Iced out for not being liberal

[Anonymous]

This is a very DC area thing, I've found. Some people want to live in a state of constant agitation and only speak to other people who think and respond and behave exactly the way they do. Lots of violent agreement with each other required. They'd rather watch the whole country go up in a ball of flames then figure a way out of this goddamn mess. They love to talk about how they're going to leave the country and sadly never do. I wish they would. While I worry a lot about Trump and more importantly the movement he's created persisting and blowing up American values and democracy I also worry about this portion of the population's slavish group think, insane rigidity, and inability to stop obsessing over the latest news cycle's drama and think strategically about how to get out of this mess. They are dragging us all down. Many examples on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn’t new for left wingers - been the case for 15 years or so.

Right wingers (especially the educated) are much more tolerant of viewpoint diversity.

If they weren't "tolerant" they'd have no friends.

People don't want to be friends with people who support shitting on Constitution, blatant racism and misogyny, bigotry, etc.

I'm also going to point out I haven't seen posts from liberals complaining that conservatives won't be friends with them or date them. Yet there are so many of these like OP.

it's the Trump effect. It was never like this before Trump.

The people who have a dislike of Trump feel very passionate about it, so if you are a conservative, you are associated with Trump.

-former R married to a liberal, and we both despise Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't think of a single "center right" organization that is anti-Trump that exists.

I thought Pence's new group...while not marketing itself as "anti-Trump" is certainly trying to make the case for a return to Reagan republicanism. They are pulling moderates from the Heritage Group and on the record calling tariffs and other economic policies as socialist, and while believe in a closed border, are very much against what ICE is doing right now.

I think all would agree that Trump basically hates Pence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What shifted so quickly the last 5 years? I’m a younger millennial and have gotten excluded both at work and in my personal life for “being MAGA”, even though I never talk about politics with anyone. FWIW I’m not leftist but not MAGA either, not registered with either party. My BF does work for a center right org that isn’t super involved with Trump anything

Is wanting to keep your political beliefs to yourself passe in NWDC social circles?

How do you know this is the reason for being iced out?

I wonder how long the boyfriend has been around. I've had friends where we had to stop inviting them to things because they wouldn't leave their boyfriend at home and he was a total jerk to everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What shifted so quickly the last 5 years? I’m a younger millennial and have gotten excluded both at work and in my personal life for “being MAGA”, even though I never talk about politics with anyone. FWIW I’m not leftist but not MAGA either, not registered with either party. My BF does work for a center right org that isn’t super involved with Trump anything

Is wanting to keep your political beliefs to yourself passe in NWDC social circles?

This must be a troll. In the current environment, you must realize you are other need to take a stand against Trump otherwise you're effectively supporting his policies.

If you're not a troll, it sounds like you want to support Trump without accepting the consequences of doing so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s say we are in hitlers Germany. You like the economy, feel like the country is united. I mean yeah, Jews should probably go but whatever. Call the cops on Anne frank makes sense since they are breaking the law. We can’t be friends. In the before times you could debate policy like heath care or taxes with conservative friends. Now is lefties see the administration committing morally terrible acts, so anyone not against trump is pro trump

+1

Either you think Trump/MAGA is acceptable or you don't.

[Anonymous]

In many/most parts of the country, people get iced out at work for not being conservative enough. Or White enough. Or even male enough. Generally, you need to support whatever he boss thinks/says, and the boss is usually conservative. As a First Gen Latina college grad, I've personally experienced this when working in Texas. Thankfully, there are some pockets, like the major cities, where that is not always the case. And a lot depends on the industry. My husband works in military contracting and is a retired military officer. He'd be the first to tell you that you'll have a hard time moving up the ranks if you're not willing to praise the people above you who espouse very conservative views on gender/sexual orientation/race/etc... My dad was also military his entire career, and he says it was the same way 50 years ago.

Here in DC, if you work in politics, you have to choose which party you're with; You can't switch back and forth. That was true 30+ years ago when I got my first job on The Hill, and it's even more true today given how far the Rs have moved to the Right. That is unique to jobs in politics though.

[Anonymous]

You live in the DC area. This is a political town. Keeping your views to yourself is not really a thing here and yeah, it's kind of weird at first if you're not from around here. If that's your preference, this place probably isn't a good long term fit for you. Honestly, you'd probably be better off telling people you're an independent than just refusing to discuss your leanings, which will cause people to speculate and assume that you are MAGA but refuse to admit it.

[Anonymous]

Yuck, if a coworker was dating someone who worked for a right wing org, I would want nothing to do with her. Very clear our values do not align.

[Anonymous]

You work for a political org and don't get this? Ok....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a very DC area thing, I've found. Some people want to live in a state of constant agitation and only speak to other people who think and respond and behave exactly the way they do. Lots of violent agreement with each other required. They'd rather watch the whole country go up in a ball of flames then figure a way out of this goddamn mess. They love to talk about how they're going to leave the country and sadly never do. I wish they would. While I worry a lot about Trump and more importantly the movement he's created persisting and blowing up American values and democracy I also worry about this portion of the population's slavish group think, insane rigidity, and inability to stop obsessing over the latest news cycle's drama and think strategically about how to get out of this mess. They are dragging us all down. Many examples on this thread.

"THEY are dragging us all down"?

GTFO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In many/most parts of the country, people get iced out at work for not being conservative enough. Or White enough. Or even male enough. Generally, you need to support whatever he boss thinks/says, and the boss is usually conservative. As a First Gen Latina college grad, I've personally experienced this when working in Texas. Thankfully, there are some pockets, like the major cities, where that is not always the case. And a lot depends on the industry. My husband works in military contracting and is a retired military officer. He'd be the first to tell you that you'll have a hard time moving up the ranks if you're not willing to praise the people above you who espouse very conservative views on gender/sexual orientation/race/etc... My dad was also military his entire career, and he says it was the same way 50 years ago.

Here in DC, if you work in politics, you have to choose which party you're with; You can't switch back and forth. That was true 30+ years ago when I got my first job on The Hill, and it's even more true today given how far the Rs have moved to the Right. That is unique to jobs in politics though.

I think this is true and this is the issue and it's just gotten worse. Just insanely insular worlds and world views. DC used to be more acceptable that Rs and Ds lived among each other and left it at the door and socialized with each other. Post-Trump it changed.

[Anonymous]

Diversity is great! But I’m not going to be friends with anyone who supports rape, pedophilia, kidnapping, murder, etc. All my formerly republican friends are now Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What shifted so quickly the last 5 years? I’m a younger millennial and have gotten excluded both at work and in my personal life for “being MAGA”, even though I never talk about politics with anyone. FWIW I’m not leftist but not MAGA either, not registered with either party. My BF does work for a center right org that isn’t super involved with Trump anything

Is wanting to keep your political beliefs to yourself passe in NWDC social circles?

Who wants to date an anti american racist anti semite idiot who can not read or do math?

Go back to your hole fool.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You live in the DC area. This is a political town. Keeping your views to yourself is not really a thing here and yeah, it's kind of weird at first if you're not from around here. If that's your preference, this place probably isn't a good long term fit for you. Honestly, you'd probably be better off telling people you're an independent than just refusing to discuss your leanings, which will cause people to speculate and assume that you are MAGA but refuse to admit it.

No, everyone knows "independent" is a code word for "trump supporter who is ashamed of herself."