Klonopin is a heck of a drug

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

What do you mean when you say regularly? Do you mean every day? Then you are benzo dependent.

You would find that out if you quit cold turkey tomorrow after taking daily benzoS for 20 years

Exactly. "I've used benzos for 20 years and have no trouble, as long as I keep taking my benzos". Quit your benzo for 6 months and then come back to this thread.

DP, maybe learn how to read. PP said "as needed" which could be a few times a month or even a few times a year. No one is addicted to benzos in that scenario.

DP, and maybe you can also learn how to read. The out-and-proud, two decade user of benzos didn't describe their dosing. Their "as needed" could be daily, at bedtime. Or it could be once a year when she gets get a root canal. I doubt the latter because she's so defiant about DEFINITELY NOT being habituated to a mind-altering drug that she's taken for half a lifetime.

But none of us know because she refused to say.

I'm supposed to read what PP didn't write? Mkkkayyyy you're not very bright.

No amount of your making stuff up to prove your point will negate that the medical community still relies on these medications to help patients with anxiety. Many people use them AS NEEDED and responsibly with great success. Your "doubting" the pp is irrelevant and pointless.

It’s called close reading, troll bot from overseas guy. Reading between the lines. Which bots are not very good at yet, if you are the representative

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

What do you mean when you say regularly? Do you mean every day? Then you are benzo dependent.

You would find that out if you quit cold turkey tomorrow after taking daily benzoS for 20 years

Exactly. "I've used benzos for 20 years and have no trouble, as long as I keep taking my benzos". Quit your benzo for 6 months and then come back to this thread.

DP, maybe learn how to read. PP said "as needed" which could be a few times a month or even a few times a year. No one is addicted to benzos in that scenario.

DP, and maybe you can also learn how to read. The out-and-proud, two decade user of benzos didn't describe their dosing. Their "as needed" could be daily, at bedtime. Or it could be once a year when she gets get a root canal. I doubt the latter because she's so defiant about DEFINITELY NOT being habituated to a mind-altering drug that she's taken for half a lifetime.

But none of us know because she refused to say.

I'm supposed to read what PP didn't write? Mkkkayyyy you're not very bright.

No amount of your making stuff up to prove your point will negate that the medical community still relies on these medications to help patients with anxiety. Many people use them AS NEEDED and responsibly with great success. Your "doubting" the pp is irrelevant and pointless.

It’s called close reading, troll bot from overseas guy. Reading between the lines. Which bots are not very good at yet, if you are the representative

No, it's called making shit up to fit your narrative. That's what you're doing.

Also, making stuff up about who I am is not bolstering your argument. Do better. Learn how to read.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

Exactly. I hate these "sound bite posters" who have very little knowledge about these drugs but feel the need to chime in with "benzos bad" in every thread.

Benzos are bad. Very bad. And plenty of people with vast knowledge on this will tell you that. NP.

Like who?

Like the AMA.

The AMA does not say “Benzos are bad”. Yes taking them recreationally is bad. Taking them a couple times a year for panic attacks or episodic anxiety issues (like flying, or going to the dentist) is fine.
Signed, a doctor.

Sure, doc. But, and hear me out here, how about teaching your patients some coping skills that aren't drugs, or giving them drugs that have low or no recreational value, especially if they only need them once or twice a year?

Very few people truly need these meds. Lots of people want them. Lots of people don't want to deal with reality. These things are related, and a primary cause of addiction issues.

DP, how about you eff off. I hate ignorant people like you.

Please learn coping skills next time you get an infection or your BP is high.

Aww, the benzo addict is triggered. You can't think away an infection, and while calming down (a skill you clearly lack) can help lower your blood pressure in way, it's not going to fix any physiological problem that raised your BP in the first place.

Your anxiety is literally all in your head, and there are plenty of things you can do to wrangle it that don't involve medicating away the symptoms. And that's all your little benzo does: block the symptoms, temporarily. If you know that you get anxious when you fly (which won't kill you, BTW), you can unfsck that in your own head with therapy, meditation, breathing, simple lessons in acceptance, not being a control freak, etc. But you're a lazy candyass who doesn't want to do that work, so you pop pills. If you can admit that, there's no problem. But you can't, so you make these ridiculous arguments about how benzos "save lives". No, they save intellectually lazy people from the labor required to manage their feelings without drugs.

Awwww, our resident dumb ass has come back to chime in with baseless claims and personal insults because she has no argument. Again, go eff yourself. You are ignorant, uneducated and plain dumb. Come back when you actually have something of value to contribute.

Did you read what the pp wrote? Because it makes a lot more sense than your nasty, namecalling screed, and definitely contributed more to the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI occasional gummies work better. There are some for insomnia and some for anxiety.

