As Ever dropped - Netflix official with show 'Love, M'

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Anonymous wrote:There's mixed messaging on what happened. One claim is that Netflix recouped its initial investment and no reason to continue the partnership at this point since her show didn't do well. The other is this was always the plan, for Netflix to help grow the business then Megan take over from there.
Who knows.

Is that something Netflix does? I can’t think of any comparative shows/products where Netflix’s actual agreed upon role is to help a private company grow. How would the parties even write that into a contract?

I think the Sussexes are a truly unique situation. I'm not saying Meagan's show or store are unique, but their flavor of celebrity (actress turned royal turned lifestyle creator) certainly IS unique. Their Oprah interview had a huge viewership. Why wouldn't Netflix want to end the relationship between on a positive note in case Harry and Meagan ever want to participate in that kind of content again?

It's pretty much over for them. They are aging and haven't been able to do anything of substance in years. Public interest isn't there either.

Disagree. The second they are willing to get personal again, they will have an audience. This may well never happen, but Netflix will be there to pick up the pieces if it does.

Yes, once they are desperate/broke enough to do a reality show, Netflix will be interested.

They're not going to go broke. They may have to face the choice of scaling back their lifestyle or pushing the boundaries of their professional lives more then they would prefer, but they won't go broke. Their worst case scenario is still better than most of us posting here.

I do think Netflix would work with them/exploit them on another tell-all, even without fresh stories. Certainly they haven't discussed everything.

Harry said once that 400 pages of his book were left on the cutting-room floor because they were too incendiary. If I were William, I might cool it with the "I'm going to strip titles from my little bi-racial niece and nephew" threats, because he could make publication happen again if Harry has nothing left to lose.

What do American kids need titles for? Ridiculous. Nobody respects or cares about titles here, where they live.

I agree. Who knows what Harry or Meghan think about William raging about their titles. But it's possible they want to keep their kids' options open. Or maybe they don't care. We don't know. Stripping the titles of biracial kids wouldn't play well in the Commonwealth, though, and that's something to keep in mind. And we do care about titles here, otherwise why are you on this site?

The point is just that, if William keeps being such a vindictive rage machine, Harry might find his way to another tell-all contract with Netflix.

I don't know why you would say William is a "vindictive rage machine." It sounds like the brothers don't get along, and it's mutual.

I doubt anyone is worried about the Sussexes and their titles right now. The Epstein scandal is certainly the only issue that's going to matter for the next few years. They won't divert energy to things like stripping titles or any other family pettiness.

The British press is constantly reporting that William is “incandescent” or “raging” about the Sussexes and will strip their titles as soon as he becomes king, so this isn’t something made up on a mom’s website.

A number of press commentators have actually said this feels like a deliberate part of the distraction. Be mad over here at the Sussexes, not at the BRF for anything to do with/ Andrew, what they know, whether they’re cooperating with the investigation or not

I understand that, but who is telling them that, and why would anyone think this is reliable information? When I read those kinds of stories, they sound like unfounded fluff.

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I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

She willing married into the family. Curtseyed, too. Happy to hold her hand out and take what she could. You don’t need to take a side here.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

Agree that Meghan has been a convenient distraction for whatever else has been going on in that family since Andrew's infamous interview where he denied knowing Virginia. Whatever you think about Meghan, love her or hate her, those days should be over. Which is why it's so strange that William's side keeps briefing that he'll be king soon, and then he'll take the brave step of ... stripping titles from the Sussex family and the York sisters, which seems like a big nothing-burger. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

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For a little fun, you can watch the ongoing briefing wars between Charles/Camilla and William's teams.

William's folks are always briefing, through his mouthpieces like Tom Sykes, that Charles will be dead within the year and William is actually the power behind the throne. This despite William being on vacation both times Charles dealt with Andrew, last fall and when Andrew got arrested the other week, but whatever.

And Charles/Camilla counter that Charles is so much better that he's cut way back on treatment. Not dying anytime soon, y'all! They also counter with stuff like this, about William being horrible and arrogant: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/horrible-arrogant-shock-claim-about-royal/news-story/10b715c039d218b5493b718601180874. Well, that first appeared in a British paper the other week, before being reprinted by this curent outlet, but I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out.

Fun times. Looks like Charles has issues with both his sons!

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Anonymous wrote:For a little fun, you can watch the ongoing briefing wars between Charles/Camilla and William's teams.

William's folks are always briefing, through his mouthpieces like Tom Sykes, that Charles will be dead within the year and William is actually the power behind the throne. This despite William being on vacation both times Charles dealt with Andrew, last fall and when Andrew got arrested the other week, but whatever.

