Government shutdown - February edition

[Anonymous]

The changes are so basic, so minimal, that I suppose it proves everyone's point that ICE is a brutal secret police if the GOP cannot accept them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why they to t just give in and agree to the changes. They are really no-brainers, mild changes as far as I can tell-
No masks, body cams, only use judicial warrants.
What’s the hold up?

This. Can someone explain why the republicans won’t agree to these cosmetic changes that most Americans are for? It doesn’t impact funding. Or immigration enforcement really.

I've heard they can't afford body cams for all....BS

Then they need to reallocate that OBBBA $$$.

[Anonymous]

Largest shutdown was the 43 day shutdown, then the 35 day one over the border wall. Over/under on 43 days?

During the fall shutdown, around 40% were furloughed, and 28% of all feds were funded. Less than 10% of DHS employees are furloughed this time, but I can't find a number on exempt vs. excepted.

[Anonymous]

Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Sounds like a plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

[Anonymous]

Do we think Kristi Noem’s talk about “the right people electing the right leaders” will have an impact on the shutdown? Maybe Noem leaving will be a requirement for it to end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

As we go into the midterms, I don't think there's any chance Democrats will cave on their demands for more ICE accountability. That's a winning issue for them. Every day Noem remains head of DHS is a good day for Democrats - politically. But I don't expect Republicans to budge either. So I would count on this partial shutdown to go on for a very long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

As we go into the midterms, I don't think there's any chance Democrats will cave on their demands for more ICE accountability. That's a winning issue for them. Every day Noem remains head of DHS is a good day for Democrats - politically. But I don't expect Republicans to budge either. So I would count on this partial shutdown to go on for a very long time.

This.
Everyone is tired of the GOP shenanigans and inability to govern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

I’m PP. I know this hurts workers and I’m sorry for that. But as some point we need to stand against fascism.

[Anonymous]

How much of the federal government does DHS represent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

I’m PP. I know this hurts workers and I’m sorry for that. But as some point we need to stand against fascism.

It isn’t even recommended by financial planners to keep a year of savings.
3-6 months, they say.

And that’s if you don’t struggle, don’t have competing savings/investment/debt priorities, don’t have exorbitant mortgage due to DMV home and goods prices.

If government is closed for 3-6 months, you’d see the RE market fail in the area

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

Obviously DHS staff who aren't exempt (as in funded) workers care. Most people don't have the emergency savings to delay income for almost a freaking year, and the job market is trash. And contractors don't get back pay. This is a DC-area board, so have some sympathy for feds caught in the crossfire.

So anyway, to the actual question, how long might it actually last?

I’m PP. I know this hurts workers and I’m sorry for that. But as some point we need to stand against fascism.

It isn’t even recommended by financial planners to keep a year of savings.
3-6 months, they say.

And that’s if you don’t struggle, don’t have competing savings/investment/debt priorities, don’t have exorbitant mortgage due to DMV home and goods prices.

If government is closed for 3-6 months, you’d see the RE market fail in the area

No. That's what they said during the DOGE carnage, and our local economy took a hit but didn't fail. I personally know many people who were laid off. The DHS situation involves FAR FEWER EMPLOYEES, so no, you are way off.

I hope the Democrats will stand firm... but never underestimate Schumer! :-)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much of the federal government does DHS represent?

About 10%, so it's still significant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares? TSA has NEVER foiled a terrorist. FEMA has been destroyed. Trump can find $$ to pay Coast guard if he loves the military. Stay shutdown till 2027 when Dems have some oversight.

It's ironic that that is the one agency the elite class and our politicians can't seem to live without. So appropriate that it's the one that actually gets punished in this fiasco.