FYI "gummies" have addictive potential and a host of side effects. Arguably, they're even less safe than benzos; at least benzos are regulated and you know what you're getting.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

Exactly. I hate these "sound bite posters" who have very little knowledge about these drugs but feel the need to chime in with "benzos bad" in every thread.

Benzos are bad. Very bad. And plenty of people with vast knowledge on this will tell you that. NP.

Like who?

Like the AMA.

The AMA does not say “Benzos are bad”. Yes taking them recreationally is bad. Taking them a couple times a year for panic attacks or episodic anxiety issues (like flying, or going to the dentist) is fine.
Signed, a doctor.

Sure, doc. But, and hear me out here, how about teaching your patients some coping skills that aren't drugs, or giving them drugs that have low or no recreational value, especially if they only need them once or twice a year?

Very few people truly need these meds. Lots of people want them. Lots of people don't want to deal with reality. These things are related, and a primary cause of addiction issues.

DP, how about you eff off. I hate ignorant people like you.

Please learn coping skills next time you get an infection or your BP is high.

Aww, the benzo addict is triggered. You can't think away an infection, and while calming down (a skill you clearly lack) can help lower your blood pressure in way, it's not going to fix any physiological problem that raised your BP in the first place.

Your anxiety is literally all in your head, and there are plenty of things you can do to wrangle it that don't involve medicating away the symptoms. And that's all your little benzo does: block the symptoms, temporarily. If you know that you get anxious when you fly (which won't kill you, BTW), you can unfsck that in your own head with therapy, meditation, breathing, simple lessons in acceptance, not being a control freak, etc. But you're a lazy candyass who doesn't want to do that work, so you pop pills. If you can admit that, there's no problem. But you can't, so you make these ridiculous arguments about how benzos "save lives". No, they save intellectually lazy people from the labor required to manage their feelings without drugs.

Awwww, our resident dumb ass has come back to chime in with baseless claims and personal insults because she has no argument. Again, go eff yourself. You are ignorant, uneducated and plain dumb. Come back when you actually have something of value to contribute.

Did you read what the pp wrote? Because it makes a lot more sense than your nasty, namecalling screed, and definitely contributed more to the thread.

Why are you back. You have zero idea what you’re talking about and your “advice” is nothing but garbage that could actually harm another person. Go away.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI occasional gummies work better. There are some for insomnia and some for anxiety.

FYI "gummies" have addictive potential and a host of side effects. Arguably, they're even less safe than benzos; at least benzos are regulated and you know what you're getting.

Its insane to me that we are not regulating pot because it can 1000 percent be beneficial for many.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI occasional gummies work better. There are some for insomnia and some for anxiety.

FYI "gummies" have addictive potential and a host of side effects. Arguably, they're even less safe than benzos; at least benzos are regulated and you know what you're getting.

THC edibles sold in dispensaries are regulated under state laws. They are far less physiologically dependency-forming than benzodiazepines.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

You're joking, right? In 20 years you couldn't get therapy, address your issue or find other methods to cope with whatever occasion?

Can you imagine that someone could have done all of that and still need anxiolytics?

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

Yah. I have a Xanax prescription and I get it refilled once a year. I take half a Xanax for the times I have really bad insomnia and am grateful to have it there when needed.

How many pills do they give you?

30 pills. Refill it once a year or so.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

Exactly. I hate these "sound bite posters" who have very little knowledge about these drugs but feel the need to chime in with "benzos bad" in every thread.

Benzos are bad. Very bad. And plenty of people with vast knowledge on this will tell you that. NP.

Like who?

Like the AMA.

The AMA does not say “Benzos are bad”. Yes taking them recreationally is bad. Taking them a couple times a year for panic attacks or episodic anxiety issues (like flying, or going to the dentist) is fine.
Signed, a doctor.

Sure, doc. But, and hear me out here, how about teaching your patients some coping skills that aren't drugs, or giving them drugs that have low or no recreational value, especially if they only need them once or twice a year?

Very few people truly need these meds. Lots of people want them. Lots of people don't want to deal with reality. These things are related, and a primary cause of addiction issues.

DP, how about you eff off. I hate ignorant people like you.

Please learn coping skills next time you get an infection or your BP is high.

Aww, the benzo addict is triggered. You can't think away an infection, and while calming down (a skill you clearly lack) can help lower your blood pressure in way, it's not going to fix any physiological problem that raised your BP in the first place.

Your anxiety is literally all in your head, and there are plenty of things you can do to wrangle it that don't involve medicating away the symptoms. And that's all your little benzo does: block the symptoms, temporarily. If you know that you get anxious when you fly (which won't kill you, BTW), you can unfsck that in your own head with therapy, meditation, breathing, simple lessons in acceptance, not being a control freak, etc. But you're a lazy candyass who doesn't want to do that work, so you pop pills. If you can admit that, there's no problem. But you can't, so you make these ridiculous arguments about how benzos "save lives". No, they save intellectually lazy people from the labor required to manage their feelings without drugs.

