Is Emory a Top Choice For Anyone?

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Anonymous wrote:Too many think there kids are Top10 level, especially those who happen to have went to a T10 20-30 years ago. The admissions standard today is no the same and T25s are the same level today as T10s many years ago. If you apply ED to Emory for any reason than its not a backup, either you love it or you dont think you can do better either way not a backup. If you RD to Emory its still not a back up as its a 5% acceptance rate, with a 1540 SAT avg. Only students who Reach Emory Scholars finals are can consider Emory a backup and thats only 100ish students a year.

Correction: the most recent CDS has 1540 as the 75th percentile SAT, with 1510 as the median. And over a third of the class is test optional. And that’s not counting the kids at Oxford. So the “admissions standard” isn’t as high as PP would like you to believe.

I’m not saying Emory is anyone’s backup, because they take most of their class in ED. But that’s exactly why Emory isn’t really on the radar in the DMV: if you’re a high-stats student, Emory isn’t aspirational enough to justify an ED, and the odds of admission are too low to justify an RD. They also waitlist a lot of kids which, given the rest of the profile, makes me suspect they use the waitlist for yield protection.

They take a little over 50% ED (total
For I and II)which is basically the same as all top 20 ED schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too many think there kids are Top10 level, especially those who happen to have went to a T10 20-30 years ago. The admissions standard today is no the same and T25s are the same level today as T10s many years ago. If you apply ED to Emory for any reason than its not a backup, either you love it or you dont think you can do better either way not a backup. If you RD to Emory its still not a back up as its a 5% acceptance rate, with a 1540 SAT avg. Only students who Reach Emory Scholars finals are can consider Emory a backup and thats only 100ish students a year.

Correction: the most recent CDS has 1540 as the 75th percentile SAT, with 1510 as the median. And over a third of the class is test optional. And that’s not counting the kids at Oxford. So the “admissions standard” isn’t as high as PP would like you to believe.

I’m not saying Emory is anyone’s backup, because they take most of their class in ED. But that’s exactly why Emory isn’t really on the radar in the DMV: if you’re a high-stats student, Emory isn’t aspirational enough to justify an ED, and the odds of admission are too low to justify an RD. They also waitlist a lot of kids which, given the rest of the profile, makes me suspect they use the waitlist for yield protection.

The CDS is from last year. The 1540 avg was from the Emory Admitted students day conference several weeks ago. They also said over 80% submitted test scores. If Emory isnt aspirational enough AND TOO selective, then why do so many top students apply? You sound dumb.

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DMV has a tonne of Emory alum, Im sure their kids are applying.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents who went to Ivies are sheepish and apologetic when their kids attend Emory.

What a strange answer. There are parents that went to Ivies who have kids at all kinds of schools in the top 200.

Are you claiming their sheepishness only comes out for Emory?

Emory is just so . . . boring. And is so clearly a back up. I dunno.

According to DCUM every school outside HYPSM is a back up.

Still don’t get how it’s more boring than Tufts or Rochester or countless other schools.

It gets some of the top ratings for quality of life and other student survey rankings from Princeton Review.

This is true. Outside T5, fit matters, find the school fits you the best. The difference among non-T5 T30 schools are not substantial. Penn or WashU, Vandy or Cornell, different types of kids find where they belong. Outside T30, it's another big drop.

I think some private universities in the T50 still share a similar caliber to those in the T30.
And I agree that fit truly matters.

None do honestly. I would say there's a fairly big drop outside of top 25.

Nope, not for schools like NYU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and USC which is close to T25

Yes all of those are a tier down. NYU and USC are the closest but NYU has lower student quality (only 30% submitting test scores) and USC is academically not the same level as a WashU for instance. The others dont come close especially BU or Wake.

The tier is very thin. Nobody would be surprised by choosing USC or NYU over Emory, and even BU or Northeastern for CS/Engineering and Boston. There isn't much difference in student caliber, especially when Emory gets an inflow from Oxford.

