her “Princess Kate” or “Princess Catherine”. I feel bad but I’ll probably always call her “Kate Middleton”! That’s just how I came to know her. It’s like any celebrity who gets married and takes her partner’s new name but you just can’t make it click.

Yeah she's still called Kate Middleton all the time. The press ran a story that she emailed her friends before she got married telling them to call her "Catherine." According to the story, she made the request in a humorous way, but it was a real request. Who knows if it's true!

The Mail and other outlets still call her Kate Middleton, probably for SEO as much as anything else. You can always count on 10-20 outraged posters in the comments section demanding they stop calling her that, lol.