And Charles/Camilla counter that Charles is so much better that he's cut way back on treatment. Not dying anytime soon, y'all! They also counter with stuff like this, about William being horrible and arrogant: https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/royals/horrible-arrogant-shock-claim-about-royal/news-story/10b715c039d218b5493b718601180874. Well, that first appeared in a British paper the other week, before being reprinted by this curent outlet, but I don't have the time or inclination to dig it out.

Fun times. Looks like Charles has issues with both his sons!

Proof that their inbreeding has rendered them mentally deficient. Normal families composed of genetically healthy individuals don't do this.

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Anonymous wrote:There's mixed messaging on what happened. One claim is that Netflix recouped its initial investment and no reason to continue the partnership at this point since her show didn't do well. The other is this was always the plan, for Netflix to help grow the business then Megan take over from there.
Who knows.

Is that something Netflix does? I can’t think of any comparative shows/products where Netflix’s actual agreed upon role is to help a private company grow. How would the parties even write that into a contract?

I think the Sussexes are a truly unique situation. I'm not saying Meagan's show or store are unique, but their flavor of celebrity (actress turned royal turned lifestyle creator) certainly IS unique. Their Oprah interview had a huge viewership. Why wouldn't Netflix want to end the relationship between on a positive note in case Harry and Meagan ever want to participate in that kind of content again?

NP- The Oprah interview drew people in because it was a juicy tell-all. Then Harry also told his story in Spare. There is no more of this sort of content coming without royal access. So what's left? Harry has little to offer and Meghan was a better influencer before she married him with more authentic and fun content. I think the big mistake by both Netflix and H & M was not opening their actual home for the show. People do not want to watch people playing pretend in an over-curated way in a space not even their own with guests who are not their friends.

A lot of reality shows are filmed that way. I’m sure there’s plenty left given the Andrew situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

DP. Sometimes people fall in love and the family is part of the package. Like my dh’s grandfather was an abusive POS but my MIL still took his last name.

That said….i would never have married into this family.

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Anonymous wrote:I bet Harry has stories about Andrew. I'd love to hear them, and I bet other people would too. Wonder what Megan's experiences with him were, too. I'm sure they wouldn't want to hurt Beatrice and Eugenie, who appear to still be on good terms with H&M, but eff Andrew and Fergie.

Remember when Harry did his book and interview and everyone tsk tsked him for "airing the family's dirty laundry"?

More of the BRF's dirty laundry should be aired. Let's find out more about who these people REALLY are behind closed doors. Say what you want about Megan, that she's grasping and self centered and unselfaware. Sure. She's just an actress. But she also walked away from that family when she discovered what they were like, and took Harry with her, and they are raising their kids far from it. Given what we now know, that looks pretty darn smart.

Eh- I don't think she left because of Andrew, but she's the least of their problems and now the whole world knows it.

I don't think she left because of Andrew, but for Megan-haters the narrative has long been that the BRF is mostly good and Megan was selfish and entitled and threw a fit, and us now depriving her husband and kids of relationships with this great, loving family. But:

- Harry's uncle is a pedophile
- Harry's aunt hung with pedophiles, and took his cousins to hang with them too
- Harry's grandmother doted on and protected Harry's pedophile uncle, who was her favorite

And that's before we get to issues with Diana (the cheating and public humiliation), the rivalry between the heir and the spare, and the many weird features of a "family" that is run like a business.

The point is that any normal person would look at Harry's family and no approvingly at Megan's choices here. Their fundamental dysfunction becomes more obvious with each passing day. Megan is far from perfect (and she signed up for this BS too, she fell for Princess bait just like they all do) but I'm going to go ahead and take the side of the person who encouraged her obviously traumatized husband to get therapy and distance from his effed up family, not the effed up family.

When some D list actress/influencer with her own family issues is the most mentally and emotionally functional person in a room, you have Issues.

But if all this is true, why would she want to remain a titled member of the Royal Family and style herself as the Duchess of Sussex? I think it just didnt work out the way she wanted and she left, which is fine.

She styles herself as Meghan Sussex. One of the more well-known (infamous?) moments on her show was when she told someone to call her Meghan Sussex instead of Meghan Markle, because she said, her entire family used Sussex these days. Which seems fair. She also wasn't telling anyone to call her the Duchess of Sussex.

She uses the Duchess of Sussex in the credits of her show. That's how she wants to be credited. She is also introduced by that name. She only said Meghan Sussex bc her friend Mindy was recounting a story about her and she said "Meghan Markle." That's how that came up. Meghan said, "No it's Meagan Sussex and you know that."

She did not add "and you know that." Where do you haters come up with this stuff....

I misremembered- here is the exact quote. I don't think it's substantively different from what I wrote above. Please share if this changes your mind, it sounds like you didn't think it was the greatest thing to say on tv either:

Meghan said, “It’s so funny, too, that you keep saying Meghan Markle. You know I’m Sussex now.”