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Oxford stats are almost the same as Emory stats. Many at Oxford have 1500+ SAT’s and the RD admit rate for Oxford alone is still below 20%

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is the Northeastern of the South

wonderful schools, just tough for kids to get excited about them

Almost certain this is the same person replying to the thread constantly.
Emory has 36k applicants
Its peer schools are Rice, Vanderbilt, CMU, WashU, Nortre Dame, and Georgetown.
Emory has more applicants than all except Vanderbilt. Emory is Niche for who it attracts. If you want a pre professional city school its your top choice.

Highly doubt that anyone turns down Notre Dame for Emory. Replace Notre Dame with Johns Hopkins.

Emory generates lots of ED applications due to its major scholarship (Emory Scholars if I recall correctly).

I would definitely strongly consider Emory over ND. Academics are roughly equivalent. Adjacent to big city vs. middle of nowhere. Diverse student body vs. very homogeneous. I'm not saying this to knock ND - incredible school. But Emory has some positive differentiating factors.

Emory is definitely considered better academically. ND is ranked higher for other reasons.

LOL no.

Yes, Emory has 4.2 reputation score on US news and is ranked 69. While ND is ranked 322. The global rankings are academic/research only rankings.

Academic reputation score fluctuates a bit every year. ND was higher in 2023.
https://publicuniversityhonors.com/tag/us-news-academic-reputation-rankings/
Nobody cares about graduate ranking here.
ND has been a solid T20 forever. Emory not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too many think there kids are Top10 level, especially those who happen to have went to a T10 20-30 years ago. The admissions standard today is no the same and T25s are the same level today as T10s many years ago. If you apply ED to Emory for any reason than its not a backup, either you love it or you dont think you can do better either way not a backup. If you RD to Emory its still not a back up as its a 5% acceptance rate, with a 1540 SAT avg. Only students who Reach Emory Scholars finals are can consider Emory a backup and thats only 100ish students a year.

Correction: the most recent CDS has 1540 as the 75th percentile SAT, with 1510 as the median. And over a third of the class is test optional. And that’s not counting the kids at Oxford. So the “admissions standard” isn’t as high as PP would like you to believe.

I’m not saying Emory is anyone’s backup, because they take most of their class in ED. But that’s exactly why Emory isn’t really on the radar in the DMV: if you’re a high-stats student, Emory isn’t aspirational enough to justify an ED, and the odds of admission are too low to justify an RD. They also waitlist a lot of kids which, given the rest of the profile, makes me suspect they use the waitlist for yield protection.

They take a little over 50% ED (total
For I and II)which is basically the same as all top 20 ED schools.

And which of the top 20 ED schools would you consider a backup? That’s my point, that they take so many kids in ED (and so many TO) that a high stats kid would be a fool to treat them as a backup in RD.

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford stats are almost the same as Emory stats. Many at Oxford have 1500+ SAT’s and the RD admit rate for Oxford alone is still below 20%

Which is overall similar to the schools like NYU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and USC.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is the Northeastern of the South

wonderful schools, just tough for kids to get excited about them

Almost certain this is the same person replying to the thread constantly.
Emory has 36k applicants
Its peer schools are Rice, Vanderbilt, CMU, WashU, Nortre Dame, and Georgetown.
Emory has more applicants than all except Vanderbilt. Emory is Niche for who it attracts. If you want a pre professional city school its your top choice.

Highly doubt that anyone turns down Notre Dame for Emory. Replace Notre Dame with Johns Hopkins.

Emory generates lots of ED applications due to its major scholarship (Emory Scholars if I recall correctly).

I would definitely strongly consider Emory over ND. Academics are roughly equivalent. Adjacent to big city vs. middle of nowhere. Diverse student body vs. very homogeneous. I'm not saying this to knock ND - incredible school. But Emory has some positive differentiating factors.

Emory is definitely considered better academically. ND is ranked higher for other reasons.

LOL no.

Yes, Emory has 4.2 reputation score on US news and is ranked 69. While ND is ranked 322. The global rankings are academic/research only rankings.

Academic reputation score fluctuates a bit every year. ND was higher in 2023.
https://publicuniversityhonors.com/tag/us-news-academic-reputation-rankings/
Nobody cares about graduate ranking here.
ND has been a solid T20 forever. Emory not.