Awwww, our resident dumb ass has come back to chime in with baseless claims and personal insults because she has no argument. Again, go eff yourself. You are ignorant, uneducated and plain dumb. Come back when you actually have something of value to contribute.

Did you read what the pp wrote? Because it makes a lot more sense than your nasty, namecalling screed, and definitely contributed more to the thread.

Why are you back. You have zero idea what you’re talking about and your “advice” is nothing but garbage that could actually harm another person. Go away.

So now telling people not to use addictive substances they don't need is the harm? You're clearly in need of some psych meds yourself, and nasty to boot!

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Anonymous wrote:FYI occasional gummies work better. There are some for insomnia and some for anxiety.

FYI "gummies" have addictive potential and a host of side effects. Arguably, they're even less safe than benzos; at least benzos are regulated and you know what you're getting.

THC edibles sold in dispensaries are regulated under state laws. They are far less physiologically dependency-forming than benzodiazepines.

No, they're actually not. You'd think that, but they're not.

As for the bit about them being less addictive, maybe? Having used both, I'll say they're differently dependency-forming. The withdrawals from both are bullshit I wouldn't suggest anyone go through if there were any way to avoid it, and since neither substance is life-saving, there is.

Don't do addictive drugs and expect zero side-effects. If you're lucky, you might be one of the special people who doesn't develop an addiction. If you're not, you'll end up with worse anxiety than you started with, along with the same problems, and you'll need to do the work of figuring out non-substance coping skills either way.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

Exactly. I hate these "sound bite posters" who have very little knowledge about these drugs but feel the need to chime in with "benzos bad" in every thread.

Benzos are bad. Very bad. And plenty of people with vast knowledge on this will tell you that. NP.

Like who?

Like the AMA.

The AMA does not say “Benzos are bad”. Yes taking them recreationally is bad. Taking them a couple times a year for panic attacks or episodic anxiety issues (like flying, or going to the dentist) is fine.
Signed, a doctor.

Sure, doc. But, and hear me out here, how about teaching your patients some coping skills that aren't drugs, or giving them drugs that have low or no recreational value, especially if they only need them once or twice a year?

Very few people truly need these meds. Lots of people want them. Lots of people don't want to deal with reality. These things are related, and a primary cause of addiction issues.

DP, how about you eff off. I hate ignorant people like you.

Please learn coping skills next time you get an infection or your BP is high.

Aww, the benzo addict is triggered. You can't think away an infection, and while calming down (a skill you clearly lack) can help lower your blood pressure in way, it's not going to fix any physiological problem that raised your BP in the first place.

Your anxiety is literally all in your head, and there are plenty of things you can do to wrangle it that don't involve medicating away the symptoms. And that's all your little benzo does: block the symptoms, temporarily. If you know that you get anxious when you fly (which won't kill you, BTW), you can unfsck that in your own head with therapy, meditation, breathing, simple lessons in acceptance, not being a control freak, etc. But you're a lazy candyass who doesn't want to do that work, so you pop pills. If you can admit that, there's no problem. But you can't, so you make these ridiculous arguments about how benzos "save lives". No, they save intellectually lazy people from the labor required to manage their feelings without drugs.

Awwww, our resident dumb ass has come back to chime in with baseless claims and personal insults because she has no argument. Again, go eff yourself. You are ignorant, uneducated and plain dumb. Come back when you actually have something of value to contribute.

Did you read what the pp wrote? Because it makes a lot more sense than your nasty, namecalling screed, and definitely contributed more to the thread.

Why are you back. You have zero idea what you’re talking about and your “advice” is nothing but garbage that could actually harm another person. Go away.

So now telling people not to use addictive substances they don't need is the harm? You're clearly in need of some psych meds yourself, and nasty to boot!

You have zero idea what people need!!! You are not their doctor. You’re just another idiot online spewing nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Benzos send more people to rehab than any other drug, prescription or not.

I have used them regularly for 20 years as needed with zero problems. Not everyone who uses benzos becomes an addict. It depends on a host of factors, notably genetics. For those who can use them responsibly, they can be a life-saver, so please don't paint with a broad brush.

So you don't know how you'd do without them?

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Anonymous wrote:FYI occasional gummies work better. There are some for insomnia and some for anxiety.

FYI "gummies" have addictive potential and a host of side effects. Arguably, they're even less safe than benzos; at least benzos are regulated and you know what you're getting.

Its insane to me that we are not regulating pot because it can 1000 percent be beneficial for many.

To a point, under certain circumstances, used carefully and short-term, maybe. What's really insane is how little we know about the long-term impact of steady THC use, and how little is said about the downsides and dangers of cannabis use.

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The pot addicts entered the thread. Sorry, op.
game over.