ND has 17 billion dollars it obviously has a slightly leg up. That leg up has nothing to do with academic reputation. You can even look at grad school placement and see Emory students place better into elite grad school than ND... why because it's academically better and yes we do care about global rankings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford stats are almost the same as Emory stats. Many at Oxford have 1500+ SAT’s and the RD admit rate for Oxford alone is still below 20%

Which is overall similar to the schools like NYU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and USC.

Oxford College is still better than those as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many think there kids are Top10 level, especially those who happen to have went to a T10 20-30 years ago. The admissions standard today is no the same and T25s are the same level today as T10s many years ago. If you apply ED to Emory for any reason than its not a backup, either you love it or you dont think you can do better either way not a backup. If you RD to Emory its still not a back up as its a 5% acceptance rate, with a 1540 SAT avg. Only students who Reach Emory Scholars finals are can consider Emory a backup and thats only 100ish students a year.

Correction: the most recent CDS has 1540 as the 75th percentile SAT, with 1510 as the median. And over a third of the class is test optional. And that’s not counting the kids at Oxford. So the “admissions standard” isn’t as high as PP would like you to believe.

I’m not saying Emory is anyone’s backup, because they take most of their class in ED. But that’s exactly why Emory isn’t really on the radar in the DMV: if you’re a high-stats student, Emory isn’t aspirational enough to justify an ED, and the odds of admission are too low to justify an RD. They also waitlist a lot of kids which, given the rest of the profile, makes me suspect they use the waitlist for yield protection.

They take a little over 50% ED (total
For I and II)which is basically the same as all top 20 ED schools.

And which of the top 20 ED schools would you consider a backup? That’s my point, that they take so many kids in ED (and so many TO) that a high stats kid would be a fool to treat them as a backup in RD.

WashU, ND, Vanderbilt have more TO students are they backups?

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If Emory was in the Northeast, it might be more popular than it is now. Many people refuse to consider anything south of Virginia or west of Pittsburgh.

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford stats are almost the same as Emory stats. Many at Oxford have 1500+ SAT’s and the RD admit rate for Oxford alone is still below 20%

Which is overall similar to the schools like NYU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern, Wake Forest, and USC.

Oxford College is still better than those as well.

Only in your imaginary world.

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Anonymous wrote:Too many think there kids are Top10 level, especially those who happen to have went to a T10 20-30 years ago. The admissions standard today is no the same and T25s are the same level today as T10s many years ago. If you apply ED to Emory for any reason than its not a backup, either you love it or you dont think you can do better either way not a backup. If you RD to Emory its still not a back up as its a 5% acceptance rate, with a 1540 SAT avg. Only students who Reach Emory Scholars finals are can consider Emory a backup and thats only 100ish students a year.

Correction: the most recent CDS has 1540 as the 75th percentile SAT, with 1510 as the median. And over a third of the class is test optional. And that’s not counting the kids at Oxford. So the “admissions standard” isn’t as high as PP would like you to believe.

I’m not saying Emory is anyone’s backup, because they take most of their class in ED. But that’s exactly why Emory isn’t really on the radar in the DMV: if you’re a high-stats student, Emory isn’t aspirational enough to justify an ED, and the odds of admission are too low to justify an RD. They also waitlist a lot of kids which, given the rest of the profile, makes me suspect they use the waitlist for yield protection.

The CDS is from last year. The 1540 avg was from the Emory Admitted students day conference several weeks ago. They also said over 80% submitted test scores. If Emory isnt aspirational enough AND TOO selective, then why do so many top students apply? You sound dumb.

Of course Emory has better stats for admitted students (which is what they are talking about at admitted students day) than enrolled students (a group that won’t be finalized until fall). Every school does. The strongest admitted students are the hardest to yield.

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Anonymous wrote:If Emory was in the Northeast, it might be more popular than it is now. Many people refuse to consider anything south of Virginia or west of Pittsburgh.

Or it could've been the opposite. Emory's success is perhaps because it's in the South, with much less competition. It's a total moot point to imagine anything.